HGH Cycle

[Xtralarg]

okay will do

that means ill start sleeping a bit early cause i tend to sleep at 2 or 3 am sometimes


thanks

Ok well I will rephrase my advice then.....have yor HGH just a couple of hours before you get up...whatever time that is!

[babyface770]

Ok well I will rephrase my advice then.....have yor HGH just a couple of hours before you get up...whatever time that is!

thank you kind sir

i got my T4 pills and im really excited although the coach tells me its a loss for me to start using the HGH now and i should get more muscle and "bulk up" then start using the HGH , akhh im so confused now from what you told me (and im following that) it almost clashes with everything he says but its just that his position(gym coach) makes me think twice

anyways its 2:20 am here im going to take my T4 pill now and sleep and wake up lets say at 7 am to take my shot. its really confusing to convert how many "clicks" i should have on the pen to get 2IU ,i did the net researching and i didnt find anything stable but i think 5 clicks is about 2IU


again thank you for walking me though the process

[babyface770]

i took my shot today morning of 0.6 ML converted to IU that would be roughly 2IU .. i didnt a feel a thing , i hope what i got is not fake HGH (pessimistic)

[Xtralarg]

i took my shot today morning of 0.6 ML converted to IU that would be roughly 2IU .. i didnt a feel a thing , i hope what i got is not fake HGH (pessimistic)

You shouldnt of felt a thing either, it should be painless. You may get some sides in a week or so, wait and see. Ive never seen fake hgh in a pen.....

[babyface770]

You shouldnt of felt a thing either, it should be painless. You may get some sides in a week or so, wait and see. Ive never seen fake hgh in a pen.....

thanks

im off to bed now , i have the alarm set to at dawn ,, ill wake up take the shot and go back to bed :$



will 4IU be enough for muscle growth or id have to up that ?


and im thinking of doing a pyramid shaped cycle what do you think ?

[babyface770]

i had my 3rd hit today , i just woke up 8(am) my left arm feels numb id like to think its for the HGH , really looking forward to this

[Xtralarg]

Well the numbness is a good sign!

You may have to go a little higher than 4iu for muscle, take it steady and see how you go.

With regards to the pyramid, you are going to taper up anyway but once you reach the reak you need to stay there for a while before you come off. Doctors who I have spoken to are of mixed opinion when it comes to tapering down, some say its a good idea and other dont so its really down to the individual. One thing you can do when you come off is to use either GHRP-6(available from AR-R ) or Hexarelin., both of them stimulate your body to produce more GH, think of them like PCT for HGH.

[babyface770]

Thanks again for walking me through the whole thing , I really feel safe !

So would going 5IU be good for muscle gain ??

I really wanna shed off the fat off me cause although I have a slim figure it depresses me when I see my small belly , so hopefully with the proper diet which I almost got perfect and cardio ill be there soon hopefully

[Xtralarg]

Just work your way up and you will find your level....5iu will defo shed the fat tho.

[Matt]

You may need to get upto 8ius before you see any significant muscle gains..

[babyface770]

8IU seems a little too high but when I reach 8IU how long do I stay on 8IU for it to make significant effect on my body ?


I hit 3 times till now of 2IU and my body feels much bigger I'm 79 KG's now , is my body reacting to the growth or its so soon for any effect or is it the testestrone (week 7 ) just had a boom in my body ? my body and belly feel little bloated

[BJJ]

Continuous is obviously better but a lot of guys do a 5 on 2 off routine as it saves money, as you have said you can also do eod and this worked well for me when I did a very short heavy cycle a while ago. Like anything else you have to find what works best for you as everyone reacts in different ways.....

Whichever way you choose try to split your dose and have a shot early AM and one mid afternoon.

Also remember to take T4, I use 100mcg ed.

How many IU ed do you use with 100 mcg of l-thyroxine?

[Xtralarg]

8iu 5 on 2 off

[babyface770]

8iu 5 on 2 off

yeah im doing 5 on 2 off (but the 2 of are not after each other)im going up to 2.5IU today and ill keep increasing 1 IU per week till i reach 8 but when i do reach 8 how long do i stay before i start taking it down again ?

[Xtralarg]

yeah im doing 5 on 2 off (but the 2 of are not after each other)im going up to 2.5IU today and ill keep increasing 1 IU per week till i reach 8 but when i do reach 8 how long do i stay before i start taking it down again ?

Thats upto you...I dont ever plan on coming off.

[babyface770]

yeah but i mean how long should i stay on 8IU for it to actually make significant noticeable difference on my body as in give me muscle growth, cause anything less that 8 would prolly just shed the fat off my body ?

and what about my bloated belly ill take a picture in a while and show

[Xtralarg]

You should be thinking about 6 months minimim

[babyface770]

:
Weeks 1-4 = HGH 2 IU's one injection
Week 5 = HGH 2.5 IU's one injection
Week 6 = HGH 3.0 IU's split into two injections of 1.5 IU's each
Week 7 = HGH 3.5 IU's split into two injections of 1.75 IU's each
And so forth until you reach your desired dose 8IU

Is this a good plan or too slow the first 4 weeks ?

[Xtralarg]

:
Weeks 1-4 = HGH 2 IU's one injection
Week 5 = HGH 2.5 IU's one injection
Week 6 = HGH 3.0 IU's split into two injections of 1.5 IU's each
Week 7 = HGH 3.5 IU's split into two injections of 1.75 IU's each
And so forth until you reach your desired dose 8IU

Is this a good plan or too slow the first 4 weeks ?

Well thats Redbarons protocol and there is nothing wrong with it.
Personally I would rise quicker and guage it from how the sides were affecting me, as with most things though everyone is different and you will find your niche when you become familiar with the compound and what works for you. If you rise sooner and the sides are to much then pull back by 25% or until they go away then start to climb again at a slower pace.

[babyface770]

yeah i was reading around and found it


what do you should be done regarding the bloating?
i mean i thought it would make me look leaner.now its not that the bloating looks bad, but i look more buffed than ripped

[Xtralarg]

HGH bloat is a bit of a tricky thing to deal with, it is something that will go in time. If it gets to much then lower the dose a little and work back up again slowly.

[Matt]

HGH bloat is a bit of a tricky thing to deal with, it is something that will go in time. If it gets to much then lower the dose a little and work back up again slowly.

Could he not just run an ai along side it???

[Xtralarg]

Could he not just run an ai along side it???

You could but that would not deal with the bloat, it will rasie your igf-1 leves though which is good! Only use an AI if using test tho for obvious reasons.

HGH ramps up your ADH (anti diuretic hormone) and this is the main reason for the bloat, this can be controlled to a certain extent by adjusting your sodium intake. As I have previously said, your body will adjust in time and the bloat will go away.

[Matt]

^^ Thanks bro, some good info there...

[babyface770]

thanks guys , i freakin love you !!!

i had a hit today of 2.5IU i woke up after the hit in an hour or so with litttle numb hands . i was at the gym today and i sweat like a bit*h i dont know if it has to do with the HGH but i mean my tshirt was soaked in sweat

yeah thats my update for now , and i went back from 79 to 77 .lets see what happens next ..

im not liking my body so far i hope i see some results soon cause im training so hard and really intense workout sessions

[BJJ]

8iu 5 on 2 off

How many times per day do you pin in order to inject 8 iu?

[Xtralarg]

How many times per day do you pin in order to inject 8 iu?

Twice, am and pm.

[babyface770]

guys iv been calculating the 8IU if so that means id have to use 1 pen every 2 days and that is EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE. cause one pen costs me 130$ i mean i dont mind going 8IU for a period of 2 weeks or so but i don't think i can afford anymore

[marcus300]

guys iv been calculating the 8IU if so that means id have to use 1 pen every 2 days and that is EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE. cause one pen costs me 130$ i mean i dont mind going 8IU for a period of 2 weeks or so but i don't think i can afford anymore

You will need to run it longer than 2 wks if you want to see muscle growth, 6-8ius IMHO for a few months not weeks, get saving

[babyface770]

You will need to run it longer than 2 wks if you want to see muscle growth, 6-8ius IMHO for a few months not weeks, get saving

well im on 2.5 now and ill increase the dosage 1IU weekly till i reach 8 which will be in about maybe 2 months. i dont know if i can afford going 8 for like some time , i mean 6 is maybe acceptable going for 2 months then ill start taking it down again which will take me another 2 months and that would be almost a total of 6 months

i really dont know , i think its time to sell my kidney

[BJJ]

guys iv been calculating the 8IU if so that means id have to use 1 pen every 2 days and that is EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE. cause one pen costs me 130$ i mean i dont mind going 8IU for a period of 2 weeks or so but i don't think i can afford anymore

I do not know how you made your calculation but consider the following:

You get about 2.66 mg of somatropin each vial of 8 iu.

[babyface770]

I do not know how you made your calculation but consider the following:

You get about 2.66 mg of somatropin each vial of 8 iu.

yeah each pen contains 5 mg so thats two shots

[BJJ]

yeah each pen contains 5 mg so thats two shots

That would make two shots of almost 8 iu each all in once.
Too much, I would not go over 4 or 5 iu per injection, otherwise it will be wasted.

[babyface770]

That would make two shots of almost 8 iu each all in once.
Too much, I would not go over 4 or 5 iu per injection, otherwise it will be wasted.

yeah yeah i understand but what i mean is if i go 8IU the pen would last 2 days only ( 2 separate shots per day each containing 4IU) i dont think i can afford going 8IU for a long time... AT ALL

[BJJ]

yeah yeah i understand but what i mean is if i go 8IU the pen would last 2 days only ( 2 separate shots per day each containing 4IU) i dont think i can afford going 8IU for a long time... AT ALL

I understand you understand...

but as marcus pointed out previously, either you go for months on somatropin or otherwise do not even start.

[babyface770]

I understand you understand...

but as marcus pointed out previously, either you go for months on somatropin or otherwise do not even start.

6IU wont do anything to my muscle gain ?

[Xtralarg]

6IU wont do anything to my muscle gain ?

Nobody is saying it wont, generally though 6iu's is the minimum for what you want it to do........see how you go with 6iu

[BJJ]

6IU wont do anything to my muscle gain ?

Just go for it and see how you react.

[babyface770]

Yeah sounds good , ill go with 6 and see how it goes .. Regarding the numbness I don't feel it through out the day I only feel it after the shot in like 20-30 and it lasts for about also 30 mins and that's it

I do feel lazy during the day and that's about it

[Xtralarg]

Do you feel it at night when you are in bed?

When did you start taking it?