Deer antler velvet? Must read...

**Angel of death** · 02-08-2011, 03:04 PM

Am I behind on this? I just heard of this supplement called deer antler velvet that supposedly works about as good as injectable hgh in increasing IGF-1 levels. http://www.prweb.com/releases/2011/01/prweb4995274.htm thats one article and if you just type it into a search engine youll find a ton more.

apparently nfl players and moviestars swear by is effects...its banned from the NFL but being nearly undetectable, many players use it. I was asking myself what this really is and I read that every year deers shed their antlers and while this is happening they produce a velvet-like substance on them that is actually pure IGF-1.

I would call this a hoax but Im hearing more and more about it and many celebrities swear by it....could there be truth to this?

**Angel of death** · 02-08-2011, 03:06 PM

ok well I just saw another post on this but hey what the hell it sounds like this product is for real so may as well get it out there

**ScotchGuard02** · 02-09-2011, 12:26 AM

There's a thought that if enough people on the internet gets hyped about something, it MUST be true. I'm waiting for some science to back up the claims. I've heard some good things but they're mostly from marketing based articles.

**Angel of death** · 02-09-2011, 11:05 PM

well a lot of nfl players are using it apparently and they NFL had to take action on it because it seems to be getting pretty popular. i cant see either party making a big stink about it if it wasnt effective...

**istherealimit** · 02-09-2011, 11:16 PM

If this is an oral spray FORGET IT wack. from what im reading it is a KEY ingedient in the release of gh. not a gh producer or even an increaser. flat out only thing that gives you gh is ......... GH Idk if it's okay to post this but i am if not please edit it this website always checks out these new gh products that are SO amazing hghtruths.com they list a lot of products and have the same disclaimer nothing works like gh but gh. id save your money!!

**ScotchGuard02** · 02-11-2011, 04:50 PM

The President of the US stood in front of congress and said that performance enhancing steroids was going to destroy the future of our children. Even some of the most elect of groups can get swept away with the tide of popular opinion. I don't know if the NFL guys are just taking deer antler and nothing else to get great results. I would assume that they're taking a lot of other things along with deer antler. Those boys have been getting bigger and stronger, as a group, for years. I remember back in the 70's a lineman that was 250 was considered big. Tightends were 210. There are HUGE dudes are out there on the field. They got that way before deer antlers was popular. I'm not saying deer antlers don't work. I'm just saying the tide of popular belief may not necessarily validate the science behind deer antler.

**clemont51** · 02-11-2011, 05:40 PM

I started to really investigate deer antler, found several scientific papers in support. I'll try to locate.

**clemont51** · 02-11-2011, 06:17 PM

Here is a link to some papers. Maybe useful.

http://www.purevitalitynz.com/deer-v...al+Trials.html

**Newcastle** · 03-17-2011, 09:04 AM

I read up on this on yahoo news and it lead me to swats.com, along with deer velvet they claim some of the NFL players are also using there performance chips, for pain or performance by frequincy. The Raiders coach swears by it. Check it out.

**PK-V** · 03-22-2011, 03:54 PM

A bottle contains around 180 sprays, and a typical dose is three sprays. Thus, a single dose of deer antler velvet contains between 50 and 84 nanograms of IGF-1. In order to mimic the research study that found IGF-1 to have similar benefits to growth hormone you would need to consume between 1,500,000 to 906,000 sprays PER DAY: that’s between 8,333 to 5,033 bottles per day.

Studies showing it doesn't do anything more than what can be achieved from exercise alone

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14669926

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16286669

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**clemont51** · 03-22-2011, 05:53 PM

And then other peer-reviewed papers suggest that it is of significant benefit. I am going
to try the spray for a month. I'll report back.

**PK-V** · 03-22-2011, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by clemont51

And then other peer-reviewed papers suggest that it is of significant benefit. I am going
to try the spray for a month. I'll report back.

Show them to me

**KyleJumpjets** · 03-22-2011, 08:31 PM

I used deer antler to try to boost libido as I was told on this forum its a great booster. I didn't feel anything

**siskiyounative** · 03-22-2011, 09:52 PM

I bought 2 bottles of the NOW brand IGF-1 from bb.com. This was right after the NFL released a report on it so it was backordered a couple weeks. Could not find it anywhere. I tried it for 3 weeks and noticed that I was taking giant craps and leaning out from it. I did feel that I could go a little harder at the gym without wearing out but leaning out was the opposite of what I had hoped it would do since I have been trying to bulk up. I gave the bottles to a gym buddy who is a little overweight to see what he thinks.

I will say that ever since I stopped taking it I have been getting tired faster at the gym. I am half tempted to get back on it just for those results.

I read an interview from some WR in the NFL cant remember who and he pretty much said he gets the same results that I did.