You haven't had the correct test done on your hgh, I can guarantee this if you want to prove me wrong post your lab report, tell me the name and I will ring them up and find out what tests they did. Currently labs analyse for structural identity, homogeneity and purity of the products but this isnt the full test. there are other areas what need to be tested to fully identify the product.
Blood test's for igf-1 are very unstable, the blood needs to be tested within 5 hours because it degrades so fast, then many Chinese counterfeiters are actually putting igf-1 into their gh vials.
A blood test for somatotropin will measure the growth hormone level but again this is just an indicator if gh is present, time of day and many other factors come into play, pre BW needs to be done at various times and then BW done at the same times when using the rhgh, this test is very unstable again and that's why the Olympic authorities are finding it nearly impossible to test for rhgh. Its very difficult to determine your HGH levels from IGF-1 or other HGH tests.
Ive also spoken indepth to forensic and analytical laboratories who tell me normally a liquid chromatography test is done on rhgh which would reveal the contains and how much is within the vial, but this test would not tell you if the rhgh is biologically active. There is another test which is a full liquid chromatography mass spectometry which will reveal the contents,how much and if its an active hormone via the peptide sequencing.
One huge problem is the conditions Chinese rhgh is produced in china, if you read this link
http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/57...scription.html
"Additionally, the wrong choice of manufacturing conditions or formulation may lead to improperly folded polypeptide chains which are biologically inactive. Hence, further methodologies capable of analysis of the protein conformation are needed."
The none licensed labs what are supplying the West with these so called rhgh would come into the above category, it cost's a huge amount of money to produce active rhgh and the hormone is so unstable is virtually impossible to produce it in these second rate labs and then send it the way they do half way across the world. To have a rhgh vial tested for quantity and if the hormone is active is extremely expensive if any lab indicates to you its not they are not analysing the hormones correctly, in addition to the full liquid chromatography mass spectometry test you need a full characterisation analysis done because some compounds could have the same molecular weight so finding out everything whats inside the vial is vital and is extremely expensive.
You have to remember that your dealing with the biggest counterfeiters in the world, the Chinese scientists have produce some remarkable things, the chemically constructed baby powder and food what poisoned their own people, they have flooded the world with fake medications what contain poisons. The Government doesn't govern these trades but promote them, there is one thing China is interested in and that's money, do you really think your going to get proper rhgh from such country!!
Before the Olympics I would say most of the rhgh was very good coming out of China but it all went underground, even if you email the companies who are licensed to sell rhgh they give you a email contact what is the same as the underground labs, this is because even the licensed companies are producing these chemically constructed rhgh because there is so much money in it but they cant be seen supplying it direct, its all a con.
Ive recently had a friend who was on the legit hyges and he nearly died due to the increased BP this was giving him, he had to come off this crap before he had a stroke and I can honestly say ive used the most best sources around in china and I can state more or less its either total fake, an AI, igf, some chemically constructed crap or water retaining rubbish.
You have also stated in previous threads and posts that you have been using hgh for 11 yrs and been in and out of the gym for 33 yrs and have done a few cycles but to be honest you really need to take a close look at what your doing because IMHO you dont look like you have that background. If you want to pm me the details of the lab and send me the report to show me the exact lab report you had I will be more than happy to see it, the correct lab test cost's thousands of $'s so that's why I doubt it very much you have the proper test done.
I know I am battling against the wind here trying to convince people not to buy Chinese hgh but if people are happy with it carry on, but all i say is try pharm grade and see what real gh is suppose to do to you, best of luck to you
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just wondering thanks for your time
Originally Posted by Blackbird55
