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12-03-2010, 03:22 PM #1New Member
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IGF Reconstitution screwup: Opinions/help
To all,
Did a search throughout with the various ways to reconstitute IGF-1/2 and have been successful in the past Using AA 6% water down to .6% with Sterile Water. Now, I have recently made the mistake since I restarted IGF-1&2 combo about a week ago or so (last time I used was May) when in my absent mindedness used straight 6% AA without watering it down like the last time (do not know where my mind went!). The other big difference I changed this time around was that instead of reconstituting it down further (like in Palumbo's tutorial) I just left the AA (2ml per vial) in the vials and would just dilute with BW or Sodium Chloride prior to shooting SQ. I figured for each IU of IGF in AA I diluted about 10IU's of BW or NaCL in the Insulin syringe. The findings/questions are as follows:
1.) after 7 days of shooting IGF 1/2 did I realize I screwed up on the AA being 6% and forgetting to dilute it to 0.6% -> I still felt the effects of the IGF 1/2 this whole time, even during the time I did not know I screwed up.
Which raises my first question as to the 6% AA (which is similar to White Vinegar) I believe did not destroy the IGF peptides which I had previously would have thought.
2.) I have since then re-diluted each vial with a 3:1 ratio of NaCL:AA, the effects I believe so far are still there, I dont use much more dilutants prior to shooting with much less sting (although even prior the sting was not too bad), and the slight lethargy/tiredness with a decent pump is still noticeable (I am only doing about 20-25 mcgs per IGF now, planning on bringing it down to 20-25 mcgs combined starting tomorrow as per DAT's recommendation.
So in conclusion I screwed up big-time, in a sense Im glad I caught it early, after looking up various sources for harmful effects of 6% AA I could only find the same mild irritation to mucus membranes and such, but nothing too crazy.
Is the belief also still valid for Bac Stac water over NaCL as far as further reconstitution for IGF or will degrade it at a much faster pace? lastly I for one at least in this experience my IGF has held some/most of its potency regardless of the fact I initially reconstituted it in pure 6% instead of my original 0.6% AA/Sterile water. Thanks all for your time,any help or input would be appreciated.
Ray
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PS to the PS: Just wanna say hi to the board and all the board memebers who still may remember me, still around and its almost been 7-8 years..
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12-03-2010, 04:25 PM #2Associate Member
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Hmmm. Good question. 6% is such a high concentration when compaired to .06% and with this peptide being so delicate I wonder how the aa will affect it. And I believe the white vinegar is actually 11% not 6%. Did you use the white vinegar method? Seems like that would really burn considering it immediately stings at .06%. I personally would not have used it with that concentration but if it dosent botheryou and you are still feeling the effects than maybe it's ok
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12-03-2010, 05:23 PM #3New Member
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its not white vinegar, rther its AA from a science company @ 6%. Still feeling effect now as we speak. Gonna ramp down to 20-25mcg tomm combined because I still feel tired throughout the day @ 40-45mcgs combined.
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12-03-2010, 05:45 PM #4Associate Member
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Well it sounds like it's working and with using in past I'm sure you know what to expect. Good luck to you. I think you may be right that it may just cause irritation.
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