I need some exact numbers

**Newyorkrockstar** · 12-08-2010, 07:14 PM

Ok I'm done with the humatrope and since it was a cartridge it was simple to mix... Time to compare to serono I have 6mg vials have my bac. Water have my 22 gauge 1 inch 3ml syringe ... I need exact numbers n how do I do this exactly researched so far n found out to let the water drip down the inside side of vial for example... N how long till I can use it ... Please advise thanks

**DCannon** · 12-08-2010, 09:24 PM

First off, 22ga 1" 3ml syringe is WAY too big. All you need is an insulin pin because you'll only be injecting about 0.2ml each time. Pretty hard to measure that on a 3ml syringe.

**ScotchGuard02** · 12-08-2010, 09:53 PM

Are you using 22ga 3ml to transfer BW from vial to vial or are you using to shoot HGH?

**Newyorkrockstar** · 12-09-2010, 06:13 AM

Originally Posted by DCannon

First off, 22ga 1" 3ml syringe is WAY too big. All you need is an insulin pin because you'll only be injecting about 0.2ml each time. Pretty hard to measure that on a 3ml syringe.

Lol so your assuming I'm going to stick myself with a 1 inch needle of hgh?lol it's to transfer the bw into the 6mg vial how much bw do I suck into the 22 gauge pin how many c.c's? And how much would each I.U measure to be?

**Newyorkrockstar** · 12-09-2010, 06:14 AM

Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02;54****7

Are you using 22ga 3ml to transfer BW from vial to vial or are you using to shoot HGH?

Bingoooooo

**DCannon** · 12-09-2010, 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by Newyorkrockstar

Lol so your assuming I'm going to stick myself with a 1 inch needle of hgh?lol it's to transfer the bw into the 6mg vial how much bw do I suck into the 22 gauge pin how many c.c's? And how much would each I.U measure to be?

That's what I figured but you didn't mention having any slin pins.

6mg = 16.2iu

I'd add 1.6ml to the vial that way for every 0.1ml you have approximatly 1iu

**Newyorkrockstar** · 12-09-2010, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by DCannon

That's what I figured but you didn't mention having any slin pins.

6mg = 16.2iu

I'd add 1.6ml to the vial that way for every 0.1ml you have approximatly 1iu

thank you so much.. =)

**Newyorkrockstar** · 12-09-2010, 09:38 AM

oh one more thing the slin pin has 10 20 etc.. so how much is 1i.u on the slin pin?

**Newyorkrockstar** · 12-09-2010, 09:48 AM

wait unless my calculation is off its 18i.u

**DCannon** · 12-09-2010, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by Newyorkrockstar

wait unless my calculation is off its 18i.u

Most people round up to 18 but it's actually 16.2

**DCannon** · 12-09-2010, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by Newyorkrockstar

oh one more thing the slin pin has 10 20 etc.. so how much is 1i.u on the slin pin?

The 10mark is 0.1ml so that would be 1iu if you add 1.6ml of BW

**Newyorkrockstar** · 12-09-2010, 10:17 AM

ok thank you brother

**lifeforce0019** · 12-09-2010, 10:53 AM

You should consider using bacteriostatic 0.9% saline for increased stability of the hgh rather than water! All pharma grade hgh (I use tev-tropin) comes with 0.9% saline for reconstitution. Just my two cents - - -

**Newyorkrockstar** · 12-09-2010, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by lifeforce0019

You should consider using bacteriostatic 0.9% saline for increased stability of the hgh rather than water! All pharma grade hgh (I use tev-tropin) comes with 0.9% saline for reconstitution. Just my two cents - - -

i was going to use vitamin water..,. no good?

**DCannon** · 12-09-2010, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by Newyorkrockstar

i was going to use vitamin water..,. no good?

I usually reconstitute with Pepsi, it makes my hgh taste better when I drink it.

**Newyorkrockstar** · 12-09-2010, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by DCannon

I usually reconstitute with Pepsi, it makes my hgh taste better when I drink it.

hmmm interesting .. i must try this with my next vial... oh one more thing i heard that injecting back of arm and delts in an angle is better, even heard that doc who do NOT suggest injecting around the stomach????? is this true

**DCannon** · 12-09-2010, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by Newyorkrockstar

hmmm interesting .. i must try this with my next vial... oh one more thing i heard that injecting back of arm and delts in an angle is better, even heard that doc who do NOT suggest injecting around the stomach????? is this true

Lately I've been injecting in my tris and delts. Who is the doc suggesting to not inject around the stomach?

**Newyorkrockstar** · 12-09-2010, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by DCannon

Lately I've been injecting in my tris and delts. Who is the doc suggesting to not inject around the stomach?

from the web just from researching... so whats better?

**ScotchGuard02** · 12-09-2010, 12:19 PM

There are basically two ways to inject HGH. Intra-muscular (IM) and subcutaneous (SubQ). They both work but I like subQ better, personal choice. You should inject subQ when injecting on the belly. Keep at least 1" away from your belly button. For IM you can stick almost any body part. I like quads, delts chest, and even biceps. Doesn't really matter. Injecting IM in the belly is not a good idea. Too many capillaries around the belly button. So go subQ near belly IM everywhere else.

**Newyorkrockstar** · 12-09-2010, 07:09 PM

Ok so everyone and everywhere I search is saying 6mg is 18 I.Us ... How did you get 16.2 what is your sources

**DCannon** · 12-09-2010, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by Newyorkrockstar

Ok so everyone and everywhere I search is saying 6mg is 18 I.Us ... How did you get 16.2 what is your sources

1mg=2.7iu

but most people round up to 3iu

**SlimmerMe** · 12-09-2010, 10:32 PM

i was hoping you would come in DCannon. I looked at my previous post ( from another thread) but thought better if you said it!

**DCannon** · 12-09-2010, 10:40 PM

Here's some info from a page about hgh. I posted the link to the page as well. These couple sentences are from the last paragraph on the page.

It is noted that for the U.S.-American growth hormones compounds, the substance content is not given in IU(International Units) but in mg (milligrams). Since 1 mg corresponds to exactly 2.7 IU the 5 mg solution of the compound Humatrope by Lilly contains exactl 13.5 IU of Somatropin.

http://www.anabolicsteroidsguide.com...files/hgh.html

**DCannon** · 12-09-2010, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by SlimmerMe

i was hoping you would come in DCannon. I looked at my previous post ( from another thread) but thought better if you said it!

Yeah, I don't think a lot of people realize it's only 2.7iu/mg

**Newyorkrockstar** · 12-10-2010, 07:18 AM

Very thankful for some real exact numbers. Thank you DCannon.. Your the man .. and that pepsi does make the hgh taste better lol

**DCannon** · 12-10-2010, 08:48 AM

No problem Newyork. That's why we're all here, to help each other out.

**Newyorkrockstar** · 12-10-2010, 06:35 PM

Ok Im being a pain but I want to make sure... Since I put 1.6 ml of bw doesn't that mean on the slin the first 10 is 1.6 I.u??? I feel like Im missing something maybe my brain I just don't get it I'm sorry ( btw I have a 30gauge 1 ml long slin )

**Newyorkrockstar** · 12-10-2010, 06:41 PM

If I pulled the whole vial into the slin makes 1ml and 16.2i.us , if you work your way backwards it adds up to the 10 mark being 1.6 ... Right?

**DCannon** · 12-10-2010, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by Newyorkrockstar

If I pulled the whole vial into the slin makes 1ml and 16.2i.us , if you work your way backwards it adds up to the 10 mark being 1.6 ... Right?

You wouldn't be drawing up the whole 16.2iu with 1ml because you're adding 1.6ml. If you draw up 1ml you'll have 10iu, if you work your way backwards it adds up to the 10 mark being 1iu.

**Newyorkrockstar** · 12-10-2010, 10:16 PM

Ok had to triple check I'll be doing my first shot tom morn of serono humatrope was done today.... I just didn't want to do too much of the new brand seeing it would hit me diff ... Oh and is it true what they say that serono is less potent then humatrope

**DCannon** · 12-10-2010, 11:34 PM

I'm not sure of the difference, if any, between the two.

**Newyorkrockstar** · 12-11-2010, 07:01 AM

Ok did the first serono shot thru a slin pin I'm so used to the pen but it looked so much more solution I had to shoot in .. Maybe because the cartridge is wider?

Ps my slin the numbers go up to 100 .. 10 20 30 40 50 60.. Etc to 100.... Does that change anything?

**SlimmerMe** · 12-11-2010, 10:34 AM

nope....just means.....1 unit, 2 units, 3 units,..... on up to 10 units

**Newyorkrockstar** · 12-11-2010, 10:54 AM

Ok btw how long do you guys wait to eat after the shot in the a.m

**SlimmerMe** · 12-11-2010, 11:09 AM

wait at least an hour before eating...especially carbs. However there is member here who might disagree. But most here abide by this.

**Newyorkrockstar** · 12-11-2010, 12:18 PM

I've only waited 30mins and have a shake with carb powder after

**SlimmerMe** · 12-11-2010, 12:25 PM

are you not doing the wee hours of the morning pin? where you get up, pin, and then go back to bed?

**Newyorkrockstar** · 12-12-2010, 12:41 PM

I always thought not to pin and then sleep at night but am I allowed to do it wee hours n go back to bed...?

**SlimmerMe** · 12-12-2010, 12:45 PM

Wee hours are preferred. Like around 4-6 am and then back to bed for a couple/few hours. OR right when you get up. This also helps to blunt cortisol which is usually higher in the AM.