Interesting Lab results with chinese red tops, need opinions

[jbb4343]

Myself and 2 friends have been using some chinese red tops that we got from what we thought was a reputable source. About 3 weeks ago my one friend had some labs done. He is 43, normally test levels are about 350-400 for him, and while he was usign previously yellow top hgh, his igf was somewhere in the mid 300's. Well he decided to get checked on the red tops. His test levels were something like 687, and igf aroudn 150. Same 3iu dose that he was taking for 8-10 months. So this obviously thru a red flag here, and thought we could have gotten a bunch of HCG . So i did the home pregno test, and it actually tested negative for HCG. I then did a control test using actually HCG, and bingo, i had a baby on the way, jk... Anyway, so after this, i made an appointment with my friendly doctor to get my labs done. I get results tommorow. Now, the reason for my post. The 3rd person taking these red tops, is 37, currently on nothing else but 3iu of the red tops. He was at his normal doctor and had her test is test levels as a baseline for a future cycle and make sure he recovered from his cycle back in december. Well, what do you know, results are in today. His test levels are 1107, with normal range of 340-800. Unfortunately, no IGF test was done. Im hoping my IGF results will be in tommorow to get some more conclusive answers, but in the mean time, heres my question.

Besides HCG, WTF coule be causing everyone's test levels to be elevated so much. The Red tops are super vaccum sealed, and look like a quality product, but im doubting its HGH in there. Is there any other product that could disolve and look exactly like HGH once reconstitued, but elevate test levels?

[frawnz]

From reading some various articles about making your own steroids , I know that you can get steroids in powder form (and then generally mix it with oil and alcohol). So i guess it's possible that it's some sort of steroid in powder form. I also found this:

"17AA steroids : Oxandrolone, Anabol and Stanabol

You will need purified water, benzyl alcohol, syringes and a container that
holds 40 ml for every gram of powder you have. The water needs to be pure and
sterile because it will need to be injected. First fill up your container to the
desired level of water (40 ml per gram of powder) and make a mark. Then use the
syringe to remove 1 ml per gram of powder you have and make another mark. Let
the container dry. Dump the powder in the container and fill up with sterile
water up to the lowest mark. Then add benzyl alcohol to the highest mark. Seal
the container and shake well. The powder should sink to the bottom if left
unshaken. Make sure you shake prior to each use. I suggest using 2 ml DAILY
injections for a period of 8 weeks."


So it could be a possibility. Does the powder in the bottom hold it's shape (sort of like a cake)? What happens when you add your water to it? Does it immediately dissolve or do you have to roll it a bit to get the remnants to break up?

[jbb4343]

it reconsitutes like any of the kits ive used, blues or yellows, it does take a little bit of rolling to get it broken down.

If it is a powdered steroid , its not var or winny, as I beleive both of those tank your natty test levels (we know var for sure after BJJ cycle log), but in this case, with both of my friends, their Test levels are beyond what they should be.

So what other powder/oral type steroid would give abnormal test levels? Again, they def arent HCG since i did the pregno test.