Thinking about taking HGH. Need Advice

[pinktaco]

Hey everyone,
I don't want to take HGH to get ripped. I want to take it to feel good and young again. I am 30 years old. I recently got my hormone and testosterone level check out. They are normal. I think test level is low 442.
DR said if I wanted to do hgh. I should do .2 to .3 ui a day.
So before I start I wanted to ask for opinion/advice.
What are do's and don't?
What side effect should I expect? What side effects did you encounter?

any help would be appreciated.

thanks!

[pinktaco]

Also Dr wont give me prescription because I don't have a condition.
I have ni energy, sex drive and feel depressed as of lately.
I've wonderful research on gh and want your input.

[SlimmerMe]

hi and Welcome to the HGH forum.
First of all, did you get your IGF-1 level tested? this will help to determine why you think you might need hgh or not. At 30 I agree you should have a lot of energy but depression could be from something else entirely.

And nobody here will offer a place as to where to get hgh. And as a matter of fact, please edit that question from your post because it is not allowed and could get you into trouble.

Please let us know more about you. And keep hanging out and learning!

[pinktaco]

Thanks! I have the results in front of me and I don't see igf-1 in it.
I am 5'10 155lbs and I would also maybe like to gain some lbs. I am perfectly healthy otherwise.

[SlimmerMe]

I bet you need to eat more! Are you eating what would be considered to be food to help you gain? Do you want the hgh for this? or for depression/sex drive/energy?.....what is the real reason.....come forth! I will not bite......

[pinktaco]

Lol I want gh for sex drive/energy/depression and to gain lbs. That's the real reason.
I am a vegetarian and have fast metabolism. So its hard for me to gain lbs.

[SlimmerMe]

You need meat! and also need to go to the "Diet Questions" forum and get the guys there to set your diet straight with or without meat.....either way I bet you are not eating enough of the right food to gain.....

and sex? that is testosterone or interest. Depression? that is another question and probably too long of a story I bet. And energy? the right food helps there too....and exercise.....so.....are you going to go to the Diet forum?

[pinktaco]

I haven't worked out in few months because of energy.
I eat 3 to 4 times a day. Lot of carbs. I do need to eat good.
sex drive has Just gone down over the years. No idea why maybe related to depression.
Also I have sleeping problem. I cant sleep.
I will check out diet forum. I had good diet before when I use to work out. I guess I need better one
I still want to give gh a try.
thanks for your help!

[SlimmerMe]

there is an issue here: no energy yet you cannot sleep....
are you wired up at night? do you get a second wind?

[pinktaco]

Not wired.for some reason I can't sleep. Even if I get 5 hours of sleep. It could be related to depression.
Do You think .2 or .3 ui a day is good?

[SlimmerMe]

Are you planning on a script or what? and you are 30?

[pinktaco]

I am planning on buying it online. My Dr didn't give prescription. He said he can't.
yes I am 30.

[SlimmerMe]

Well be careful about getting it online. I hesitate to suggest what to do. I just do not see what the rush is if you have not learned to eat or train correctly first.

And you mention you want to take HGH to feel young again. You are young. And unless something is really really off medically with you, then feeling young is both physical and mental. I know some young 80 year olds and some old 18 year olds. So....I feel there is something else driving this and until you "search within" for why, then hgh will not be the magic pill. It is not a get rich quick thing. It takes awhile. Please...what is your REAL reason......

[pinktaco]

I see your point and I've told you my real reason. Being 100% honest.
I guess I am looking easy way but I will need to work hard. I am looking for little edge by taking gh I guess.
Thanks for your help again.

[SlimmerMe]

thanks...i hear ya...
and I do think you are looking for the easy way; wish that way existed! When it does, let me know!

A better "edge" would be to eat right and I know I am repeating myself but this is the truth. I came here in the beginning to do just the opposite of you. I wanted to lose weight. But I found this out: it is ALL about diet. I too was looking for the easy way out and that did not happen!

I hope to see a new thread by you in the Diet Question forum!.......

and to answer your original question re: sides.....
potential sides: fatique, headaches, carpel tunnel, bloat, and .........great sleep.....NOW I LOST MY CASE! LOL

[GH consumer]

I beleive in the right solution for the right problem.

You need to find out exactly why you have symptoms you have.

Answering the question 'why' often presents a solution to the problem.

Low test? Get test. Low IGF-1, get HGH, bad diet? improve diet, bad selfimage? work on yourself from inside etc.

Taking Gh might help you and in lower doses will not hurt but it may mask a real problem underneath that is not being addressed.

Depression, not gaining weight and low sex drive are all signs of things going on underneath.

GH can mask those and make you feel pretty good but you lose the chance to find out the real problem and deal with it.

When you have dealth with your problem this way you can always add GH and feel and look all that much better because all the process in your body are running as supposed. GH will be a good extra and not just an aspirine for the symptoms

So its not about wanting to work hard or do it the easy way. Its about solving a potentialy serious problem that can escalate in the future.

Good luck

[ScotchGuard02]

A lot of the hormones in your body are triggered by food. Low sex drive, low energy, etc. could be diet related. Instead of going right to HGH why don't you try protein supplementation, antioxidant & multivitamins. It's hard to get enough protein if you don't eat meat. Protein in the body will trigger a number of hormones in your body. Check your diet for a few months and see how you feel. I would not recommend you start synthetic HGH because you have low energy.

[GH consumer]

Check your diet for a few months and see how you feel.

I reccomend before taking any route to do a exhaustive and complete bodycheck to make sure what the best solution is.

Eating good foods is always good and should be always practised.

In this case it is not certain he has any lack of vitamins etc.

Therefore the best solution may not be having a perfect diet.

Upping vitamins and eating perfect food for 6 months and after finding out that his thyroid, testosterone levels or mental state is the cause will only prolong the problem and suffering for those six months, as well as put him in the situation where he will have hope of improving by eating perfect foods while the real reason may be something else.

Once again, before putting your hope, time, health and money on just 1 thing (even if good by itself may not be the solution for your specific problem), make sure that you know what you have and what the best way to solve it is.

[Times Roman]

yer 30 and want to feel young again?!

ouch!

[GH consumer]

yer 30 and want to feel young again?!

ouch!

What is wrong with that?

From the look of his symptoms there is a real reason behind this, meaning a real medical reason he is feeling a lot worse then he should.

It is very immature to presume he is a 100% healthy 30 year old and just being a little wussy and feeling sad and bad.

If a 23 year old comes to the doctor with chest pains the doc, if stupid, can laugh and say 'you are so young, you are fine' or check the man for any real causes of symptoms and the procees to help the person.

All and any symptoms can occure at any age. This has nothing to do with personal feelings or choice of the person.

Example: I broke my leg when I was 17. The doc didn't laugh and say young people don't break their legs. He helped my because despite age the problem was real.

In his case there are probably some real problems which are coming out as symptoms of old age.

He is not old therefore it is that much more important to look for the real cause

Young men, by nature, don't complain out of free will about their energy, mental state or sex drive. When you have it you just have fun with it and use it, when you don't have it we all complain as we should

[jla1986]

I would say diet too. Your missing out on alot of vitamins and minnerals not eating meat. Low iron can cause lack of energy. Get on the diet forum and check it out.

[SlimmerMe]

Did your doctor say your thyroid, cortisol and adrenal levels were good? If any of these are off, then fatigue and depression can occur. Do you have this blood work?

[pinktaco]

Thanks everyone!
I am now going to hold off doing hgh. I will change my diet and see how it goes. I take vitamins,amino and omega 3 everyday.
Don't get me wrong at age 30 I do feel young but I want to feel younger. Over the years my energy level and sex drive has gone down little. You guys think my test level of 442 is low? It is in normal range of 300 to 1030. It just seems low to me.

[pinktaco]

Did your doctor say your thyroid, cortisol and adrenal levels were good? If any of these are off, then fatigue and depression can occur. Do you have this blood work?

Yes I got those tests done and everything is normal.
Also I use to have excellent memory and now I forget lot of things and can't remember them.
I had photographic like memory. haha

[SlimmerMe]

Let me ask this: have long have you been a vegetarian and are you open to changing that?

[pinktaco]

Let me ask this: have long have you been a vegetarian and are you open to changing that?

My parents raised me that way. I've tried meat and didn't like it.
I don't know if I want to eat it. I really have to think about it.

[SlimmerMe]

Fine...then will we see a new thread in the Diet Question forum? I will be curious to see how they handle a vegetarian. You will not be the first vegetarian nor the last.....just wondering what they will say to get those proteins up HIGH....I know that if I do not eat a lot of protein I am lethargic.....very much so....

[dec11]

What is wrong with that?

From the look of his symptoms there is a real reason behind this, meaning a real medical reason he is feeling a lot worse then he should.

It is very immature to presume he is a 100% healthy 30 year old and just being a little wussy and feeling sad and bad.

If a 23 year old comes to the doctor with chest pains the doc, if stupid, can laugh and say 'you are so young, you are fine' or check the man for any real causes of symptoms and the procees to help the person.

All and any symptoms can occure at any age. This has nothing to do with personal feelings or choice of the person.

Example: I broke my leg when I was 17. The doc didn't laugh and say young people don't break their legs. He helped my because despite age the problem was real.

In his case there are probably some real problems which are coming out as symptoms of old age.

He is not old therefore it is that much more important to look for the real cause

Young men, by nature, don't complain out of free will about their energy, mental state or sex drive. When you have it you just have fun with it and use it, when you don't have it we all complain as we should

hmmm, very familiar writing style. hard to hide the condesending pompous attitude, eh mighty1????

[DCannon]

hmmm, very familiar writing style. hard to hide the condesending pompous attitude, eh mighty1????

Haha!

[pinktaco]

Fine...then will we see a new thread in the Diet Question forum? I will be curious to see how they handle a vegetarian. You will not be the first vegetarian nor the last.....just wondering what they will say to get those proteins up HIGH....I know that if I do not eat a lot of protein I am lethargic.....very much so....

Maybe I will make a thread there. But this is what I eat daily rice,beans,pasta,bread,cheese and veggies. Also I take daily vitamins, amino,zinc,omega 3 and protein shake.

[SlimmerMe]

Maybe I will make a thread there. But this is what I eat daily rice,beans,pasta,bread,cheese and veggies. Also I take daily vitamins, amino,zinc,omega 3 and protein shake.

this needs to be in the Diet Question Forum.....they are experts there for this and can really help you and get you on the right path....I promise.....because you will need very detailed help for this subject and it will not happen here in this forum more than likely....

also....things like timing as to when you eat what type of food and how much you eat plays a big part in this
FOOD is the best chemical you could take now

[dec11]

its tough if your a veggie but not impossible and can be done, as slimmer says, head to the diet section. afew v helpful guys there

[GH consumer]

hmmm, very familiar writing style. hard to hide the condesending pompous attitude, eh mighty1????

I am not mighty1

I am strangely honoured to hear that my writing style is similiar to his/hers but no we are not the same person.

I also just started with GH for the first time at 2IU

Looking back on mightys posts he always said that the game starts at 4-5IU

To be honest it is also not cool for anyone (especially a well known member) to compare me or anyone to a ex-member who was not liked (in general) here and is banned now.

It is an insult and without a reason one, not really cool

I know how he wrote and writes on other forums but its not cool that someone says without any evidence or even logic that I am someone who is banned

Even if I was him and came back as me it shouldnt bother anyone as my attitude, reccomendations etc are a lot different (cautious) then his

In reality we are all somebody else then we are here.

The only way for a forum to function is to take it at face value and my face value does not resemble that of an ex-banned member

[dec11]

I am not mighty1

I am strangely honoured to hear that my writing style is similiar to his/hers but no we are not the same person.

I also just started with GH for the first time at 2IU

Looking back on mightys posts he always said that the game starts at 4-5IU

To be honest it is also not cool for anyone (especially a well known member) to compare me or anyone to a ex-member who was not liked (in general) here and is banned now.

It is an insult and without a reason one, not really cool

I know how he wrote and writes on other forums but its not cool that someone says without any evidence or even logic that I am someone who is banned

Even if I was him and came back as me it shouldnt bother anyone as my attitude, reccomendations etc are a lot different (cautious) then his

In reality we are all somebody else then we are here.

The only way for a forum to function is to take it at face value and my face value does not resemble that of an ex-banned member

as i said, hard to hide. isnt it?

[GH consumer]

as i said, hard to hide. isnt it?

Hard to hide what?

That I have some pride and talk a certain way you might not like.

That says all about you and nothing about me.

This is the last time I will be discussing this: I am not mighty1 or anybody else

Maybe you are mighty1 or you are Arnold himself or a highschool janitor.

The nice thing is: people do not care who each of us is but only what we say.

If you came and called at my door I would not recognise you, neither you would me

This forum is meant to discuss personal experiences and important information regarding GH etc.

It is not a playground where long time members can go around insulting new members without any reason, proof, logic or merit

It is also very cheap calling people something through the internet. No proof is needed and there are no consequences.

Like a small child killing insects just because he can.

This is a waste of my and anyone rational time and will not be responded again

Good bye for you

[dec11]

Hard to hide what?

That I have some pride and talk a certain way you might not like.

That says all about you and nothing about me.

This is the last time I will be discussing this: I am not mighty1 or anybody else

Maybe you are mighty1 or you are Arnold himself or a highschool janitor.

The nice thing is: people do not care who each of us is but only what we say.

If you came and called at my door I would not recognise you, neither you would me

This forum is meant to discuss personal experiences and important information regarding GH etc.

It is not a playground where long time members can go around insulting new members without any reason, proof, logic or merit

It is also very cheap calling people something through the internet. No proof is needed and there are no consequences.

Like a small child killing insects just because he can.

This is a waste of my and anyone rational time and will not be responded again

Good bye for you

yet again with the condesending rubbish, we can see through you like a window and strangely enough im not the only one to have pointed and caught you out. your a conceited idiot, not happy with life so you make yourself out to be something you are not and dismiss others as being subpar, compared to your 'superior' intellect. sad and lonely times, eh mighty1? oh and i think you'll find it will be goodbye for you soon


http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...t=#post5464156

[GH consumer]

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[GH consumer]

I have been 'caught'?

Has the meaning of being caught changed lately since we all know to catch somebody you must have evidence of what you are accusing them of being.

Saying something and having somebody else say it also does not make it true.

Can I call you some bad names and later say you are caught? I hope not

This is a trully concerning response: how am I in any way dismissing people? Look for my few posts and you will see that I am trying in a sincere way to help as much as I can. I expect the same from others towards me.

When, how and why would I ever say or imply to have superior intellect?

I assume you posted the link with some reason as to why I am mighty?

I asked in the thread about Trimatropin, GH I just started and wanted mighties or anyone elses opinion.

This proves what?

Is asking a member a normal question anyhow connected with me somehow being him?

I am still waiting for any replies regarding Trimatropin, would like to hear peoples experiences with it

And you are now also 'threathening' with me being also banned?

How can you threaten and most important why would I be banned? No reason whatsoever.

I always thought that a GH forum is about GH and not people being rude to new members.

I will not respond to this anymore as it has no base, is rude and in reality does not matter

Good luck[/QUOTE]

[yungone501]

LMAO, its so obvious man. Not that I honestly care, but, yes you are indeed the mighty 1...

Good call D7M.