Need some advice on HGH/Test Cycle

**cybrspidey** · 03-11-2010, 02:05 PM

OK... so I have been doing some research, and I keep getting mixed responses. I have found a supplier that I can trust and I ran it by them what I wanted to do. I would appreciate all of you guys opinions as well. Also, please note, I used to be in great shape, but I sustained a very serious right leg injury which has caused me to jump up 62lbs and some serious BF. I can no longer run, but I can do spin and swimming.

Me:
5'11"
240 lbs
41% BF
30yrs old

Goal:
190 lbs
Less than 18% BF

I had considered doing 4-6iu's 5on2off of HGH and 350mg Test per week. However, my supplier recommended me doing the following:

500mg test week
2-300mg tren
350mg oral stanz/week
3-4 t/3 tabs per day.

What do you guys think?? Also, with that much Test, shouldn't I be running an anti-e with it?

Thanks for any and all help!

**Exilus** · 03-11-2010, 02:45 PM

with such a high BF, you will definitely need a lot of anti-e. Fat increases estrogen receptors if i remember correctly.

**matt77** · 03-11-2010, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by cybrspidey

OK... so I have been doing some research, and I keep getting mixed responses. I have found a supplier that I can trust and I ran it by them what I wanted to do. I would appreciate all of you guys opinions as well. Also, please note, I used to be in great shape, but I sustained a very serious right leg injury which has caused me to jump up 62lbs and some serious BF. I can no longer run, but I can do spin and swimming.

Me:
5'11"
240 lbs
41% BF
30yrs old

Goal:
190 lbs
Less than 18% BF

I had considered doing 4-6iu's 5on2off of HGH and 350mg Test per week. However, my supplier recommended me doing the following:

500mg test week
2-300mg tren
350mg oral stanz/week
3-4 t/3 tabs per day.
What do you guys think?? Also, with that much Test, shouldn't I be running an anti-e with it?

Thanks for any and all help!

Throw this out the window! Your BF is way to high to messing with any AAS. If you do your asking for it. Have you ever done a cycle of AAS before? If not def. don't do that!

The GH might be a good idea though. Just start that at 2iu/ED for a few weeks then bump it to 4iu/ED. It should help your body get itself going again and help you lean out.

I am have been going through a simular situation as yours. I am planning on starting GH soon to help with my recovery and maybe after 6 months of GH I will be ready for a simple cycle of test e.

You should be at a min. of 20% (really 16-17% IMO) before doing any AAS. I wish you luck!

**ScotchGuard** · 03-11-2010, 10:46 PM

If you want to run AAS you should be closer to 15% to minimize sides. I recommend you go on HGH, diet and training until you can get your body fat down. There's too many things that can go wrong if you go from the couch to the AAS.

**cybrspidey** · 03-11-2010, 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by ScotchGuard

If you want to run AAS you should be closer to 15% to minimize sides. I recommend you go on HGH, diet and training until you can get your body fat down. There's too many things that can go wrong if you go from the couch to the AAS.

My doctor is recommending that I do 2iu's then go to 4iu's after 2 or 3 weeks to give my body time to adjust. But, he is also recommending that I do at least 200mg of test per week. He is willing to write scripts, but my insurance won't cover the HGH. And the cost of pharm HGH is like 1200 bucks for 15mg vials, which is equivelant to like around 100 to 125iu's of the greens or blues. SO I am definately appreciating you all's feed back.

So, I should get the Hgh, plus the 1ml vials 200mg of Test. Should I also take an anti-e like Armidex as well? Do you think I should take more test per week?

Thank you guys so much for your help. I am even going to be doing before and after pics. I am going to run this cycle for 6 months.

**cybrspidey** · 03-11-2010, 11:27 PM

Also, just a quick question, what do you feel is the best anti-e? Armidex or Nolvadex ? Price isn't the issue. I just want what works best.

**cybrspidey** · 03-12-2010, 06:45 PM

Ok... after some research... I have decided to go with Aromasin . I am getting it in liquid form 25mg/ml.

Now, I have had several suggestions as far as amount to take.

1. 25mg ED 5on2off
2. 25mg ED
3. 25mg EoD or E3D
3. 12.5mg ED
3. 12.5 mg EoD

You guys help would be greatly appreciated. Also, it was suggested to take with a shot of grapefruit and a fatty meal. This info up to par?

Thanks!