1st Cycle Yellow Top

**IGot80HD** · 01-22-2010, 12:25 PM

25 yrs old
170lbs
5'9"

Started my first cycle of the yellow top somatropins.

Taking 3.3 IU a day 7 days in the AM. Going on my 2nd week

Side effects thus far: Gas, knee joints are sore, and a little acne.

Looking to run this for about 4 weeks then start test e at 250 mg/ew while staying on the gh. Run the test for about 4 months. Continue use of gh for at least 2 mos after that.

I have proper PCT lined up for the test.

Any opinion on the amount of test ill be using? its low compared to what most people are on but i dont want to get too big too fast and have people questioning me.

Any ideas or recs?

Also Ive been reading on here about medical studies about using test on hgh is the best combo but there is never a link to the article. anyone have any links to the tests?

thanks in advance!!

**IGot80HD** · 01-25-2010, 01:20 PM

No one has ANYTHING?

i guess ive already read up enough . . . i was just looking to be reassured about my decision.

***D7M*** · 01-25-2010, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by IGot80HD

25 yrs old
170lbs
5'9"

Started my first cycle of the yellow top somatropins.

Taking 3.3 IU a day 7 days in the AM. Going on my 2nd week Are you planning on raising your dose when you start your AAS cycle?

Side effects thus far: Gas, knee joints are sore, and a little acne.

Looking to run this for about 4 weeks then start test e at 250 mg/ew while staying on the gh. Run the test for about 4 months. Continue use of gh for at least 2 mos after that. I'd run the GH for more than 4 weeks before starting the test. At least 8 weeks.And yes, raise that test dose. You won't see much growth at that dose.

I have proper PCT lined up for the test. What is it?

Any opinion on the amount of test ill be using? its low compared to what most people are on but i dont want to get too big too fast and have people questioning me.

Any ideas or recs?

Also Ive been reading on here about medical studies about using test on hgh is the best combo but there is never a link to the article. anyone have any links to the tests? don't know if I can find you any scientific studies, but you can ask the 100's of guys on here and other boards who swear by test/GH.

thanks in advance!!

^^bolds above.

also, what's your body fat?

**IGot80HD** · 01-25-2010, 01:44 PM

I plan on staying on the 3.3 as i cant really afford to go higher. 1 box = 1 month. thats why its oddly dosed at 3.3 ;-)

nolva 25mg ed starting 2 weeks after test cycle being done. have EASY access to clomid, nolva, and HCG . If i experience any gyno while on i plan on doing 20 mg nolva a day until itching/swelling subsides.

unsure of my body fat % but ill post some pics on here soon and ask other members what they think and get back to you.

but id assume its under 20%

and thanks for replying!

**IGot80HD** · 01-25-2010, 01:47 PM

also, you think i should do test e 500mg a week? split it into two mon and thurs?

i think ill wait 6 weeks in then start.

i know the HGH is working because my ribs which i injured over 1.5 years ago healed a week into the cycle . . . and the doctor only said time will heal them psshhh

***D7M*** · 01-25-2010, 01:58 PM

I don't think you'll see much of anything from 3.3iu's at your age...sorry to break the news to you, bro.

Sure, post a pic that would help.

I would add another SERM to your pct, something like this:
clomid 100/50/50/50
nolva 40/20/20/20

I'm not saying you have to do 500mg/wk, 400-600mg/wk is a good range for a first cycle.

**IGot80HD** · 01-25-2010, 02:17 PM

should i mix it up to 4 IU a day; 5 on 2 off?

i have noticed my ribs healing . . . so either way i will keep up with this until i think theyve healed enough to old their own.

i have no prob upping the dosage on the test. i can get a 16 week supply at less than half the cost of my hgh.

**ScotchGuard** · 01-25-2010, 06:20 PM

Normally for the first cycle, Test E 500mg/wk 12wks. HGH's really an option. At your age I don't think you're going to see much difference at 3.3iu/ed. You'll see a big difference with 500mg/wk of Test E.

**IGot80HD** · 01-26-2010, 11:49 AM

molested by a man with calipers yesterday. 7 area test gave a little over 19%. hopefully adding 16 weeks of test will lean me out to 15% or less.

**alextg** · 01-26-2010, 12:43 PM

At 5"9 and 170lbs in about 20% bf , i think u need to learn how to eat and diet rather getting gh or test ... too much fat for test in my opinion.Be careful for gyno.

**IGot80HD** · 01-26-2010, 12:53 PM

yea holiday binge im STILL working on shaking :-( . . . i was in at 160 a week before xmas.

at 20% am i more susceptable (sp?) to gyno while on test?

and the diet i have in check generally. ive made it from 190-200 down to 150. So i can cut and bulk appropriately. Maybe ill hit the cardio hard for the next month prior to jumping on the test.

**IGot80HD** · 01-26-2010, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by IGot80HD

at 20% am i more susceptable (sp?) to gyno while on test?

nvm i read up on the site and answered that myself. . . ill kick up the cardio and tinker the diet to lose some fat in the next month. will still have gyno meds handy when starting in case it does kick in