But to answer you question it's probably fake.Originally Posted by Glastokid
But to answer you question it's probably fake.Originally Posted by Glastokid
That's fishing and it's not allowed.[/QUOTE]
I guess you couldn't tell I was being a smart ass?!
Leave the police work to the mods.
I ordered the same product. Tested for hcg with pregnacy test and it came back negative. Took a shot of 10iu and waited 3 hrs then went to have my hgh blood serum tested, will know if it is elevated in 2-3 days. Will let you know. It is the same test given sports althelets for doping.
read about the serum test. It doesnt prove it bioavailable.
If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong
I read the serum test threads and have come to the conclusion that the nfl would not or could not perform those complicated tests on a player to check for performance enhancing substances. They would rely on the blood tests and fine or suspend a player on the assumtion that the elevated test results show doping. There is no way they could afford all that required testing for bioavailability to punish someone. He or she would be a victum of false detection.
^^^i dont understand what you are saying in regards to NFL. testing. Yes if the levels are raised it shows intent to (cheat or dope) So they will be fined or suspended even if its not actually bio active
If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong
Now I know ALL website sources of hgh (generic or counterfeit) are fake.
All home testing is useless.
Blood tests don't prove anything.
Sources are all suspect.
No UGL can produce HGH.
Chinese HGH is doctored to produce all signs to detect effectiveness.
I can not get a doctor to prescribe effective doses for bodybuilding.
SO how in the hell can you get hgh at a reasonable cost?
HGH I order is not bioavailable! Therefore useless.
I can not get any help from all these experts(vets) as they cannot post any useful information.
Last edited by ChuckEisenmench; 07-28-2012 at 01:45 PM.
^^^well we dont discuss sources. So i dont know what help you want. There are people and sources of human grade gh.
gh at a reasonable cost? Depends on what you consider reasonable. And thats why gh isnt for the average guy. Its not cost effective. That is just how gh is.
you seem angry about it. Yes, good sources are hard to find. THats how they stay good and dont get busted. They deal with select people. And dont advertise all over the place. You seem upset that hgh is expensive. So is a lambo. THats why i dont have one. But that is life you cant afford everything. And since people all want GH now. There are people who take advantage of people desperate to find it. They make millions of dollars selling crap over the internet. You cant complain or get your money back. You are asking to be ripped off,
If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong
I want a lambo!!!!Originally Posted by gixxerboy1
Jintropin is a Chinese product, still is. Why would China conterfiet it's own product with identical packageing and vial labels? Would China allow a company in their own country to manufacture a fake item identical to a legitimate item? What IS the tipoff that one Jintropin from China is not real?
Bingo.
Those assholes will do anything for a buck. That being said I've gotten fake jin from china. The packaging was legit, box, instructions, numbers, etc but the vials looked a little weird. The labels overlapped a bit. Tested positive as HCG.
Why they would do this? Because they can sell vials individually than use the boxes with HCG, sell them to another company that sells to people online.
I know a little about the chinese and there culture. Absolutely they will make a complete line of crap for who they feel are a dumb and barbaric Race. To think that the people making that have a code of honor to America is beyond naive. The profit in making ghrp-6 or hcg in place of Growth is astronomical in the kind of numbers being sold here. I also, had crap Jin, with codes etc. looked great, the more I took the worse I felt and looked. If anyone believes it's great stuff, go ahead and keep supporting there product. Don't try to convince us it's great, convince yourself. I'll never touch it again. I know plenty of guys that just do not get the fact that there's a reason it's cheap. I just say go ahead I'm done explaining.Originally Posted by Pac Man
I have received HGH shipped from China via EMS. So I know it's from China. Why should I waste money on that stuff when I can click on the banner at the top of the forum and order a bottle of growth hormone there?
Thanks for your expertice. I am going to see my PCP who is pretty cool and ask him for a script. I might not even need HGH, just looking at your avatar gets my hormones elevated.
Last edited by ChuckEisenmench; 07-29-2012 at 01:20 PM.
^^^never going to happen
If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong
I found a scource in Mexico who ships the stuff cool and intact boxes with seals and hologram from the factory. Jintropin 10iu X 10 vials. Shipping in afew days. Got my BW back yesterday. Reference interval (normal) is 0.0-2.9. My result was 58.4. Have you ever done HGH blood serum tests?
Last edited by ChuckEisenmench; 07-30-2012 at 04:52 PM.
I doubt they are real coming from Mexico.
I don't believe there are 10iu vials in the central America market.Originally Posted by ChuckEisenmench
Lord what a confusion over HGH bloody hell its complicated
Not complicated. Any ugl or generic is crapOriginally Posted by drazenm
If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong
I have done chinese and human grade
generics are a waste of time and money
the difference is night and day
my source hands me all these tests and i have no idea what I am looking at
I took 3 ius of jins like 6 years ago and they were incredible. My diet was poor 50% of the time and it didnt matter.
What r you talking aboutOriginally Posted by ChuckEisenmench
If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong
chinese HGH
what chinese? There is legit chinese and fake ugl stuff.
so if you bought generic chinese crap. That a company spent 5 bucks on packaging an a serial number you can check against their website.
i can make that website in about an hour. and what do you think a sticker cost. people are gullible
all that means its that package the ugl made. it doesnt make it real gh. they just confirmed you bought authentic fakes
If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong
Hey, the Chinese make most of the REAL HGH in the world. They can ship anywhere in the world except USA. I went to the REAL companie's website and used the REAL co.'s fake protection procedure and mine passed. You could not make a website anyway. If you know the REAL website for fraud check let me know it. Chinese HGH is cheaper than others as are most of the stuff we buy from them. That's why they sell so much. The effort you put into refusing to accept that NO ONE can get real least costly HGH from China requires some proof. Do you have any? Untill I hear some USEFUL input about checking for fakes from you I have to assume that you do not have any ideas
Mate gixxer is only trying to look out for people so thay dont get scammed and get bunk shit.
Coming on this board as a new member and trying to discredit a vet dosent put you in good standing
no open source posting
keep all source request's to PM'S please
someone once said to me a clever man learn's by his own mistake's. But a wise man learn's by the mistake's of other people.
detailed detection timesat least 45 day's active use and 100 posts for a source checkunsure about the rule's please read up
thread for first cycle choices
SOURCE CHECKS CLICK HERE
there are only 2 companies in china licensed to make gh. It takes millions of dollars worth of equipment to make it. If you think some lab is going to spend millions on a ugl lab and not get licensed that nuts.
I have a source in china that sells "GH" with any color top and iu size vial i want. So whats from stopping me from buying those. Creating labels and boxes with a security code. Then a website to check them against? Thats what these people do. and they are making millions scamming people.
As for your everything in china is cheaper, why is the legit chinese gh on par with the rest of the world for the cost of gh? But the ugl gh is pennies on the dollar in comparison.
and im sorry look where jins can ship legally. Its not just the us. They can only ship to a handful of countries and most are in eastern europe.
So yes there is legit chinese gh. never said there wasnt. But all the ugl chinese stuff isnt.
Thats why i asked you a few times what kind you got? But you still havent answered. You may have purchased a legit company. But if you bought one of the hundreds of brands that just stuck "tropin" on there name and it comes in a shiney box. You got ripped.
And look up legit pharmaceutical companies that make it. Most arent in China
If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong
I only buy Gensci. What brand do you buy? How do you it's not counterfeit?
Settle down chuck. you got took. It happens. It's no ones fault but your own. Sorry but at least you got some hcg or something.![]()
Last edited by BigBadWolf; 08-01-2012 at 08:43 PM.
I have found this website to be most knowledgeable and the people have the answers to my questions. I guess I have not been happy that no one here can tell me or at least steer me to a reliable online site to order real HGH. Has ANYONE out there been satified that what they used was real. I tested for hcg with pregnancy test and it came out negative. I had BW done and HGH levels were elevated. Now the question of bioavailabilty remains. Who has not gotten ripped off. I know there can be no source checks. BUT----I believe HGH can be gotten without going to a pharmacy.
Yes legit gh can be found. As you know we dont discuss sources or sites. So I dont know why you are upset. And alot of sources wamt to stay private and low key. And yes over been satisfied with gh before. But I also purchase wiselyOriginally Posted by ChuckEisenmench
If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong
I agree!Originally Posted by stocky121
The world is naive, google jintropin, the site says it offical and has pics of people in white coats and loads of big words so it must be legit haha, oh look it says buy now, along with a range of products that gensci dosnt even make, oh well they said they legit and the internet wouldnt lie to me................
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