Dazed and confused !!!!!!!!

**TheBig2na** · 12-08-2010, 10:37 AM

Just got these vials, wondering if you guys think they might possibly be fake. Hard to find pictures to compare them to.

Are these really 12mg or 13.8mg?

Also, how much BW do I mix it with?

My homie tells me to put in 2ml, this only gives me 20 iu. How can I get the 36 iu that says on the vial?
Hard to know how much you are taking this way.

Been trying to search for answers but I end up just getting more confused.

Forgive my ignorance in advance, I might just be retarded.

**DCannon** · 12-08-2010, 10:51 AM

IU is just a unit of measurement. No matter how much BW you add you have 36iu in the vial.

1ml of BW will give you 36iu/ml
2ml of BW will give you 18iu/ml and so on.

**DCannon** · 12-08-2010, 10:53 AM

How does the hgh look in the vial? From the pics it looks pretty dusty. Is it in a puck at the bottom?

**TheBig2na** · 12-08-2010, 11:17 AM

It looked better before I shook it up some. Also the guy had it in the fridge and I only refrigerate it after reconstitution.

Sorry for this but, I have a half cc, short needle syringe that says 50 iu and is measured in 10 iu increments.
Considering I put in 2ml of water, in order to get 1 iu out do I fill it to the 10 mark or less?

(I don't know why I can't get this, it's rattling my puny brain)

**SlimmerMe** · 12-08-2010, 11:27 AM

this thread is the best thing you can read! and includes some of what you are wondering about

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...one-interested

**DCannon** · 12-08-2010, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by TheBig2na

It looked better before I shook it up some. Also the guy had it in the fridge and I only refrigerate it after reconstitution.

Sorry for this but, I have a half cc, short needle syringe that says 50 iu and is measured in 10 iu increments.
Considering I put in 2ml of water, in order to get 1 iu out do I fill it to the 10 mark or less?

(I don't know why I can't get this, it's rattling my puny brain)

First off, NEVER shake the hgh, it is very fragile. You might have ruined it.

The 50iu on your syringe refers to insulin so don't worry about that number.

Think of each 10 mark as 0.1ml instead.

So now it's math time.

If you have 36iu in you vial and you add 1.8ml(it will make everything easier than 2ml) you now have 20iu/ml.
So if you want 2iu you would draw up to the 10mark.

Clear as mud now?

**TheBig2na** · 12-08-2010, 01:19 PM

Mud is what I needed, crystal clear now. Thank you much.......

Also did not know about the shaking thing, I'll definitely be more careful from now on. GOOD INFO

Appreciate your patience............

**TheBig2na** · 12-08-2010, 01:25 PM

Read it, good stuff. Bit technical for me, opened up more questions than answers. Just me I guess.....

Thank you for the response.......

**DCannon** · 12-08-2010, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by TheBig2na

Mud is what I needed, crystal clear now. Thank you much.......

Also did not know about the shaking thing, I'll definitely be more careful from now on. GOOD INFO

Appreciate your patience............

No problem.

Since you didn't know about how fragile hgh is, I should tell you that you have to add the BW slowly. DO NOT squirt it right on the hgh, instead let it drip slowly down the side of the vial. Do this by tilting the vial as you add the BW.

**TheBig2na** · 12-09-2010, 12:50 PM

Thanks, you are right, I did not know that.
By the way, by ruined did you mean that I might have rendered it completely useless or just less potent?

**DCannon** · 12-09-2010, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by TheBig2na

Thanks, you are right, I did not know that.
By the way, by ruined did you mean that I might have rendered it completely useless or just less potent?

It's hard to tell but just remember hgh is very fragile.

**BigCat1978** · 01-08-2011, 04:41 AM

Hi - I have a ton of vials of EXACTLY this stuff. Same as your photo's. Sorry to say this but I think this is fake. I trawled the net and found posters on other forums indicting this was fake - photo's of the same vials - Pharmacia with GH inthe same state. I also recieved this in the same state - i.e. not in a puck at the bottom of the vial but broken and all over the place in the vial. To me I'm going to bin it and luckily have another source who can provide legit stuff now from India. Sorry bro.

**JimInAK** · 01-08-2011, 09:31 AM

If you want to know whether you HGH is genuine, the best way to tell is an IGF-1 blood test. You can get this test done for a little less than $100 per test.

The best way to tell is to do a test before taking any HGH, to establish your baseline IGF-1 level. The after taking HGH for 3 to 4 weeks you can take another test and see how much you IGF-1 level has increased.

A rule of thumb is that for every 1iu/day dose, your IGF-1 should increase about 100ng/ml. So if you're doing 4iu/day, then your IGF-1 should increase between 300 and 500 ng/ml.

My personal experience with the IGF-1 testing was this. My initial baseline test was at about 158 ng/ml. Next I did a test after 4 daily doses and my IGF-1 level at that time increase about 20%, in the 190 range. When I did my final test, I screwed up and withheld the fact I was doing HGH (I did not want to disclose my use of HGH, I wanted them to tell me and I was unaware of the choices they make for IGF-1 test scales, based on my disclosure). They gave me the standard test for my age bracket (50 at the time) and the test topped out at 300 ng/ml, so my result was 300+, along with a note reminding me that I did not inform them I was on HRT, so they gave me the standard test for my age bracket... and my IGF-1 level was on the high side of the norm.

A couple of IGF-1 blood tests should provide some answers...