Thread: Hgh advice needed
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12-20-2010, 07:41 AM #1New Member
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Hgh advice needed
27yr old male, 5'7", 185lbs, been working out for about 12yrs
goal: to put on 15 or more lbs of muscle without loosing my hair.
first off ill start by saying im a newbie and iv never done a cylce before. from talking with friends that are on gear and from research, iv decided to do a 7 month cycle of hgh (KeFei Biotech "blue tops" is what i have). i picked hgh mainly because alot of anabolics are DHT derived and i dont want to loose my hair and bc ppl say that hgh produces good quality muscle that sticks around with less sides effects. i know it sounds stupid but i like my hair and there is MPB in my family so the longer i can keep it the better lol. but the more i read about hgh, the more confused i get on how to take it. and alot of the threads i find are guys that are 40+ or ppl that want to use it as a cutter. so i was hoping some of u vets could help me out bc i want to do it safe and right. my plan was to do it like this:
week 1: 1.5 IUs
week 2: 2 IUs
week 3: 2.5 IUs
week 4: 3 IUs
week 5: 3.5 IUs
week 6: 4 IUs
(week 1-6 injected 7 days a week bc it takes about 2 moths to get the body used to it, and take it when i wake up, and when the injections get over 3 IUs split it in half. one in the morn, one in the early afternoon)
week 7-30+, 4 IUs every other day so it dosnt shut down my bodies natural production of hg (2 IUs in the morning, 2IUs early afternoon)
what do u guys think? iv heard of ppl taking it every day, every other day, 5 days on 2 days off. whats the best? should i take anything else with it like 100mcg of T4?. i was thinking about taking 400mg of deca with 200mg of test for the first 2 months to kind of bulk up b4 the hgh really kicks. but then i read that deca can cause hair loss and today i just read a thread that a guy (bjpennnn) is sheading from hgh! can hgh cause or speed up hair loss? i thought it helps hair growth?. any advice, experiences, or sides u guys have had would be very appreciated. and u guys were all newbies at some point to so go easy on me lol. thanks
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12-20-2010, 04:05 PM #2
Welcome. You seem to have done some research. The only thing I wish is that you would wait just a couple more years.
Your ramp up seems fine raising .5 every week.
As far as every other day (eod) or 5 on 2 off, this is up to you as to how you want to stretch it out. Usually this is for economic reasons although some do adhere to letting your own pulse rev back up with the off days to avoid messing with your own pulse.
Have you read this thread by Red Baron?
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...one-interested
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i lift every day with weekends off sometimes i take wensdyas off and go on saturday. what problems can i run into with taking m-drol or a product like it now?
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12-21-2010, 03:30 AM #4
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12-21-2010, 08:44 AM #5New Member
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lol i was thinking the same thing. but i have read that thread by red baron and its great! i still read over it once n awhile. so do u think there is any risk or problems i might come across taking hgh at 27 opposed to when im 30? i thought late 20s is ok but anyone under 25 should sty away just incase there growth plaits are still open. i was only thinking about taking 4IUs or maybe 5 at max. and have u heard of any one loosing hair or getting gyno from hgh? should i take nolvadex and t4 just incase? thanks for replying by the way
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12-21-2010, 12:14 PM #6
Glad you read Red Baron's thread.
here is the deal. At 27 you already have so much growth hormone that it is really not worth it at this age plus the fact that taking hgh can possibly effect your endocrine system. What "could" happen is you develop a negative feedback loop. This means that you start to rely on the synthetic growth hormone and then later down the road when you go off the HGH, you do not have the same amount of growth production you had before you started. This is one big reason people advise people under 30 not to do it. Not worth messing around with a "good thing" while you have it already. Flaunt what you have!
This is the time to build a natural base. You can go much further if you do this. Then when your gh starts to lower, then go for the goods.
Have you seen the Transformational Challenge or heard of it?
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12-22-2010, 01:11 AM #7
Deca and Test swings your estrogen unless you taking an AI. The estrogen swing tends to bring on bad side effects like acne and hair loss. I've not read too many posts where HGH thins hair. HGH works on a different glandular system then Test or Deca. I suppose it's possible that people can lose hair with HGH. In my personal use, I haven't had any hair loss. When I was on Test I grew hair in weird places, like on my belly. Now I look like my cat's sleeping on my tummy. LOL If you've been training for 12 years you've probably maxed out your natural potential. Since hair loss generally permanent and not reversible I'm hesitant to recommend Test. Practically every AAS you take should be stacked with Test, generally speaking. I've been on straight HGH for some time now. I don't look ripped and pumped like when I was on AAS + HGH but I'm lean and feel strong. If you don't to take a chance losing hair for muscles, I'd stay away from Test and Deca. What about an Anavar cycle? Anavar doesn't amortize so little estrogen imbalance. Anavar does work better when stacked with Test. Back to that Test again. If you go on an Anavar + Test Prop cycle you can stop at the first sign of hair loss. The Test Prop will be out of your system in a few day and the Anavar only takes hours. Same with HGH.
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12-24-2010, 11:50 AM #8New Member
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iv thought about doing a cycle of 50-80mg/day of anavar with with a DHT blocking shampoo, but it being a DHT derivative scared me off. as for what SlimmerMe said about the hgh, the "negative feedback loop" is exactly what im scared about. i want to take hgh for all the benefits it has, but i dont want it to mess with my natural production of it when im done the cycle and down the road. this is why i was going to take it every other day. that way its working in conjunction with my bodies natural hgh. is there anyway to avoid the negative feedback loop or is it just one of those things that might or might not happen? men in there 20s are full of testosterone and when they take juice they get testicular atrophy. but as soon as they get off the juice it goes away (as long as there not on it for years on end and abuse what there taking). i thought this would be the same for hgh. keep in mind im only looking to take it for 7-9 months.
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12-24-2010, 12:15 PM #9New Member
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let me tell u. u will get alot of pounds of doing this. but it depends where u get dem from. there is a site, EDIT and thousands of people buy from dem everyday. by da way they are cheap. i've been buying from them over 4 years. if u do buy from them, tell them on the comment that Abiola referred u.
Last edited by PT; 12-25-2010 at 05:22 AM. Reason: Scammer site
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12-24-2010, 12:35 PM #10
Hey freshkid25!.....better edit your post and take out the website...this is not allowed! thanks
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12-27-2010, 10:50 AM #11New Member
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anyone else out there have anymore advice? i think i should be safe taking it in my late 20's, EOD and for only 7-9 month but u guys have been in the game alot longer than me. im really want to get started but i want to do it right and safe.
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