Chinese HGH concerns

[marcus300]

I find it hard to trust alot of the advice on these forums about fake gear or under-dosed gear. The forums are great to come on and get soem tips on diets, training regimes, stacks or even just how and when to take stuff but, there are too many dealers and pushers on here to trust when someone slags another source or brand or even a country off. They are fighting for our custom so it makes sense to slag off products that they don't sell themselves or put you off or even just make you doubt your own sources.
I think there probably is a load of fake stuff coming from China but, there's a lot of fake stuff coming from everywhere! I've had pharma grade steroids and they worked amazingly however, I've also tried a brand that has been slated on here plenty of times and still got pretty much the same results.
So, don't believe everything you hear because I think there are just as many fakes on this forum as there are apparently coming out of China.

I just wish it was all legal. Too many shady characters has left me doubting everyone and not just China.

This thread is about GH not steroids and if your concern is about fake steroids I would think its better suited somewhere else in the forum rather than a concerns thread relating to GH. I agree that there are many fakes in both steroids and gh coming from China but also many other parts of the world. I also agree with you that there are forums what push their sponsors selling steroids/gh but you fail to see WE are not a source board and WE don't push any steroids or gh. Of course there are going to be threads and posts what staff miss to delete or edit but on a whole the board is clean from any sources or pushing of a particular brand. These other boards are actually produced with the aim to deceive their members and sell them fakes/underdosed etc steroids and gh. Many of these forums have fake member accounts what state rubbish so members believe the sponsors gear is good and 100% yet the whole forum is dedicated to pushing and making money from poor quality/fake gear, I am not naming other forums but its clear that this board isnt like that and if you can't see that then I would question your mental capabilities.

We are also not asking you to trust what every member/staff say, after all its opinion based board and we all give our opinion, what you do is read and take from it what ever you like, but I will say this about this board we have a huge amount of knowledge what is independent and not driven by sponsors, we state our OWN opinion and if you don't want to follow or take the advice given from someone who as probably been training and using gear longer than you have been alive then that's your choice but there are many and I mean many members who do listen and take the advice and that's why WE are NO1 steroid forum on the internet and that's why we remain at the top.

Now within this thread there is a lot of good information and there are guys who will not except that generic gh's are poor but without repeating myself over and over which seems to be a regular occurrence because some people fail to grasp or want to believe they have been wasting their money on crap I will keep this short. The Chinese can produce chemicals what mimic gh sides, these generic companies are using anti-duretic hormones, igf, AI's and a boat load of other chemcals we have never heard of in their generic gh, ive been told this by some Chinese sources and ive experienced the crap myself over the years. The results what many experince are a mixture of these chemicals and the aas being used along side a solid diet. If many actually used pharm grade gh they would know what gh is suppose to feel like and do, because I can say without doubt if you use pharm grade gh like bodybuilders are suppose to it will amaze you but many will not except this because they are driven by price and price only. I was sent a large quantity of generic gh from a well known source once with no labels on and a pack of boxes and labels of various generic companies, he told me to label them up to what ever company I wanted to. I have also had good ifg blood test back from generics like most claim but the results between generic vs pharm grade are further apart than North and South Poles. The truth is these second rate labs dont have the equipment or even have the intention in selling 100% gh they are only interested in one thing and that's making money.

Your opinion does count on here just like everyone else's, we are not saying listen to staff only, that would be silly. If you have had good experience with a certain company what many on here slag off then state your opinion but I think members have the right to ask you what experience you have had in all your yrs/months/weeks with aas and gh. There isnt a straight answer to fakes or counterfeit steroids because the truth is many are experience the fakes and other don't. Its all about where you get it from and your OWN experience but you are totally wrong in saying staff here have an agenda to push certain brands, if you knew us you would know how retarded that sounds and in all honesty you sound like a frustrated young child.

I also know other boards and sources are being hit financially because of this thread and how many other people have had their eyes opened to the generic market. Yes that's right this thread as highlighted what crap is being sold on the generic gh market and many have stopped buying and these sources and boards are feeling the pinch. Ive had loads of people contact me to thank me for letting them know my opinion about generics, many have come from other boards saying they have stopped using generics and I know many of these sources/boards what sell and promote this crap are hurting!!

My opinion weather I am staff or not is the same and that is pharm grade gh is far superior than any generic and I wouldn't use generics again if they were free, I would only buy from a licenced lab.

[lovbyts]

Marcus, look at the name (The Incredible Dump) and he likes to argue with you. Hello Bo!!!

[lovbyts]

Nice. You are here 1 month and 6 post but you are doubting the integrity and honesty of the mods and staff.
If you actually knew this site. you would know we don't have any sources on here. We don't discuss sources or scammers. So i dont know where you get off saying people are pushing their own stuff.

^^^^^ Nobody and i mean nobody in this thread or on this forum is pushing anything...

This board is for information only, its not a source board...

This is to The Incredible Dump

Say hello to Bo...

[marcus300]

Marcus, look at the name (The Incredible Dump) and he likes to argue with you. Hello Bo!!!

He's not on a proxy so I doubt its Bo and this is my first correspondance with him and probably the last so ive never argued or debated with him before.

[lovbyts]

Nice. You are here 1 month and 6 post but you are doubting the integrity and honesty of the mods and staff.
If you actually knew this site. you would know we don't have any sources on here. We don't discuss sources or scammers. So i dont know where you get off saying people are pushing their own stuff.

^^^^^ Nobody and i mean nobody in this thread or on this forum is pushing anything...

This board is for information only, its not a source board...

This is to The Incredible Dump

He's not on a proxy so I doubt its Bo and this is my first correspondance with him and probably the last so ive never argued or debated with him before.

OK I just saw that Matt and gixxerboy1 was going round and round with him and Bo does seem to like to use stupid names like that but if he isnt spoofing then???

[gixxerboy1]

OK I just saw that Matt and gixxerboy1 was going round and round with him and Bo does seem to like to use stupid names like that but if he isnt spoofing then???

i dont think its Bo, but it dont doubt its a previously banned member

[Markosterone]

Anybody tried the new "UG" HGH that is supposed to be made in the US by US scientists ?

[noserider]

Anybody tried the new "UG" HGH that is supposed to be made in the US by US scientists ?

I exchanged pm's with someone who just started them last week. Said he was going to do blood work so we'll see. I will say that there is no way in hell I believe that their gh is made in the US.

[gixxerboy1]

Anybody tried the new "UG" HGH that is supposed to be made in the US by US scientists ?

i dont know what brand you are referring to but there is no american ugl gh

[Markosterone]

i dont know what brand you are referring to but there is no american ugl gh

I'll send you a PM, check it out...

[Markosterone]

I exchanged pm's with someone who just started them last week. Said he was going to do blood work so we'll see. I will say that there is no way in hell I believe that their gh is made in the US.

Is this someone anyone you know? maybe you are refering to LB ?

All I can say is if this is the real deal and these guys can provide the volumes they are claiming, the world of GH will change.
But it does sound a little too good to be true though.

[marcus300]

It will be generic, made in China and will have USA packaging and labels.

[noserider]

Is this someone anyone you know? maybe you are refering to LB ?

Yup, same guy.

[lovbyts]

Is this someone anyone you know? maybe you are refering to LB ?

All I can say is if this is the real deal and these guys can provide the volumes they are claiming, the world of GH will change.
But it does sound a little too good to be true though.

Guaranteed it has nothing to do with me and I also dont believe there is anyway a UG can produce it in the US let alone China for that fact. That's why 99% is fake unless you get Human grade somehow.

[Markosterone]

Guaranteed it has nothing to do with me and I also dont believe there is anyway a UG can produce it in the US let alone China for that fact. That's why 99% is fake unless you get Human grade somehow.

Not you

I have never done human grade HGH. Have used Rips for 6 monts 5iu ED. It did alot for me when it comes to growing in the gym.
But then again, it is chinese, and I can never know for sure it even is HGH in there or what it is.

//M

[CEKoop]

Interesting series of articles in the NY Times about toxic Chinese products in general- it's a lot to read, but good information:

A Toxic Pipeline
Stories in this Pulitzer Prize-winning series have examined how dangerous and poisonous pharmaceutical ingredients from China have flowed into the global market. Reporting on four continents, Walt Bogdanich and Jake Hooker traced the illicit ingredients through traders and middlemen that formed a supply chain stretching from small factories in rural China to consumers around the world. The stories detailed the devastating, sometime deadly, human cost of this toxic pipeline.
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/i...ine/index.html

From the Washington Post:
Tainted Chinese Imports Common
[I]...among the 107 food imports from China that the Food and Drug Administration detained at U.S. ports just last month, agency documents reveal, along with more than 1,000 shipments of tainted Chinese dietary supplements, toxic Chinese cosmetics and counterfeit Chinese medicines.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...051901273.html

Some Economics Blog:
More Toxic Imports From China Potentially Harming Children
"...China. A country that has flaunted safety rules when it comes to American imports," Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY), who has called for a Food and Drug Administration investigation, said."
"The blood thinner Heparin manufactured in China was also recalled recently by the FDA after it was found to have caused the deaths of 81 American citizens. Authorities believe that the contaminant, oversulfated chondroitin sulfate, a substance that mimics heparin but costs 99 percent less, entered the drug’s supply chain in China."
http://economyincrisis.org/content/m...rming-children

The latest toxic product (you know, after the mercury in kids' play jewelry, lead in toys, toxic drywall, tainted pet food, contaminated toothpaste, poison baby formula, and numerous problems with pharmaceutical manufacturing) coming from China is honey-
Asian Honey, Banned in Europe, Is Flooding U.S. Grocery Shelves
http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2011/08/honey-laundering/
I know... it's honey, not GH. But if you read the article, particularly the section titled "How Do They Get Away With It?" you can see how such business practices would apply to anything manufactured over there. Just substitute GH for honey in the article, and think about it.

Yes, as another poster mentioned, theoretically this could happen anywhere (although I think far less likely in the UK or US due to regulations and inspections). China is who seems to make the news over and over again. Probably due to how the economic blog above phrased it: "Overzealous to gain precious market share, Chinese manufacturers are notorious for cutting corners to save on production cost. Oftentimes, that results in companies using banned substances simply because they are cheaper than a less toxic substance. That is the world we live in now. The removal of trade barriers have made trade essential to the economy, and in an effort to make trade as smooth and painless as possible, countless products get into American stores without the proper scrutiny. Oftentimes with deadly results."

A few years ago, long before I ever found this thread about GH, I decided not to buy ANYTHING from China, if I can help it. Not food, not dishes, not pots and pans, not anything I consume, put in my body, or touches my food. Not supplements, not prescription medications... not even dog food. Nothing. I'm not saying all Chinese manufacturers are bad, I'm sure there are quality Chinese businessmen and manufacturers. But there have been so many high-profile stories of one Chinese product after another being tainted with something toxic on a large scale, personally, I simply won't take the chance. So that definitely applies to something I'm injecting! Because if these other, "legitimate" products are tainted, what about the perhaps-not-so-legitimate products? It's not like you can complain to the BBB or the FDA. We're just screwed. And hope it's not something that actually harms you... I mean, how do you explain that in the ER? You can't even tell them what you took...

[CEKoop]

Here is an example on real v. fake pharma grade GH. I don't know about you guys, but I don't think I could tell the difference if this fake was in front of me:

http://www.gene.com/gene/products/in...aq/update.html

[Fit N Fun]

Bit of History, had my Chinese HGH tested using Maldi Toff and Mass Spectrometer at a university lab which showed that the sample tested was extremely pure and 191AA.

I posted copies of the test results earlier in this thread.

The tests did not give any information on the activity levels, which is clearly an important aspect given how fragile HGH is and therefore subject to degradation while being flown round the world and handled by the delivery services.

I looked hard for a method to test the activity level without luck till one of the posters on this thread posted they had tested for IGF-1 which the liver produces from HGH.

Just got my IGF-1 test results back.

It is a blood spot test and had to be sent by airmail to another country to get the test results analysed, this may have downgraded the results I got.

Shows that I have 422 ng/ml, with a normal IGF-1 range of 100 to 300 ng/ml

I am taking 9 X 2iu per week from Monday am to Friday am.

Saw an Italian study that said the median IGF-I levels were 206 ng/ml in the age range 25–39 years, 147 ng/ml in the age range 40–59 years and 103 ng/ml in the range≥60 years.

From the above my natural test level must be around 140, so am getting an additional 280 ng/ml from the HGH

My advice to those unsure of whether their source is reliable is to buy directly from the manufacturer, or someone the manufacturer directs you to.

I have been using this HGH on and off for 3 years and am delighted to have some verification of what I felt to be true all along

See the attachment below for a copy of the results

Front_page_for_publication_IGF-1_Test 2.pdf

[trix1000]

This thread is about GH not steroids and if your concern is about fake steroids I would think its better suited somewhere else in the forum rather than a concerns thread relating to GH. I agree that there are many fakes in both steroids and gh coming from China but also many other parts of the world. I also agree with you that there are forums what push their sponsors selling steroids/gh but you fail to see WE are not a source board and WE don't push any steroids or gh. Of course there are going to be threads and posts what staff miss to delete or edit but on a whole the board is clean from any sources or pushing of a particular brand. These other boards are actually produced with the aim to deceive their members and sell them fakes/underdosed etc steroids and gh. Many of these forums have fake member accounts what state rubbish so members believe the sponsors gear is good and 100% yet the whole forum is dedicated to pushing and making money from poor quality/fake gear, I am not naming other forums but its clear that this board isnt like that and if you can't see that then I would question your mental capabilities.

We are also not asking you to trust what every member/staff say, after all its opinion based board and we all give our opinion, what you do is read and take from it what ever you like, but I will say this about this board we have a huge amount of knowledge what is independent and not driven by sponsors, we state our OWN opinion and if you don't want to follow or take the advice given from someone who as probably been training and using gear longer than you have been alive then that's your choice but there are many and I mean many members who do listen and take the advice and that's why WE are NO1 steroid forum on the internet and that's why we remain at the top.

Now within this thread there is a lot of good information and there are guys who will not except that generic gh's are poor but without repeating myself over and over which seems to be a regular occurrence because some people fail to grasp or want to believe they have been wasting their money on crap I will keep this short. The Chinese can produce chemicals what mimic gh sides, these generic companies are using anti-duretic hormones, igf, AI's and a boat load of other chemcals we have never heard of in their generic gh, ive been told this by some Chinese sources and ive experienced the crap myself over the years. The results what many experince are a mixture of these chemicals and the aas being used along side a solid diet. If many actually used pharm grade gh they would know what gh is suppose to feel like and do, because I can say without doubt if you use pharm grade gh like bodybuilders are suppose to it will amaze you but many will not except this because they are driven by price and price only. I was sent a large quantity of generic gh from a well known source once with no labels on and a pack of boxes and labels of various generic companies, he told me to label them up to what ever company I wanted to. I have also had good ifg blood test back from generics like most claim but the results between generic vs pharm grade are further apart than North and South Poles. The truth is these second rate labs dont have the equipment or even have the intention in selling 100% gh they are only interested in one thing and that's making money.

Your opinion does count on here just like everyone else's, we are not saying listen to staff only, that would be silly. If you have had good experience with a certain company what many on here slag off then state your opinion but I think members have the right to ask you what experience you have had in all your yrs/months/weeks with aas and gh. There isnt a straight answer to fakes or counterfeit steroids because the truth is many are experience the fakes and other don't. Its all about where you get it from and your OWN experience but you are totally wrong in saying staff here have an agenda to push certain brands, if you knew us you would know how retarded that sounds and in all honesty you sound like a frustrated young child.

I also know other boards and sources are being hit financially because of this thread and how many other people have had their eyes opened to the generic market. Yes that's right this thread as highlighted what crap is being sold on the generic gh market and many have stopped buying and these sources and boards are feeling the pinch. Ive had loads of people contact me to thank me for letting them know my opinion about generics, many have come from other boards saying they have stopped using generics and I know many of these sources/boards what sell and promote this crap are hurting!!

My opinion weather I am staff or not is the same and that is pharm grade gh is far superior than any generic and I wouldn't use generics again if they were free, I would only buy from a licenced lab.

I'm new to this world not trying to hijack here but, how does one know what's generic and not. I joined this site after reading the AAS profile section of site. I liked the fact that they logged there references at the bottom so that you may cross reference and do your own research. I also came along a thread which stated a man got flu like symptoms from generic HGH blue tops, and was hospitalized. Not sure who manufactured but will be steering clear of those. Now I have a reliable source ( I hope ) I guess what my biggest question is.... Should my source not be trusted ? And rather then pinning HGH. Would HGH fragment or GHRP-6 do the same so that I don't need to worry bout bunk gear? >NEW<.

Must say that you guys have impressed me so much after reading this thread. The way you guys put your heads together to warn and gather testing info. I think I have found a place where I can trust the info, and for someone like me that lacks knowledge! I can't begin to tell you or explain how much of a relief this is.

I look forward to GROWING in every sense of the word, with you guys.

Mind you I have never willingly injected my self with anything. >pvssy< lol

[Hondarocks]

Bump for everyone who is lost or needs to read. One of the biggest thread on the forum, maybe should be stuck somewhere?

[littlebill]

I have spent hours reading this thread and there are some very good points that I agree with. If you trust your source- it doesn't matter if your HGH is made in America, China, or Ireland. The fact of the matter is that 75% of all U.S. pharmaceuticals are compounded in China. There was just a big article on this in the Wall Street Journal. I am currently lucky to have Genotropin and I love it. Recently there was a gap in that supply so I did get some from China from a source who had an excellent reputation and been in the business for 10 years. It was excellent. I tested high on my IGF-1, but most importantly I tested my GROWTH HORMONE SERUM LEVELS. See IGF-1 levels can be fooled with peps and, well exogenous IGF consumption. Growth Hormone Serum numbers do not lie. They cannot be fooled by anything. And they cost under $200 to check. Mine, when on the Chinese, were 4X my normal range. I had all the sides, made all the gains, felt great- for about 1/6th of the price. They were vacuum sealed, and packed and delivered very professionally. They were real. I have zero doubt about that. I am a 42 year old man with graduate degrees in chemistry and exercise physiology. I might add 6 years straight of HGH use. My BF is 4%. So those doubting that real 191 HGH is coming out of China are incorrect. If i'm allowed to name the brand I will. I can also furnish my labs to support my claims. Trust the source and you cannot go wrong. Do I like it as much as Genotropin? For 15 cents on the dollar I like it a hellava lot more. For those who have had bad experiences in China, I have had bad experiences in the USA. It's who ya know.

[Sgt. Hartman]

I have spent hours reading this thread and there are some very good points that I agree with. If you trust your source- it doesn't matter if your HGH is made in America, China, or Ireland. The fact of the matter is that 75% of all U.S. pharmaceuticals are compounded in China. There was just a big article on this in the Wall Street Journal. I am currently lucky to have Genotropin and I love it. Recently there was a gap in that supply so I did get some from China from a source who had an excellent reputation and been in the business for 10 years. It was excellent. I tested high on my IGF-1, but most importantly I tested my GROWTH HORMONE SERUM LEVELS. See IGF-1 levels can be fooled with peps and, well exogenous IGF consumption. Growth Hormone Serum numbers do not lie. They cannot be fooled by anything. And they cost under $200 to check. Mine, when on the Chinese, were 4X my normal range. I had all the sides, made all the gains, felt great- for about 1/6th of the price. They were vacuum sealed, and packed and delivered very professionally. They were real. I have zero doubt about that. I am a 42 year old man with graduate degrees in chemistry and exercise physiology. I might add 6 years straight of HGH use. My BF is 4%. So those doubting that real 191 HGH is coming out of China are incorrect. If i'm allowed to name the brand I will. I can also furnish my labs to support my claims. Trust the source and you cannot go wrong. Do I like it as much as Genotropin? For 15 cents on the dollar I like it a hellava lot more. For those who have had bad experiences in China, I have had bad experiences in the USA. It's who ya know.

Are you saying you maintain 4%? Let's see some pics.

[littlebill]

OK NP let me see if the mods will let me put pics up- I'm a new member and i tried earlier didnt work but ill try again. On this thread. If they wont let me yet- then when they do i will. Ill try now hold up

[littlebill]

Good enough?

[littlebill]

And ya, I maintain 4-6 tops. 6( after a 6 pack and pizza)

[Sgt. Hartman]

You look great and your calves are disgusting, but that's not 4%. Nice job, it's obvious the work you've put in.

I remember seeing your name over at another board (I don't ever post over there but check it out once in a while) so welcome to a better board with no BS hidden agenda.

[littlebill]

Thanks for the welcome and this is a much better board and ya I'm probably not 4 right this second- but pretty close.

[Sgt. Hartman]

Doesn't matter bro. Wasn't trying to call you out but it seems recently alot of people on here make crazy ridiculous claims about their stats. "I'm at 5% BF but what do I need to do to make my abs visible?" LMFAO.

[littlebill]

Hey I'm a new guy here bro. Gotta start at the bottom. It's good- I'll prove myself. and the big thing here that you said- NO AGENDA! Good to see you again Sarge.

[littlebill]

I dunno- you don't think I'm 4? Haha

[cyounger100]

I have spent hours reading this thread and there are some very good points that I agree with. If you trust your source- it doesn't matter if your HGH is made in America, China, or Ireland. The fact of the matter is that 75% of all U.S. pharmaceuticals are compounded in China. There was just a big article on this in the Wall Street Journal. I am currently lucky to have Genotropin and I love it. Recently there was a gap in that supply so I did get some from China from a source who had an excellent reputation and been in the business for 10 years. It was excellent. I tested high on my IGF-1, but most importantly I tested my GROWTH HORMONE SERUM LEVELS. See IGF-1 levels can be fooled with peps and, well exogenous IGF consumption. Growth Hormone Serum numbers do not lie. They cannot be fooled by anything. And they cost under $200 to check. Mine, when on the Chinese, were 4X my normal range. I had all the sides, made all the gains, felt great- for about 1/6th of the price. They were vacuum sealed, and packed and delivered very professionally. They were real. I have zero doubt about that. I am a 42 year old man with graduate degrees in chemistry and exercise physiology. I might add 6 years straight of HGH use. My BF is 4%. So those doubting that real 191 HGH is coming out of China are incorrect. If i'm allowed to name the brand I will. I can also furnish my labs to support my claims. Trust the source and you cannot go wrong. Do I like it as much as Genotropin? For 15 cents on the dollar I like it a hellava lot more. For those who have had bad experiences in China, I have had bad experiences in the USA. It's who ya know.

you can post the brand i already believe from reading on other board its rips and its the best for your buck right now

[BigRick82]

MFS..... Mother Fukin Shiet! Been out of the game for about 9 years. Was on HGH back then, just now getting back into it. Wow I didn't know how many fakes are out there. I just recieved 9 kits, 3 different brands from 2 friends and theP. One of the brands from my friend I just started yesterday and already am doubting it. IP Blue Top Somatropin which I think is Nipertropin which has recieved a lot of bad rap, enought to keep me from wanting to take it anymore. I do have some underlying medical conditions that I feel the HGH will benefit me. I've had 4 motorcyle wrecks and the first 3 times I was on GH and healed very quickly. My 4th wreck 4 years ago and I'm still trying to recover. What a waste of $$ IMO. Now I don't want anything but Pharma Grade from the pharmacy with a script. Sheeeeesh~!

[cyounger100]

MFS..... Mother Fukin Shiet! Been out of the game for about 9 years. Was on HGH back then, just now getting back into it. Wow I didn't know how many fakes are out there. I just recieved 9 kits, 3 different brands from 2 friends and theP. One of the brands from my friend I just started yesterday and already am doubting it. IP Blue Top Somatropin which I think is Nipertropin which has recieved a lot of bad rap, enought to keep me from wanting to take it anymore. I do have some underlying medical conditions that I feel the HGH will benefit me. I've had 4 motorcyle wrecks and the first 3 times I was on GH and healed very quickly. My 4th wreck 4 years ago and I'm still trying to recover. What a waste of $$ IMO. Now I don't want anything but Pharma Grade from the pharmacy with a script. Sheeeeesh~!

well tp is good gh been on for a while now is only one i would take other than pharm grade of course

[Stillstriven4sixfeet]

Cyounger did u mean to say IP is good?

[CEKoop]

FYI- Article in today's news:

China breaks up fake m*dicine racket
AP, November 3, 2011

China said Friday it had busted a gang that produced and sold fake m*dicine -- some made of animal feed -- arresting 114 suspects and seizing more than 65 million counterfeit tablets.

China has frequently been hit by fake dr g scandals despite government pledges to improve supervision of the industry, triggering growing public outrage over lax controls and official corruption.

The Ministry of Public Security said in a statement that around 1,000 police officers raided 117 dens and pharmacies that produced and sold fake dr gs.

The raids were the result of a four-month investigation during which police discovered that the gang repackaged expired pharmaceuticals, or used dangerous ingredients such as animal feed and chemical pigments to make tablets.

"In order to make the fake dr*gs similar to the real medicine in colour, weight and other senses, some even added iron powder and diazepam (used to treat anxiety disorders) into their products... which caused huge harm to patients," it said.

The statement did not mention whether anyone had died or fallen ill after taking the counterfeit m*dicines or when the raids occurred.

Most of the fake dr*gs were sold to clinics and pharmacies outside city centres or in the countryside, and the sellers used newspapers, magazines and particularly the Internet for promotion, it said.

The case is the latest in a string of food and dr*g safety scandals to hit the nation.

In 2007, Zheng Xiaoyu, former head of the State Food and Dr*g Administration, was executed for accepting $850,000 in bribes in exchange for granting approval for hundreds of m*dicines, some of which were later found to be dangerous.

The case triggered governmental pledges to improve supervision of the country's food and dr*g industries, but incidents have nevertheless erupted since then.

One of the biggest scandals emerged in 2008 when huge amounts of the industrial chemical melamine were found to have been illegally added to dairy products, killing at least six babies and sickening another 300,000.

More recently in September, the government arrested 32 people over the sale of cooking oil made from leftovers taken from gutters.

--end article--

[Sc0rch]

What does this have to do with HGH?

The article says TABLETS.

[marcus300]

FYI- Article in today's news:

China breaks up fake m*dicine racket
AP, November 3, 2011

China said Friday it had busted a gang that produced and sold fake m*dicine -- some made of animal feed -- arresting 114 suspects and seizing more than 65 million counterfeit tablets.

China has frequently been hit by fake dr g scandals despite government pledges to improve supervision of the industry, triggering growing public outrage over lax controls and official corruption.

The Ministry of Public Security said in a statement that around 1,000 police officers raided 117 dens and pharmacies that produced and sold fake dr gs.

The raids were the result of a four-month investigation during which police discovered that the gang repackaged expired pharmaceuticals, or used dangerous ingredients such as animal feed and chemical pigments to make tablets.

"In order to make the fake dr*gs similar to the real medicine in colour, weight and other senses, some even added iron powder and diazepam (used to treat anxiety disorders) into their products... which caused huge harm to patients," it said.

The statement did not mention whether anyone had died or fallen ill after taking the counterfeit m*dicines or when the raids occurred.

Most of the fake dr*gs were sold to clinics and pharmacies outside city centres or in the countryside, and the sellers used newspapers, magazines and particularly the Internet for promotion, it said.

The case is the latest in a string of food and dr*g safety scandals to hit the nation.

In 2007, Zheng Xiaoyu, former head of the State Food and Dr*g Administration, was executed for accepting $850,000 in bribes in exchange for granting approval for hundreds of m*dicines, some of which were later found to be dangerous.

The case triggered governmental pledges to improve supervision of the country's food and dr*g industries, but incidents have nevertheless erupted since then.

One of the biggest scandals emerged in 2008 when huge amounts of the industrial chemical melamine were found to have been illegally added to dairy products, killing at least six babies and sickening another 300,000.

More recently in September, the government arrested 32 people over the sale of cooking oil made from leftovers taken from gutters.

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Thanks for posting,

Just goes to show you what these generic companies are capable of doing when so much money is involved.

[gixxerboy1]

What does this have to do with HGH?

The article says TABLETS.

You are only going to hurt yourself by trying to deny everything and keeping your head in the sand

[cyounger100]

Cyounger did u mean to say IP is good?

nope def didnt mean too say ip never

[CEKoop]

What does this have to do with HGH?

The article says TABLETS.

I was only trying to point out that this happens ALL THE TIME with ALL KINDS of medication (and food) made in China. There is no reason to believe that HGH would be an exception. There is no quality control over there. No way to know what you are getting is 1) real and 2) not TOXIC