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    Gear and exp vets please help

    Stats: 3 years competing, done about everything from slin to var
    Start: 195 about 12%bf

    Test E: 1000mgs weeks 1-16
    Deca : 600mgs weeks 1-10
    Tren A: 450mgs weeks 6-16
    Adex: 1mg EOD weeks 1-16
    HGH: 10ius 5/2 straight through for about 9 months


    A few of the guys here suggested I add slin to this. What do you think? I'm trying to stay around 7-8%bf at least till september (have a few shoots coming up).
    Any protocol to take slin and remain hard?

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    mate if ur using slin, avoid fats 2 hours prior to application, then for 4 hours after (provided ur using short acting slin ie humalog)

    this should keep u lean...

    will ur HGH be taken in the AM ?

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    yes im using humalog, i was thinking of taking the hgh 6iu in the AM and 4 iu during mid afternoon. dont want to take it all at once cause my joints might kill me. how many grams of carbs you think i can get away with per iu of slin? I'v gone as low as 7 grams per iu

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    that sounds good... do u wait 30 mins after HGH shot before eating???


    hmm with the slin, just havea play... i know people have gone lower than 7 grams per IU... but its gonna be a personal thing.

    Will u use the slin pre or post workout ?

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    yea i wait roughly as long as it takes me to crack and cook a dozen eggs, so at least 20mins.
    The slin I will use post

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    Tren and deca is gonna be rough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerseyboy View Post
    Tren and deca is gonna be rough.
    I'v heard but no one has told me exactly why?

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    both shut u down pretty hard...

    but more importantly , they both cause prolactin related sides ... if u get prolactin or progesterone related gyno, nolva and adex wont be able to help

    i know u can use something for this but im not sure of the names ... bromo ? caber ?

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    10IU for 9 months should deliver some nice gains + you have plenty of AAS there so I believe you will be happy with the end result providing everything else is done the way it should be.

    Start your HGH a few months before adding AAS, this is the best way to combine HGH + AAS.

    As for insulin , add it if you got it on hand, otherwise I wouldn't worry about not using it.

    Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gear View Post
    10IU for 9 months should deliver some nice gains + you have plenty of AAS there so I believe you will be happy with the end result providing everything else is done the way it should be.

    Start your HGH a few months before adding AAS, this is the best way to combine HGH + AAS.

    As for insulin , add it if you got it on hand, otherwise I wouldn't worry about not using it.

    Good luck.

    -Gear
    Thanks Gear, long time no speak. I do have the slin on hand, any recommendations on the carb intake post slin to stay lean.
    Also, considering maybe switching up the deca with primo or eq. What you think?

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    Insulin can be dangerous to use if you are after staying lean, so I hope you know what you're doing. As for how much carbohydrates you need, well everybody seems to be different when it comes to that so it's something you will need to experiment with before adding it to a important cycle such as this one.

    As for your AAS setup, there are so many different ways you can run AAS and so many different compounds you can use, so I'll give this one a "bump" and see what others have to say, but personally, I'd stick with what you currently have laid out.

    All the best.

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    Thanks bro, the popular choice has been primo or mast. I really dont see a problem since the deca and tren are only going to be ran together for 4 weeks. If I did switch it, I would probably run it the same times as the tren.

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