Started my GH today

[zabster151]

i have just started my GH today.. 1iu ed 5 on 2 off 6 months total. ill post pics every week.

[diesel2030]

Good luck and look forward to the updates....I just started 1.5 ed..


age? bodyfat? height/weight?

[ScotchGuard02]

Aren't you 27 and got t'd off at people when they told you not to do HGH? If you're gonna do it, 1iu 5/2 for six months will do very little for you. You're producing almost 2iu/ed naturally. Bump your dosage to 3iu/ed if possible for 6 months and you'll get leaner and see some results.

[DCannon]

^^ agreed. 1iu won't do anything noticeable.

[zabster151]

thanx, i just wanted to get my body used to it for 1 week so week to i will be doing 3iu ed starting week 2 see how i feel,

Aren't you 27 and got t'd off at people when they told you not to do HGH? yes the age thing gets old.

[SlimmerMe]

I am pretty sure that I am the one you are speaking of here as to bringing up your age constantly.

It has been my understanding that HGH is not recommended for anyone in their 20's. Encouraging HGH for anyone in their 20's is not something many want to do here on this site. So if my continual reminding you that you are 27 bothers you, then that is okay. It is no surprise that when you hear what you do not want to hear, then you are bugged.

[zabster151]

omg, steroids are not meant for anyone realistically under the age of 35-40 unless medically needed. we use them anyways in are 20's hgh can be used at any age as long as taken safely

[dec11]

well ppl are only trying to save you money, at 27 you need to be working up to a high dose for benefit. just stick to AAS and wait till your natural GH starts to dwindle, prob mid 30's

[zabster151]

yea i do not mind you guys telling me to up the dosage because of my age but constantly telling me i am to young is annoying,

thank you for caring though i appreciate it.

[SlimmerMe]

omg, steroids are not meant for anyone realistically under the age of 35-40 unless medically needed. we use them anyways in are 20's hgh can be used at any age as long as taken safely

Oh REALLY? Can you back this up? please.....

[zabster151]

since i took that 1iu in the am can i later in the pm take 2iu to make it 3 for the day. or should i wait till morning and start with 3 iu then.

[zabster151]

Oh REALLY? Can you back this up? please.....

well its for kids with dwarfism or other deficiencies. Its for elderly ppl that need to revers effects of aging. so if a young healthy body builder increases his natural hgh levels safely he will increase cell production muscle fiber brain activity. i mean am i totally wrong has everything i have read wrong?

[Sicko]

I have to agree with Zabster, he is 27 years old. he is a grown ass man.. and has asked for suggestions on his gh dose not a lecture on how old you should be to use something that most of use illegally anyways...just saying, he isnt 18 years talking about doing steroids ...

[SlimmerMe]

I have to agree with Zabster, he is 27 years old. he is a grown ass man.. and has asked for suggestions on his gh dose not a lecture on how old you should be to use something that most of use illegally anyways...just saying, he isnt 18 years talking about doing steroids...

I was not lecturing him and am sorry you took it this way. Just because others do it does not merit use. I was merely trying to ere on the side of caution. It is his body. I know this. I also know he is not 18 obviously.

Agree with him all you want to agree with him. Being consistent as in not encouraging anyone in their 20's to take HGH was my intention.

Please note that I have also helped Zabster in other post where he did not mind receiving my help.

[mighty1]

it is very simple. if you look to become a BB, if you look into looking like a BB, the use of gh is a must. you can not look like a BB with out the use of synthetic GH if you are over 32-33.

at ages 18-30 you can still play around with your natural gh but, still, you will not resemble what you see on a stage today without the use of GH.

GH is the main reason for the size you see on a BB. steroids only fill up this size, but you got to have those 230-240 pounds on your 5 foot 9 frame along with sub 12% to begin with and that wont happen without gh.

if you dont use gh for BB purposes then its useless at age 27 or at any age under 40.

[Sicko]

Hey SM,no apology needed,I wasnt directly pointing my post at you..It was just my attempt for someone who is not a new member getting a whole lot of BS..I noticed that quite frequently on this board people ask for advice on one thing and someone takes it to a different level that isnt or wasnt asked for.Then we pounce on that negetiveness like sharks in feeding frenzy completely forgetting what the sole purpose of the OP thread was about.
I am guilty as well, I was simply tring to sideball a flaming session.

[hankdiesel]

omg, steroids are not meant for anyone realistically under the age of 35-40 unless medically needed. we use them anyways in are 20's hgh can be used at any age as long as taken safely

anyone under 40 huh

[inevitable]

I have to disagree with hgh should not be used in 20's. I used gh to help get thru a very very tough time in my life when i had to go to PT and learn how to walk all over again. My recovery was phenomenal from the 3 reconstructive surgeries and can definitely tell a difference when im on it. Granted i did 2iu's every morning just for healing purposes but it did have a big impact on my body. Now 3iu's is definitely going to give a better "well-being" feeling but if I was you, I would run atleast 4iu's with a minimum of 6 months... blast 4iu's in the morning followed by cjc-1293 mod grf1-29/ghrp-2,6 or ipamorelin 100mcg/100mcg 2x day (pwo and pre bed). This in turn will help with the negative feedback loop (depending when u inject the rhgh) from the exo hgh and the peptides will insure that your own body is pumping it out naturally as well.

[GirlyGymRat]

Most the world is free and zab is free to do what he wants....I am not clear on zabs goals and IMHO, there are other things to take that are a ton cheaper and probably more effective. It would be interesting to see what kind of input zab was to get if he posted his goals and current stats in a different section of Steroid forums. Good luck!

[inevitable]

hgh is cheap now a days..

[zabster151]

27 yrs old
181 lb
5'6
11 yrs
no pump for the pics, goal 215 lean my bench currently is around 375 squat around 5's and dead's 465

[SlimmerMe]

Looking pretty darn good.....and also look like a funny guy with a sense of humor!
(love the alcohol in the background.... hmmmm....wonder why that is out?)

[zabster151]

lol, just brought my slin's up stairs forgot the alcohol

thanx for complement

[zabster151]

so i guess ill sit at 3iu 1.5 am and pm for 1 week then bump to 2am and 2pm sound good

[SlimmerMe]

why PM? when? bed?

[zabster151]

7:30 am and 10:00pm

no good?

[inevitable]

At the latest pin 4hrs before you go to bed. Any later and the negative feedback loop comes into effect.

[SlimmerMe]

skip the PM.....
PM dosing is for anti-aging. Again, it comes back to the age. Since you are not elderly, then you need to stay away from nighttime dosing. Reason being is because your natural growth pulse happens the first couple of hours of sleep and even if you are not in bed, growth hormone peaks naturally between 10pm-2am because of the circadian rhythm.

So if you pin near bedtime, many adhere to the possibility of a negative feedback. In essence this means that you get used to the synthetic gh thus potentially shutting down your own growth pulse hence messing with your endocrine system. So night dosing is clearly not advised for those Especially in their 20's.

Have you read the educational thread by RedBaron?

[GirlyGymRat]

Zab...looking good. I am doing 4 - 5 iu 5/2 and pin all one dose in the wee hours of the am..sometime between 3 and 4 am and then back to bed for an hour or so. This keeps me clear of eating no carbs for an hour before (obviously I am sleeping) and after, cuz I take breakfast not before 630.

[zabster151]

thanx slim ill stick with the am only

[zabster151]

whats the between 5 on 2 off and 6 on 1 off is it just to let your natural gh stay balanced?

[SlimmerMe]

^^^mostly financial...some however think the off days will trigger your natural growth pulse not to rely on ED....
but mainly for cost

[GirlyGymRat]

yeah, i thought it is was for natural growth release...so perhaps I should every day....

[SlimmerMe]

thanx slim ill stick with the am only

Glad to hear this. You are welcome.

[SlimmerMe]

yeah, i thought it is was for natural growth release...so perhaps I should every day....

keep in mind some people do adhere to this
however the overwhelming majority here pins 5/2 for cost reasons

[dec11]

Hey SM,no apology needed,I wasnt directly pointing my post at you..It was just my attempt for someone who is not a new member getting a whole lot of BS..I noticed that quite frequently on this board people ask for advice on one thing and someone takes it to a different level that isnt or wasnt asked for.Then we pounce on that negetiveness like sharks in feeding frenzy completely forgetting what the sole purpose of the OP thread was about.
I am guilty as well, I was simply tring to sideball a flaming session.

maybe you should read every post carefully before jumping on the guardian angel bandwagon, according to the OP steroids arent meant for ppl under 40?! we are trying to guide someone who obviously is not equiped with all the facts. and judging by the pic he's put up, he doesnt need hgh, save it for later life imo

[dec11]

it is very simple. if you look to become a BB, if you look into looking like a BB, the use of gh is a must. you can not look like a BB with out the use of synthetic GH if you are over 32-33.
at ages 18-30 you can still play around with your natural gh but, still, you will not resemble what you see on a stage today without the use of GH.

GH is the main reason for the size you see on a BB. steroids only fill up this size, but you got to have those 230-240 pounds on your 5 foot 9 frame along with sub 12% to begin with and that wont happen without gh.

if you dont use gh for BB purposes then its useless at age 27 or at any age under 40.

will you please drop the bullshit, you claimed in another post to be 'the most experienced BB'er on here' you post mis-guiding rubbish, i can asure you you arent the most experienced if your posts are anything to go by

[zabster151]

why judging by my pics would i not need hgh, just curious?

i eat 5,000 cal ed i work out 5 days a week have been for 11yrs i feel i am pretty strong for my size. i think this will help with getting bigger in a whole no?
and so far after 5 days i have great recovery. not sore on bit and my appetite has gone through the roof

my future goals are to be in the 200's benching in the 5's like i said my squat is good i know i could add 200lb more in future and same with dead

and i am not expecting that in months i am doing hgh to help me get closer to that goal
i will also be adding anadrol , deca and test in about 2 months running a 12 week cycle with the gh, anadrol for only 4 weeks

[SlimmerMe]

^^^ wondered the same thing "based on your photos"

[dec11]

why judging by my pics would i not need hgh, just curious?

i eat 5,000 cal ed i work out 5 days a week have been for 11yrs i feel i am pretty strong for my size. i think this will help with getting bigger in a whole no?
and so far after 5 days i have great recovery. not sore on bit and my appetite has gone through the roof

my future goals are to be in the 200's benching in the 5's like i said my squat is good i know i could add 200lb more in future and same with dead

and i am not expecting that in months i am doing hgh to help me get closer to that goal
i will also be adding anadrol , deca and test in about 2 months running a 12 week cycle with the gh, anadrol for only 4 weeks

you have attained a great build, why not just continue with your cycling and wait a few years before taking the gh? you need to take quite alot at your age for good effect according to what ive been advised/read up on. up 2 either way