Happy with your HGH results?

[J-Dogg]

The cost of HGH seems to be one of the things that make it less common to use, when compared to AAS.

After crunching the numbers though, my current stack:
100mgs Test P/Day
150mgs Mast P/Day
60mgs Tbol/Day
20mgs/nova

As far as "per week" cost, it's a little more expensive than the HGH.

So considering the HGH now. Wanted to start 4 IU's and go up from there, topping off at about 6-7 IU's.

I've been through about 6-8 cycles, consisting of a test base each time and EQ, Mast P, Winny or Tbol each time. I've tried Tren but respond bad to Progesterone.

Stats:
29 years
6'
202 lbs (lightest i've been in 18 months)
Sub 10% BF
13 years lifting experince
Diets in check, i eat very well

Goal.....
I'd like to put on a few lbs of muscle and develop lacking areas. I don't want to be huge. I just want to improve my physic. Right now, with a pump, I really feel I look ideal. I would like to add a little to my arms, a LOT to my calves and develop some small ab growth.

Would love to get any advice, tips or guidance from people with HGH experience, good OR bad.

[terraj]

Hey dogg,

No HGH experience here... but, I have read that you need to run it for at least 6 months to see the results. In which case the cost would be much higher then the cycle.

[BG]

I agree go with the AAS, but dont take this the wrong way but that many cycles and 200 lbs you should look into your diet. I know your not looking to be huge but you could be 210-215 with no juice and happy. Good luck.

[ScotchGuard]

HGH works slow but the gains seems to last longer. I've been on HGH for a couple of years 5iu/ed. I've cycled twice and the HGH keeps me lean. My goals with HGH isn't mass but overall fitness. The HGH is the best stuff I've every taken.

[Hazard]

I love my HGH results..... However I will say this..... they are very slow. It's a long term investment..... and if you're looking for muscle growth..... it's an even longer term investmant.

It's best combined with aas for muscle growth...... so the cost would exponentially grow lol

~Haz~

[J-Dogg]

I agree go with the AAS, but dont take this the wrong way but that many cycles and 200 lbs you should look into your diet. I know your not looking to be huge but you could be 210-215 with no juice and happy. Good luck.

No offense taken, and I understand your points.

A sub 10% bf and hard look at 200lbs is not possible for me with out AS.

I keep my diet in check, I've been around since 2001.

I don't lift to be a body builder, or power lifter. I run frequently so I'm sure i run off some mass, 4-8 miles 3-5 times a week.

With out the AS use, I'd be about 180lbs, and the 20lbs of muscle is HUGE on a low body fat frame.

I've been up to 225lbs, while on cycles in the winter. But it's just not the look for me.

Lean and hard, to achieve that hardness, I use AS in a responsible way.

As far the the HGH cost.

My 8 week cycle runs about 1k after taking into consideration PCT and everything.

The "per week" cost of HGH would be about the same.

I'd stay on cycles all year long, it's not the cost that prevents it, it's just getting the hormones back to a healthy level naturally between cycles.

[P3rf3ctionist]

I agree go with the AAS, but dont take this the wrong way but that many cycles and 200 lbs you should look into your diet. I know your not looking to be huge but you could be 210-215 with no juice and happy. Good luck.

I was just about to say the same thing, from your own admission you've done quite a few cycles yet you're barely over 200lbs, don't take it personally perhaps you need to look at your diet and training before cycling again.

As far hGH, personally I've been thrilled with my use of hGH began at 2IU's and currently at 4IU's, been using for the past 6ish weeks, and I've seen a 5% reduction in BF% so yeah its great but as your probably know it needs to be run for 25-30weeks for us to see its magic.

[taba]

If your just looking for that lean hard fitness look and can afford to do hgh for at least 6 months, I say go with it. I've been on for a year now. About 5 months in it started to really change my body composition. Stay on up to 4 ius to get lean. I started at a low bf% and I could visually see myself transform watching myself get leaner.

[NotSmall]

I was just about to say the same thing, from your own admission you've done quite a few cycles yet you're barely over 200lbs, don't take it personally perhaps you need to look at your diet and training before cycling again.

As far hGH, personally I've been thrilled with my use of hGH began at 2IU's and currently at 4IU's, been using for the past 6ish weeks, and I've seen a 5% reduction in BF% so yeah its great but as your probably know it needs to be run for 25-30weeks for us to see its magic.

You've seen a 5% reduction in bf from 6 weeks GH @ 2-4ius?

Seems pretty unlikely mate.

[Big]

You've seen a 5% reduction in bf from 6 weeks GH @ 2-4ius?

Seems pretty unlikely mate.

yeah I'd like to hear the details surrounding this.

[Big]

the main thing I have to say about GH from experience comes from some of my accidents. I've had some bad accidents when I used to cycle, and it seemed like a 6 week layup in the hospital would cost me most if not all of my gains. Once I started on GH for a year or so, even if I had an accident and was laid up, I retained far more mass than I did prior to GH. In short, the GH gains seem to be much more permanent, other factors being the same.

[P3rf3ctionist]

You've seen a 5% reduction in bf from 6 weeks GH @ 2-4ius?

Seems pretty unlikely mate.

Indeed so, I begun dieting around 12 days before starting the GH, within 2 week I went from a dose of 2ius up to a dose of 4ius as I found all the text book sides were tolerable and now that I'm in the seventh week. Now I don't attribute the complete figure of 5% solely to GH but it certainly has accelerated the reduction in BF combined with a strict diet where as now I stand -5% leaner.

[NotSmall]

Indeed so, I begun dieting around 12 days before starting the GH, within 2 week I went from a dose of 2ius up to a dose of 4ius as I found all the text book sides were tolerable and now that I'm in the seventh week. Now I don't attribute the complete figure of 5% solely to GH but it certainly has accelerated the reduction in BF combined with a strict diet where as now I stand -5% leaner.

What was your weight at the start and finish?

[gixxerboy1]

What was your weight at the start and finish?

i agree he would have to be very high bf to start