hgh sides

[2jz_calgary]

So im just reaserching hgh and still learning everyday. Are unwanted growth side effects such as bone growth, cartilage growth, organs, ect only associated with higher doses of hgh? Is it more how one reacts to the hormone? Any insight would be helpfull.

[Kale]

So im just reaserching hgh and still learning everyday. Are unwanted growth side effects such as bone growth, cartilage growth, organs, ect only associated with higher doses of hgh? Is it more how one reacts to the hormone? Any insight would be helpfull.

Yes those sides are related to doses upwards of 15 IU's a day. The sides you have to worry about are Carpel Tunnel syndrome. It fvcking kicked my ass at 6 IU and I had to go off it, I am an unusual case though.

[Big GB4]

also considering/researching hgh, anyone else out there feel like sharing side effects?

[ScotchGuard]

I work on the computer all day. The HGH really inflamed the carpal tunnel syndrome in my wrists. I had to go take a steroid into my wrists. That's my only negative sides. I've had great results with HGH. Better fat control, more energy, better skin (my skin got messed up with my sustanon cycle and acne but coming back), and a better ability to concentrate for prolonged periods of time on complex problems.

[JinNtonic]

^^^ How much were you running?

[ScotchGuard]

I was on 5iu/ed. 2.5 in am and 2.5 in pm.

[2jz_calgary]

i am mostly interested in its health benefits, and may run it along side a steroid cycle and pct, but was thinking of a dosage starting at 2 iu or less and ramping up to perhaps 3 or 4, nothning majour.

[2jz_calgary]

oh and what about hgh use and that whole cancer cell thing? Is that part of unwanted cell reproduction? I know anabolic effects are associated with higher dosages of hgh. Is the cancer thing a scare tactic? Or a side some experience? Ive never seen any proof of anyone using hgh and developing any form of cancer.

[ScotchGuard]

I'm 50 and I have experienced great health benefits from HGH use. I've always been healthy and been working out a long time so I've always felt fine. When I started taking HGH I got leaner, felt more energetic, my skin got so much nicer, and for me the best thing was that my memory and mental acuity got better.

If you're a healthy male you can start at 3iu/ed and go up 1iu every 7 to 10 days. I like 5iu/ed. It is a good balance for me. This could be different based on the quality of your HGH and your body's own response to HGH. Either way you're going to love it.

As for HGH and cancer? Tumor/cancer cells grow quickly because of their internally generated IGF like secretions. It's like growing muscles but on steroids . LOL, that came out funny. HGH converts to IGF in the body so the conclusion that HGH causes cancer/tumor cells to grow out of control. I've never read anything definitive on this subject either for or against. I do know that a tumor/cancer cell generated their own IGF internally but there's no definitive study that says that HGH use promotes the generation of IGF internally to the cancer/tumor. If the IGF is being created outside of the tumor/cancer again, there is no definitive study that I've read that says IGF outside the tumor/cancer cell causes it to grow any faster.

I would really be interested to find out if anyone has read something in this area. I'm all about learning.

[2jz_calgary]

yes i would like to hear anything anybody knows or has read on the subject.

[elpropiotorvic]

Let me see if I can pull something out

[2jz_calgary]

awesome thanks everyone

[Roidbeginner]

Endocr Rev. 2009 Feb;30(1):51-74. Epub 2008 Dec 15.
Growth hormone and insulin -like growth factor-I in the transition from normal mammary development to preneoplastic mammary lesions.
Kleinberg DL, Wood TL, Furth PA, Lee AV.

Neuroendocrine Unit, Department of Medicine, New York University School of Medicine, 550 First Avenue, New York, New York 10016, USA. [email protected]
Adult female mammary development starts at puberty and is controlled by tightly regulated cross-talk between a group of hormones and growth factors. Although estrogen is the initial driving force and is joined by luteal phase progesterone, both of these hormones require GH-induced IGF-I in the mammary gland in order to act. The same group of hormones, when experimentally perturbed, can lead to development of hyperplastic lesions and increase the chances, or be precursors, of mammary carcinoma. For example, systemic administration of GH or IGF-I causes mammary hyperplasia, and overproduction of IGF-I in transgenic animals can cause the development of usual or atypical hyperplasias and sometimes carcinoma. Although studies have clearly demonstrated the transforming potential of both GH and IGF-I receptor in cell culture and in animals, debate remains as to whether their main role is actually instructive or permissive in progression to cancer in vivo. Genetic imprinting has been shown to occur in precursor lesions as early as atypical hyperplasia in women. Thus, the concept of progression from normal development to cancer through precursor lesions sensitive to hormones and growth factors discussed above is gaining support in humans as well as in animal models. Indeed, elevation of estrogen receptor, GH, IGF-I, and IGF-I receptor during progression suggests a role for these pathways in this process. New agents targeting the GH/IGF-I axis may provide a novel means to block formation and progression of precursor lesions to overt carcinoma. A novel somatostatin analog has recently been shown to prevent mammary development in rats via targeted IGF-I action inhibition at the mammary gland. Similarly, pegvisomant, a GH antagonist, and other IGF-I antagonists such as IGF binding proteins 1 and 5 also block mammary gland development. It is, therefore, possible that inhibition of IGF-I action, or perhaps GH, in the mammary gland may eventually play a role in breast cancer chemoprevention by preventing actions of both estrogen and progesterone, especially in women at extremely high risk for developing breast cancer such as BRCA gene 1 or 2 mutations.

[Roidbeginner]

In simple terms, HGH and IGF-1 can stimulate the normal cells to become cancerous-like. However, this has been largely confined to hormone-sensitive cancers like breast, prostate and pituitary adenoma.

[JimInAK]

For my direct and personal experience, HGH has stimulated MY normal cells to remain normal... This I have determined by observing MY skin and witnessing liver spots disappear and my skin become much more "normal".

The current "reefer madness" type of fear mongering used by government and industry to promote their solutions, have made me question "their" truth and "their" ethics, when they produce studies to support "their" position. The justification for laws against steroid use illustrate a perfect case study for the application of lies and exaggerations to support a prohibitionist position.

This study claims: "It is, therefore, possible that inhibition of IGF-I action, or perhaps GH, in the mammary gland MAY..."

Which by my understanding of the English language can also mean that it "MAY NOT".

I resent the use of junk science to support prohibitionist positions or to support expensive treatments, particularly when natural solutions and preventative measures are then dismissed.

Maybe it does... Means the same as maybe it doesn't.

[2jz_calgary]

interesting. I have a friend who is a doctor she says that hgh will stimulate cells that are not meant to be stimulated after puberty. However this is dosage dependant, and she mentioned it hard to figure out what that dosage is for each individual. So im wondering if its safe to run a lower dose? I have a feeling there is still much to learn and understand about hgh.

[ScotchGuard]

Synthetic HGH has been used since the 1980's. So it's been around for a while. It's treated many growth deficient children during that time. I'm also assuming there was use by adults at that time. If synthetic HGH causes cancer/tumor/abnormality in healthy tissue wouldn't someone/anyone sound the alarm?

[2jz_calgary]

im not sayin it will for sure however the potential is possibly there. im not tryin to scare anyone just bring up some info that ive heard.