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Simple question.
I read about running Test E and HGH together, but running the GH first for 6 weeks before starting the Test.
What happens if you run Test E first and add the GH to the cycle after about 2-3 weeks?
I plan on test E @250mg ew for 4 weeks and then up to 500mg ew.
Gh @ 2IUs ed and work up to 4IUs ed.
No one has any opinions on my question?
Is it that stupid a question guys?
I want to start the Test E first and then include the GH when I get it in about 3 weeks.
Any opinions on that ?
Most people will tell you to start you gh first since it takes longer to kick in.
Read my post about first time hgh use. My questions were similar.
HGH is at least a 6 month cycle. I don't think it really matters if you run HGH before, during or after the cycle. If it was me, I'd run HGH for a couple of months before I run the AAS.
There was a very interesting study done and is published in an Australian Endocrinology Journal about the combo of using test and hGH. They studied 100 amateur athletes 33% took hGh, 33% took test & hGH, 33% took Placebo. The results were very clear that taking the combo at the same time made for much larger gains for the casual athlete. These are published medical studies.
I am taking a combination of the two - at low doses compared to what I read on here. But I am really happy with the results so far.
The Test E should be about 500mg/ed for 12 weeks. Any reason why you're ramping the Test?
Did ya mean 500mg/ew?Quote:
Originally Posted by ScotchGuard
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Originally Posted by ScotchGuard
i know this is a common thing that gets tossed around here. but i really dont agree with it. ive ran GH for 1 month before, and seen good results from it. obviously id see even better results running it for longer, but the way people talk is like anything less than 6 months is useless. which just isnt the case. the same thing as people saying you NEED 500mg test ew.
OP, the reason people say to start the test after running GH for awhile. is because you will create new muscle tissue from the GH. so if you start the test after that happens, the test will aide in growing that new muscle much quicker than you would naturally. but by running the test first, you dont take advantage of that.
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Originally Posted by ScotchGuard
This right here though, is what i would do too.
yeah, the more reading i do the more I see the advantages of running Gh first and then cycling in the Test.
btw wrote wrong orig. i will be taking 500mg/pw TEst for 12 weeks.
Someguy, how many IU's/d were you running?Quote:
Originally Posted by Someguy123
Did you ramp up or right to top dose?
I presume 7 days/wk, not 5 on 2 off correct?
thx
the one time that i ran it for a month. i was doing 3.3iu/day. no ramping. 7 days aweek. i wouldve ran it longer, but i was broke back then, and could only afford one kit.Quote:
Originally Posted by shawno
now im running 6 months worth at the same dose.
and just to clarify, im not saying i reccomend a 1 month GH cycle. but it certainly isnt useless, as some people say. youre still able to create a bit of hyperplasia in one months time. but i imagine it becomes exponentially higher in the later months.
HGH
week 1-2 2ius ed
week 3-4 4ius ed
week 5-16 6 ius ed + 500 mg test enanthate/week
week 5-7 anadrol 50 mg ed.
week 17-18 4 ius ed + clomid 100/50 + nolvadex 40/40
week 19-20 2 ius ed + clomid 50/25 + nolvadex 20/20