I just shot 10ius of my riptropin..
def feel hot and tingly...lol...maybe i just needed to up the dosage a bit...
ive been on 5ius for 6 months... maybe i need to go up to 8iu...we will see how i feel in the next 30 mins...i just shot it 10 mins ago
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I just shot 10ius of my riptropin..
def feel hot and tingly...lol...maybe i just needed to up the dosage a bit...
ive been on 5ius for 6 months... maybe i need to go up to 8iu...we will see how i feel in the next 30 mins...i just shot it 10 mins ago
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I cant ever remember feeling hot and tingly after a gh shot tbh, does that happen to you all the time?Originally Posted by JuliusPleaser
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jing jai
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well no...the only time i ever went tingly in my life was 2ius of generic blue tops like 5 years ago when i first took gh...
i never ever since then ever got numb or tingly...
there was time i was taking pinwheel hyges...which was also during the time i was researching about whether pinwheel **********s were real or not, i shot literally two vials of pinwheels to see what would happen...i got very sleepy and that was it...this was after i had already finished two kits of it and this whole fake debate was a hot topic...i never took the 8iu tops tho so i never got a chance to see if they were gtg
this is why i took 10ius of rips just now...to put an end to if its real or not...i have to take back that i feel tingly..i feel more hot actually, like sweaty hot..like a slight cold sweat...which i though was a tingly sensation..it isn't...i also have a slight headache as if i was dehydrated...
regardless, this doesnt explain why i haven't lost way more fat during my cycle of rips...
Last edited by JuliusPleaser; 07-29-2010 at 04:42 PM.
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Man you haven't had much luck with gh, it must be frustrating!
The 8iu tops are gtg if they are genuine, I think they may be under dosed but are gh for sure.
I can't explain hot feeling but doesn't sound good. How's your BP?
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jing jai
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My source sent me a new kit of Rips and offered to pay for a blood test as he did with Julius and Fossil. I'm really not sure what I should do tho. Since I stopped taking the original Rips (which I had been on for about 1.5 months), I actually lost 6 pounds. My weight kept seeming to go up and up on the Rips, and I felt fat. I was feeling much thinner when I stopped, but now that I've started again on the new batch, I'm instantly bloating again and feel flabby/fat.
I think I will finish out this kit, arrange for blood work and then go from there, but if the blood work results aren't drastically improved, I will ask for my money back and probably never try any HGH again.
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He is offering me the same thing right now. I told him it's up to him and that I would be up for it even though after 6 kits I got nothing.
Maybe he will re label some Saizen as Rips so we get good results LOL....wouldn't that be something.
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Sounds like its the mystery compound that everyone seems to be getting, some form of anti diuretic for sure...
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jing jai
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up some questions first. I'm about to spend some money and Im scared 1. i wont be taking enough or two that it will be fake
Sales man at a ANTI AGE clinic, this business is a legit spot, manifacture, producem and sell. was trying to tell me at my age 23, with there name brand serano, omnitropem and tevtrope at 1 IU I should see unreal results at 2 month and should run that to 6 to 12 months. 17 Iu seems like alot and 1 IU doesnt from what Im reading feel like enough but maybe there someone out there that could tell me that because of my age and how good this GH is that it is or isnt worth it.
What Im looking for is a better sense of well being ( battle depression) stronger faster quickerm UNDECTABLE fo drug testing
Recovery Im looking for is to feel fresh hav my legs feel fresg while i lift at night after pratice
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Has anyone ever heard of jus taking 1 IU for 5 days on two days off with reasonable results with 12 month program? Name Brand GH of the ones i posted upbove.
last question how does osmeone upgrade there forms status so that you can live chat with people?
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One iu won't do anything really, even the females are running 2ius.
Live chat is not available on this forum.
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jing jai
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I think the only real solution to this ,an expensive one at that , is for those regular hgh user to switch and try pharma grade for 6 months and then you will see. I have used ansomone and the "tops" up to 70 ius a week at the most but on average 30-40 ius per week so i have two weeks left on greens ,then i am away on holiday for 2 weeks then its pharma for me (god help my wallet!!!!) I used pharma hgh about 23 years ago !!! i think i ran 20ius a week so thats where i will start .Lets just see .
So 20ius a week x 26 weeks = 520 ius at '#@# per ius = "**** ME!!" pounds sterling !! Oh well (as head hits desk with loud thud!! )
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i just spoke to my friends chemist the other night...he said that GH sides aren't a good way to gauge if its legit or not...also, he said, everynoe will reach differently to it, so it doesnt necessarily mean anyone should be anything at a certain point or time..
so maybe my body doesn't respond much to 5iu at all, even for being on 6 months..it would be the same if someone blew up on 250mg of test a week compared to someone doing 750...everyones body responds diff to these drugs...
he said the best thing to do is stop listening to everyone else, or what they had, or what sides they got, how they looked...i know people who got shredded in 2 months!...well not me, and thats is what happened to THAT person , wiht HIS body...
its quite possible we are all losing our minds, but for those who got their blood taken, maybe we are getting bunk shit...regardless, some of us are not...
my one source for gear has the pinwheel **********s, and has known his source for 7 years...my source is a Founder of a UGL... he lab is very popular and im sure most of u take it... he even told me there are 4 diff hyges running around and u think some stupid code is gonna make urs legit...he's right...anyone can make a stupid box and a site to match a code...
i guess its all about who ur source is...if HK is a good source, then we would have to assume his products are good, unless he himself is getting shafted without knowing...i know my gear source is gtg, but i think ive given the chinese enough of my $ for gh...i did howerver take my sources hyges, the pinwheel top, ididnt see much except when i took two vialsof it, i got really really sleepy (16iu) to see what happened...maybe his hyges were legit, but i never gave them a chance because i quickly swiched to rips...
either way, we must take into accound what my friends chemist said...everyone responds differently...andwe can't go off of what happens to anyone else..we must all find what works for ourselves...
my friend gave me his chemists gh just now...im about to shoot 5ius of it to see how i feel...its basically generic blue tops, however it has a silver label that says"
Recombinant Human Growth Hormone for Injection
Rhgh 191aa style
10iu/3.7mg/10ml vial
and a experiation dates
ill let u know how this generic shit is compared to rips in an hour
Last edited by JuliusPleaser; 07-30-2010 at 11:16 AM.
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China is the counterfeit capital of the world, if your happy buying their gh you carry on doing so but I advice you to buy some pharm grade gh not from china and see how you respond, Growth Hormone is expensive to make and once you have pharm grade you will know what quality is, dont be driven by price because your wasting your money IMHO. Do you have any idea what 5 ius of Pharm grade gh would do to you in 5 months? buy it and see and stop buying chinese crap.
They counterfeit everything, they even doing it with rec drugs for the 10th of the price do you really think they are sending you quality gh!! come on.
Pharm grade gh is expensive for a reason try it and see for yourself. If your friends with a chemist ask him to provide you with some Pharm grade instead of buying shit tops from china.
Also stay away from UGL gear, buy legit and you wont go wrong with quality or have any impurities
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You’re right everyone does respond differently and sides are not the be all and end all, BUT let me tell you something that is 100% - if you took 5iu's of pharm grade for 6 months you would see a transformation - end of story.
The fact is that you can’t trust China or sources there. They are out to make money and they will do so in the best way China knows how to, by counterfeiting stuff and selling it to the rest of the world...seriously now you need to realise this and stop kidding yourself. You say your source sold you the pinwheel hyges!!! Everyone knows they are total crap, UK customs seized a load shipped in direct from the manufacturer and they contained ZERO HGH....c'mon FFS what does that tell you about your source?
Now you have blue tops with some back street label on from a chemist, what country are you in? I’m in the UK and there is not a cat in hells chance that any chemist here would even have 'blue tops' in his shop, they would have high quality pahrm grade and nothing else.
This Chinese thing boils down to a few facts
If you trust China then you really need to have a good chat with yourself, let me ask you this - if your child was ill would you give them medicine from China because it is cheap? I bet the answer is NO, and then ask yourself why and I bet the answer is because you don’t trust them.
I think that there is some GH coming out of China but it’s a lottery whether you get any or not. Even Gensi are coming out with ridiculous statements about their stuff being overdosed so ‘you get more bang for your buck’ and they are supposed to be pahrm grade! Imagine Pfizer saying that about their Genotropin...I can’t because they wouldn’t, its medicine FFS, you don’t overdose medicine!!
So if people want to keep sticking their heads in the sand and buying from China then I wish them all the best. If you can’t see it now then you never will....or maybe when you waste another months wage and 6 months of your life finding out you will!
Im not having a dig at you im just tryiong to get people to realise what is obviously going on.
Your last point about finding out if your new gh is good in a hour, I dont get it, how will you know in an hour?
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jing jai
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rHGH BRANDS QUALITY BLOOD CHECK
IGF-1: 135 ng/ml [96 - 494]_____________238________________________________461_________________520 (40' via IM: 521)_______144
HGH: 0,3 ng/ml [0,0 - 10]_______________11,1______________10,5______________22,2________________25,7 (40' via IM: 36,3)______3,3
.................................................. ........EuroHormones
.................................................. .....................................Generic Green
.................................................. .................................................. .............HardCoreGrowth
.................................................. .................................................. ..............................................Hyge.tropin
.................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ...................................Somatrope
Notes:
Injection time: 5:30 am (euroh./green/hardc.g.), 6 am (hyge./soma.)
Days on the same drug before testing: 7 (all four types), 3 (soma.)
Blood work time: 8:00 am (all five types)
Amount injected: 4 iu (euroh./green/soma.) - 5 iu (hardc.g./hyge.)
Injection site: umbilical (euroh.) - oblique (green/hardc.g./hyge./soma.)
Injection type: sub-q (all five types)
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Whats your conculsion BJJ?
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Don't understand the way this data is presented, but I was always wondering if hardcore growth was any good? Your results say no?
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My results say it was better than all the others except Hyge.
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Which hyg? 8 iu top or pinwheel ?
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8iu, pinwheel are fake and contain no gh.
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jing jai
Sapiens Fingit Fortunam Sibi
^^^
I was scammed!!!
Sapiens Fingit Fortunam Sibi
Today I got my Hypertropin, I really want to see now...
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Best of luck
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IGF-1 will creep up that much just on AAS without an AI or SERM (SERMS and type 1 AIs knock it down). If you were running AAS then could just be that or it could be some GH but at about 1/10 or 1/5 the dose.
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My one friend has nutropin AQ
he told me on 3ius a day he saw results in 2 weeks, and has been on for 3 months...
he is now currently 5% bodyfat...
I told him about the riptropin drama and all he said was, when u are ready to get real results call to him... lol
he was saying that AQ is more potent than chinese iu per iu ratio...he said that each iu of nutropin is like 3ius of **********..
ive heard this alot but it makes no sense...i ugess what people are really trying to say is, ********** and chinese crap at 3iu is really 1iu of quality gh with a bunch of crap mixed into it...basically underdosed...
i might try one kit of this...it will take me 3 kits a month to be on nutropin at 3ius a day 5/2 will give me a littler over a month... i guess only way to find out the truth is to spend the money...its gonna cost alot to find out but maybe i will give it a shot...
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how if i reacted diff to it in an hour...but i guess not lol...
im gonna try to find some pharm grade end of story
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I think that would be your best bet.
Did you feel anything after the hour?
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jing jai
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I was on 8iu pinwheel and my igf came back in range at 263 i think. I posted that. They are fake for sure. Seems like the 8iu tops are gtg.
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I'm just gonna bite the bullet and get the pharma grade stuff. There's also the advantage of ussing less iu's. Thank u guys.
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Me and that bad boy PINN-went through this 5 years ago with IGF.Man we blew several thousands to find out it does not work.Pinn impersonated being an Undergraduate PHD student talking to some of the top peptide Specialists in the world.I still have some of the emails.
Its a shame Redbaron does not post anymore here,but I have emailed him on this issue.The MAJORITY of GH out of China is fake. Mostly powdered egg whites,this is fact.
Other problem is even if the HGH is good its quite fragile so when it gets back to you from china it may be useless.
With IGF people thought that they gained muscle,it was water,it acted as a GDA.That is what we gained.IGF was advertised for 1-2 pounds of muscle gain in a month.
The tanning agent melanotan works,no question here,that is quite a complex peptide to produce.
Never tried MFG but that is junk too.
One guy who could solve this Mystery also is DATBTRUE he does not post here (other boards) the guy is a stud.HE IS THE GUY TO GO TO.
But im convinced the HGH I use is legit,but to be 100% its needs to be tested.
Last edited by goose; 08-02-2010 at 11:08 AM.
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He knows an incredible amount about peptides and HGH.
He has helped me tremendously in the past.
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Utter rubbish, unless the gh he sent me is different than what your using.
But your correct it needs testing to be 100% but I can assure you ive had plenty of pharm garde and i know my own body and the Chinese gh is rubbish especially that crap from the guy who you use.
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I have enjoyed your posts here.One of the few great threads that have been produced on this boards for years...
Truly respect your experience here,and agree with your ethos on chinese HGH.Looking forward getting other views on this...The best HGH I have ran is jino 5 years ago,never done proper pharm grade.
I love the HGH I use,so does a few of swifto friends that use the same guy.
IF we can get a few numbers here and combine get something tested-to cut costs would be a great idea.like 50 $ per person would be great.
Last edited by goose; 08-02-2010 at 03:07 PM.
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Why would anyone believe a word you say when you try and protray yourself as someone else?
Those pictures in your album and in your avatar are not you so why would you tell people they are?
Also why would you sell me fake hgh from China?
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^^^^I myself havent used GH as good as those Jin's. The blues and reds didnt even compare and Im on Hyge's right now (8iu tops) and Im not sure what i think. I know Jin's at 5iu's ed gave me terrible sides, I started the Hyge's at 4iu's right from the get go and really havent had any sides yet.
I heard that the red and blues only tested to be 6.1 or so iu's per vial. So if you think they are 10, break down your dosage your probably hardly taking much if any at all. This is my last try with anything generic, I balked right before the Hyges at buying Pharma, I had to try Hyge's one last time before spending that big money.
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The information discussed is strictly for entertainment purposes only.
Everything was impossible until somebody did it!
I've got 99 problems......but my squat/dead ain't one !!
It doesnt matter how good looking she is, some where, some one is tired of her shit.
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I am running the 8iu tops as well, I think they are vastly underdosed. I am currently waiting for a delivery of hypertropin which gensci claim to be overdosed at 12ius per vial and am hopeful that they are true to their word. If they turn out to be underdosed as well then I will go back tp pharm grade and pay the price.
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jing jai
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This is the thing....Ive used pretty much all the Gh's, Jin's, Brown's, Blues (OG),Hyge's (OG), the new Reds, Blues and Hyge's. Now I as ran these in order the sides decreased, I never had the side effects get as bad as the first time. Now one would probably think it's because the quality decreased but I think it my actually be a tolerance has been built up. Its kinda happened with every chemical Ive ever dabbled with........it's just not as good the second or third time......I always seem to say ....man the first time I tried that...wow !!
Now Im sure a lot of those Generics are shit, we would probably be horrified if we knew what we were injecting into ourselves, but I think these 8iu's may be alright. I Seem to be getting some decent results. I think we are to stuck on "sides" being the ruler if something is legit or not. Man back in the day, a few shots of tren and I was the devil !! No sleep, nasty dreams, holy shit!! But now I can run it, after a while it starts to catch up with me, but not like the first few times.
I should be able to see with these Hyge's. This is all Im taking right now so in 3 or so weeks I should really be getting some results. I may even throw in a shot during mid day to get my 3 shots ed in like I did with the Jins, boy I miss being dedicated.
All in all, with Chinese generics there's a very good chance your not getting what you payed for, it's sad, but we are suckers for the taking.
Disclaimer-BG is presenting fictitious opinions and does in no way encourage nor condone the use of any illegal substances.
The information discussed is strictly for entertainment purposes only.
Everything was impossible until somebody did it!
I've got 99 problems......but my squat/dead ain't one !!
It doesnt matter how good looking she is, some where, some one is tired of her shit.
Light travels faster then sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
Great place to start researching ! http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...-database.html
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How long have you been on the Hyge's for?This is the thing....Ive used pretty much all the Gh's, Jin's, Brown's, Blues (OG),Hyge's (OG), the new Reds, Blues and Hyge's. Now I as ran these in order the sides decreased, I never had the side effects get as bad as the first time. Now one would probably think it's because the quality decreased but I think it my actually be a tolerance has been built up. Its kinda happened with every chemical Ive ever dabbled with........it's just not as good the second or third time......I always seem to say ....man the first time I tried that...wow !!
Now Im sure a lot of those Generics are shit, we would probably be horrified if we knew what we were injecting into ourselves, but I think these 8iu's may be alright. I Seem to be getting some decent results. I think we are to stuck on "sides" being the ruler if something is legit or not. Man back in the day, a few shots of tren and I was the devil !! No sleep, nasty dreams, holy shit!! But now I can run it, after a while it starts to catch up with me, but not like the first few times.
I should be able to see with these Hyge's. This is all Im taking right now so in 3 or so weeks I should really be getting some results. I may even throw in a shot during mid day to get my 3 shots ed in like I did with the Jins, boy I miss being dedicated
All in all, with Chinese generics there's a very good chance your not getting what you payed for, it's sad, but we are suckers for the taking.
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jing jai
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Almost a month, so a few more weeks I should definitly be able to tell.
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Everything was impossible until somebody did it!
I've got 99 problems......but my squat/dead ain't one !!
It doesnt matter how good looking she is, some where, some one is tired of her shit.
Light travels faster then sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
Great place to start researching ! http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...-database.html
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I hate to admit this but your prob right dood... Chinese generics are most likely shit. Seems like every other day i read something in the paper, or online about a toxic chinese product. Today I read a warning about health supplements produced in china.The bad thing is that most of us have 500-1000 dollars invested already and it's hard to suck that up. I'm going to finish up the last of mine and move on to another brand. Sucks, but I hate wasting money. Lesson learned for me. I suggest most that everyone else stop going generic too. Who knows what's in those vials.This is the thing....Ive used pretty much all the Gh's, Jin's, Brown's, Blues (OG),Hyge's (OG), the new Reds, Blues and Hyge's. Now I as ran these in order the sides decreased, I never had the side effects get as bad as the first time. Now one would probably think it's because the quality decreased but I think it my actually be a tolerance has been built up. Its kinda happened with every chemical Ive ever dabbled with........it's just not as good the second or third time......I always seem to say ....man the first time I tried that...wow !!
Now Im sure a lot of those Generics are shit, we would probably be horrified if we knew what we were injecting into ourselves, but I think these 8iu's may be alright. I Seem to be getting some decent results. I think we are to stuck on "sides" being the ruler if something is legit or not. Man back in the day, a few shots of tren and I was the devil !! No sleep, nasty dreams, holy shit!! But now I can run it, after a while it starts to catch up with me, but not like the first few times.
I should be able to see with these Hyge's. This is all Im taking right now so in 3 or so weeks I should really be getting some results. I may even throw in a shot during mid day to get my 3 shots ed in like I did with the Jins, boy I miss being dedicated
All in all, with Chinese generics there's a very good chance your not getting what you payed for, it's sad, but we are suckers for the taking.
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