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    T4 With HGH, Do i need to cycle the T4

    I just bought 400IU of ********** And T4 (L-Thyroxin)100 tabs@100mcg ,Might order more . I have been researching this and only found 1 thread where one guy said he dosnt cycle he stays on T4 through the hgh cycle 7on at 100mcg.
    Im going to work my way up to 4IU 5on 2off for 6 months or more.

    What do u think about using T4 with no off period through a hgh cycle at that dosage(4IU 5on 2off). And what dosage of T4 would u recommend I use.

    I just had blood work done and everything came back fine ,including my thyroid,test levels,liver,and so forth.

    Any info Appreciated.

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    i would take it 100% 100mcg ed.

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    I've got GH on the way and I asked my Doctor who is big into anti aging with hormones about taking T4 with GH and he said it wasn't necessary and I asked why?...and he said because the thyroid is more sensitive and doesn't always come back to normal as quickly as your GH levels would when ceasing your GH cycle. He said that messing with my thyroid was another ball game altogether.

    He said just stick with the GH if my thyroid levels are good...and they are.

    There is my 2 cents worth.

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    HGH and ur thyroid

    From what i read hgh lower's ur T4 levels and speeds up the conversion of T4 to T3 , but without blood work or whateverr test is used to check thyroid levels , u dont know how low ur T4 production is while on hgh . But i do know it lowers ur T4 levels.
    So what im wondering if i could just take a small dose of T4 (mybe 50mcg or lower) through out my whole cycle of hgh to supplement the lower T4 levels.

    I dont want to suppress my thyroid function to an extent that it want function normally(recover) after i discountinue the use of T4

    I dont know a doctor thats willing to monitor my thyroid through a hgh cycle ,
    thats where im at.

    Appreciate the help
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    turst me man, big wrote a huge thing up on this stating that you neeed to run t4 100mcg-120mcg ed.

    Its like taking trt dose of test. I took it for 6 months and had no problems at all when i got off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBP-27 View Post
    From what i read hgh lower's ur T4 levels and speeds up the conversion of T4 to T3 , but without blood work or whateverr test is used to check thyroid levels , u dont know how low ur T4 production is while on hgh . But i do know it lowers ur T4 levels.
    So what im wondering if i could just take a small dose of T4 (mybe 50mcg or lower) through out my whole cycle of hgh to supplement the lower T4 levels.

    I dont want to suppress my thyroid function to an extent that it want function normally(recover) after i discountinue the use of T4

    I dont know a doctor thats willing to monitor my thyroid through a hgh cycle ,
    thats where im at.

    Appreciate the help
    I would try to find a doctor who is into anti-aging and prescribing hormones...hopefully there is one in your area because that is probably about the only kind of Doc you are going to find to monitor any aspect of your hormonal functions let alone T4.

    Other than that..it's up to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjpennnn View Post
    turst me man, big wrote a huge thing up on this stating that you neeed to run t4 100mcg-120mcg ed.

    Its like taking trt dose of test. I took it for 6 months and had no problems at all when i got off.
    I have read alot of big's posts(threads), I trust what ur saying. Thats what i will do. Appreciate the info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fossilfuel7 View Post
    I would try to find a doctor who is into anti-aging and prescribing hormones...hopefully there is one in your area because that is probably about the only kind of Doc you are going to find to monitor any aspect of your hormonal functions let alone T4.

    Other than that..it's up to you.
    Appreciate the info, I will see if i cant find a doctor in my area willing to monitor my thyroid . But im going to goahead with the cycle till then.

    THANKS

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjpennnn View Post
    turst me man, big wrote a huge thing up on this stating that you neeed to run t4 100mcg-120mcg ed.

    Its like taking trt dose of test. I took it for 6 months and had no problems at all when i got off.
    One more question, Im taking first injection at 8:00 A.m 2nd At 1:00 P.M Due to work schedule. What's the best time of day to take T4, Im going to gradually raise the T4 dose(while on cycle) ,and gradually lower when coming off cycle.

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    HGH effects your T4 by lowering it so I would defenitely take it if you have it on hand, no need to take a 100mcg, start with 50mcg then you may increase later down the track, but 50mcg daily is just fine. I have taken 50mcg daily for 9 months straight with no breaks and didn't have any problems, but, that's just me. I can't say you will react same way. It's all trial and error.

    A higher thyroid response is seen at night when taking T4 VS during the day/morning so I suggest you take T4 at night time if you want maximum benefits from it.

    Good luck!

    -Gear

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gear View Post
    HGH effects your T4 by lowering it so I would defenitely take it if you have it on hand, no need to take a 100mcg, start with 50mcg then you may increase later down the track, but 50mcg daily is just fine. I have taken 50mcg daily for 9 months straight with no breaks and didn't have any problems, but, that's just me. I can't say you will react same way. It's all trial and error.

    A higher thyroid response is seen at night when taking T4 VS during the day/morning so I suggest you take T4 at night time if you want maximum benefits from it.

    Good luck!

    -Gear
    Ok ,

    Thanks

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    It's best to take it on an empty stomach as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCannon View Post
    It's best to take it on an empty stomach as well.
    Ok , Thanks.
    I got to order some needles, so i can start this cycle. I strained my back bad at work and doing dead lifts, i hope this heals me up quicker. If my job finds out they want let me work tell im released by a doctor. Im a trailer mechanic for FEDEX *********, I use my back a lot at work.

    They only do urine tests(drug screens) ,hgh want show up in that.
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