hgh, slin for person with bad kidneys?

**G-Force** · 01-18-2010, 08:56 AM

hello

i have recently been told i have only 50% kidney function

obviously i cannot continue to use AAS but i was wondering if hgh or insulin (or MT2)
effect your kidneys and if they would be safe for me?

**ScotchGuard** · 01-18-2010, 03:27 PM

Dang, sorry about your kidneys. Check out the following patent application 6153581, it seems that HGH is a key ingredient in the treatment of renal function.

"Presently, human growth hormone (referred to hereinafter as hGH) is used to treat pituitary dwarfism. In addition, it is also reported to be useful in acceleration of healing of bone fracture and burn wound, as well as in the treatment of patients of malnutrition (94/95 Nikkei Baio Nenkan). According to the following papers, hGH has been examined for its improving effect on the growth failure of short children having renal failure and also administrated to adult patients having renal failure. However, the papers only demonstrate the ameliorating effect of hGH on the malnourished conditions of patients who are undergoing dialysis, i.e., who have lost their renal functions."

**DCannon** · 01-18-2010, 09:03 PM

Check your PM's G-Force.

**G-Force** · 01-19-2010, 06:33 AM

got the pm DC thanks

ok so it seems hgh is safe for someone in my condition and even beneficial
how about slin and melonatan 2? - i am pretty sure these dont affect your kidneys but i wanted to be certain before i started

**DCannon** · 01-19-2010, 01:02 PM

When it comes to slin, as kidney function gets worse, you need less of a dose to control blood sugar because less of it is getting removed by your kidneys.

**Hazard** · 01-19-2010, 02:04 PM

without trying to get too personal..... is the kidney issue related to aas use?

~Haz~

**redz** · 01-19-2010, 02:17 PM

without trying to get too personal..... is the kidney issue related to aas use?

~Haz~

I recall him posting up about his cycles, I`m thinking it must have atleast been a contributing factor but hey I could be wrong.

**G-Force** · 01-19-2010, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by Hazard

without trying to get too personal..... is the kidney issue related to aas use?

~Haz~

yes but only indirectly

i have been cycling on and off for 5 years and the last two years i was on cycle non stop (blast and cruise)
i always got my blood work done regularly and everything was always fine, including kidneys
the only thing that was out was my blood pressure so i was put on lisiniprol to lower my blood pressure which affected my kidneys big time

as well as this - i came off the AAS due to a back problem (while still taking the lisiniprol) , and i couldnt even train anymore- i lost 14kg (30+ lbs) in 2 months - the doctor said my kidneys were filtering out muscle waste at an alarming rate and my kidneys didnt like it one bit

added into the fact that i hit the bottle and became an alcoholic for 2 months because i felt sorry for myself cos i couldnt train anymore

anyway i am back in the gym this week - i am off the booze and the AAS
but wanted to use slin and hgh to try and stop losing anymore weight

**Hazard** · 01-19-2010, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by G-Force

yes but only indirectly

i have been cycling on and off for 5 years and the last two years i was on cycle non stop (blast and cruise)
i always got my blood work done regularly and everything was always fine, including kidneys
the only thing that was out was my blood pressure so i was put on lisiniprol to lower my blood pressure which affected my kidneys big time

as well as this - i came off the AAS due to a back problem (while still taking the lisiniprol) , and i couldnt even train anymore- i lost 14kg (30+ lbs) in 2 months - the doctor said my kidneys were filtering out muscle waste at an alarming rate and my kidneys didnt like it one bit

added into the fact that i hit the bottle and became an alcoholic for 2 months because i felt sorry for myself cos i couldnt train anymore

anyway i am back in the gym this week - i am off the booze and the AAS
but wanted to use slin and hgh to try and stop losing anymore weight

Thanks man - exactly what I wanted to know. Sorry to hear about your situation..... keep working at it man..... now that you're back training hopefully you'll start feeling better.

~Haz~

**DCannon** · 01-19-2010, 08:51 PM

Are you still on the Lisiniprol?

Take care of yourself buddy, believe me you wouldn't wish renal failure on you worst enemy. Do your best to not let it get to that.

**XLCanadian** · 01-20-2010, 11:10 AM

Yeah man...good luck. Best thing to do is get off the bottle.

I injured both shoulders and an ankle in various "accidents". Couldn't train proper and did the same self desctructive shit. Just working my way back in the gym for a month now. Finally started training hard last week. Also taking GH and I feel great!

**G-Force** · 01-20-2010, 12:12 PM

hmm i dont feel great
my blood pressure is still high and i get dizzy just cycling 10 mins to the gym

no DC i am not on the lisiniprol anymore
the doc told me to get off

i am taking hawthorne berry for the blood pressure but doesnt seem to help

what about Melonotan 2? does that effect your kidneys?

**DCannon** · 01-20-2010, 12:25 PM

I'm not sure about the MT2 and how it would effect your kidneys.

I don't get why you'd be worried about your tan when your risking kidney failure anyways? You do get that kidney failure will ruin your life as you know it right?

**Hazard** · 01-20-2010, 02:59 PM

Try adding Coq10 and garlic for your blood pressure.....

~Haz~

**G-Force** · 01-21-2010, 08:43 AM

Originally Posted by DCannon

I'm not sure about the MT2 and how it would effect your kidneys.

I don't get why you'd be worried about your tan when your risking kidney failure anyways? You do get that kidney failure will ruin your life as you know it right?

fair point

i suppose its just cos i have let myself go so much in the past months
i am just trying to look half decent again

but your right there is no point risking it

**DCannon** · 01-21-2010, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by G-Force

fair point

i suppose its just cos i have let myself go so much in the past months
i am just trying to look half decent again

but your right there is no point risking it

I wasn't trying to be a dick, it's just I know first hand what it's like to be on dialysis.

Once you get back to 100% kidney function you'll have no problem getting yourself back in shape. For now though, focus on your health man, you only get one body.