FIF's slin log

**fif** · 06-01-2011, 07:11 PM

I've been reading about insulin for over a year now because if used incorrectly it could be lethal. i know it inside and out, so i figured it's time to give it a shot. btw i am not using it in conjunction with any aas

i chose Humalog because it's fast acting and easier to time the peak. here we go...

6/1- pinned 5iu after a brutal chest-bi workout. sipped on orange juice on the way home which contained 60g of carbs, and slammed a protein shake when i got home. i know i can go lower with the carbs but i just wanted to be on the safe side my first time. i'm just about peaking right now eating 1cup of brown rice and 8oz of extra lean ground turkey. no signs of hypo at all. cant wait for tomorrow!

**gymfu** · 06-01-2011, 08:43 PM

I would not use orange juice. You don't want to use sugar when your insulin levels are high, going to end up as fat. Keep the orange juice on hand just in case you feel the low glycemic sides.

Eat your protein shake and brown rice at the gym.

**fif** · 06-01-2011, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by gymfu

I would not use orange juice. You don't want to use sugar when your insulin levels are high, going to end up as fat. Keep the orange juice on hand just in case you feel the low glycemic sides.

Eat your protein shake and brown rice at the gym.

yeah the OJ is only temporary i just wanted to see how it worked. i'm not sure if i'll be able to eat rice at the gym AND be able to down my big meal during the peak; waxy maize seems my best bet

**fif** · 06-03-2011, 08:14 AM

6/2- pinned 5iu again yesterday after hitting delts, ate 40g carbs from fat free whole wheat bread on the way home. had a shake when i got home 48g protein 10g creatine. pwo meal 1hr later was 1 cup brown rice, 7oz chicken breast and some green beans. my muscles do look slightly fuller and i feel extremely anabolic while the slin is active; amazing feeling. no signs of hypo at all so far even when lowering the post-pin carbs. i have a good feeling about this stuff.

about to go to the gym in a bit. bumping the dose up to 6iu, i will return with updates.

**fif** · 06-04-2011, 05:56 PM

6/3- upped my dose to 6iu yesterday, no problems at all. starting to feel a bit more confident so i kept my carb amount the same (40g) at this dose and felt no signs of hypo. followed regular PWO protocol; protein shake+creatine followed by a fat free meal 1hr later. i look much fuller and i feel as if i am recovering much quicker. slin is amazing!

by the way, after the 1hr mark i felt a bit emotional. i was listening to relaxing music and just sitting at home thinking. then i grabbed a bottle of apple juice and drove to the docks by my house and was walking around there enjoying the view. this was a very weird sensation and have never felt like this before. any ideas on why this happened?

**fif** · 06-06-2011, 07:47 PM

6/6- trained back today, 6iu again, still feel fine at 40g of carbs post injection. will up the dose to 7iu tomorrow still keeping the carbs at 40g, just experimenting seeing how low i can go with the carbs. followed normal PWO protocol and had 8oz grilled chicken breast and 1cup brown rice around peak time. i have had no hypo symptoms at all thus far.

i feel stronger in the gym and don't get fatigued as quickly, i can train harder too. recovery is really fast i think i can even train each muscle 2x a week, i may try that next week.

**Misguided Angel** · 06-07-2011, 08:52 PM

with insulin ....is it injected once a day, everyday. for 4 weeks?
is that the basic protocol. (for beginners)

**Twist** · 06-09-2011, 01:11 AM

following.

**fif** · 06-11-2011, 12:49 AM

got sick for a few days, took some time off from the gym. getting back in the gym tomorrow morning hitting it hard.

Originally Posted by Misguided Angel

with insulin ....is it injected once a day, everyday. for 4 weeks?
is that the basic protocol. (for beginners)

the most basic protocol for beginners would be a post workout injection. get comfortable with that for a week or two then if you want you could start pinning in the morning too right when you wake up. i wouldn't run slin for longer than 4 weeks just to be on the safe side.

**fif** · 06-11-2011, 02:42 PM

6/11- pinned 7iu after a SICK bi/tri workout. ate 55g carbs from fat free whole wheat bread and i feel fine, gonna try to drop it to 44g tomorrow. i'm just about peaking right now and i'm about to eat 7oz grilled chicken breast and some brown rice. i believe i am up 4lbs and i am only in my second week. i look much thicker all over, and overall i look awesome. i definitely see a difference and others have too. i would post progress pictures but the only camera i have now is my phone and those pics dont do me any justice.

**Misguided Angel** · 06-12-2011, 06:13 PM

thats awesome man...keep the updates coming.
ive been reading up on slin for awhile now and thinkin about diving into it soon.

**Isma** · 06-13-2011, 02:39 PM

Following. Nice work man.

**Isma** · 06-13-2011, 02:41 PM

Sorry bro, do you know your size (measures of muscles) and weight (body fat %...) to compare the before and the after?

**fif** · 06-14-2011, 12:13 AM

6/13- 7iu after legs tonight and 55g carbs right after. protein shake when i got home, 7 egg whites and brown rice around peak time. creatine works very well with slin i am doing 10g with my post workout meal.
bumping it up to 8iu tomorrow and i will start pinning in the AM too once my schedule clears up this week. can't wait..

**fif** · 06-14-2011, 12:34 PM

6/14- 8iu after an early session today. i think i struck a vein because i felt a pinch then a little warming sensation in that area. not sure if i injected the slin into the vein or if i just hit a vein while going in. a drop of blood came out after i took the syringe out too. i feel fine though, followed regular PWO protocol and i am planning some nice tilapia around peak time

. will start pinning upon waking up tomorrow also. 5iu in the morning, 8iu PWO.

**Isma** · 06-14-2011, 01:55 PM

How do you fell fif?

And how you look?

**fif** · 06-14-2011, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by Isma

How do you fell fif?

And how you look?

i feel like i am recovering much faster, thicker all over, more definition... but nothing crazy. maybe i will see better results once i integrate that morning shot.

**Isma** · 06-14-2011, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by fif

6/6- trained back today, 6iu again, still feel fine at 40g of carbs post injection. will up the dose to 7iu tomorrow still keeping the carbs at 40g, just experimenting seeing how low i can go with the carbs. followed normal PWO protocol and had 8oz grilled chicken breast and 1cup brown rice around peak time. i have had no hypo symptoms at all thus far.

i feel stronger in the gym and don't get fatigued as quickly, i can train harder too. recovery is really fast i think i can even train each muscle 2x a week, i may try that next week.

How do you have calculated the carbs you're going to take on the first meal? I'm not talking about the shake after slin injection (8 gr x UI), but about the 1-hour later meal.

Thanks man. Nice log.

**Misguided Angel** · 06-14-2011, 10:01 PM

are you using the epi pen to inject? and where are u injecting?

**fif** · 06-15-2011, 12:13 AM

Originally Posted by Isma

How do you have calculated the carbs you're going to take on the first meal? I'm not talking about the shake after slin injection (8 gr x UI), but about the 1-hour later meal.

Thanks man. Nice log.

it's best to have a very lean balanced meal when you are peaking. my idea of a balanced meal is 40-50g protein, 40-70g of carbs, ~15g of good fats. i have no direct fat source at any time when when insulin is active (avocado, peanut butter, etc).

Originally Posted by Misguided Angel

are you using the epi pen to inject? and where are u injecting?

i'm using 1cc slin pins 29 gauge x 1/2 inch. injecting in my lower ab region, between my belly button and my side sub-q. i would really recommend you get .5cc syringes as it is easier to read and adjust your specific dose. diabetics inject like 50iu's of insulin at a time so it really doesnt matter if they are off by one or two IU's, for us it is extremely crucial.

**Isma** · 06-15-2011, 06:47 AM

So, you don't change too from your balanced diet, when you aren't on insulin .

The only think is if you feel some hypo symptoms, you increase your HC, am I right?

**fif** · 06-17-2011, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by Isma

So, you don't change too from your balanced diet, when you aren't on insulin .

The only think is if you feel some hypo symptoms, you increase your HC, am I right?

sorry, what is HC? and if you are interested in using insulin i really suggest you don't simply follow what i am doing. there are many informative threads here dealing with the subject, check them out.

**bjpennnn** · 06-17-2011, 08:10 PM

Whats your weight increase been like? nice log btw bro.

**gixxerboy1** · 06-18-2011, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by fif

it's best to have a very lean balanced meal when you are peaking. my idea of a balanced meal is 40-50g protein, 40-70g of carbs, ~15g of good fats. i have no direct fat source at any time when when insulin is active (avocado, peanut butter, etc).

i'm using 1cc slin pins 29 gauge x 1/2 inch. injecting in my lower ab region, between my belly button and my side sub-q. i would really recommend you get .5cc syringes as it is easier to read and adjust your specific dose. diabetics inject like 50iu's of insulin at a time so it really doesnt matter if they are off by one or two IU's, for us it is extremely crucial.

Sorry that is inaccurate.

**fif** · 06-18-2011, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

Sorry that is inaccurate.

not really. my uncle is a diabetic he uses lantus, he injects around 30iu daily i think

Originally Posted by bjpennnn

Whats your weight increase been like? nice log btw bro.

thanks. i think i up a total of 3-4lbs and its definitely noticeable. i love the thickness and fullness you get when using this stuff too.

nice avatar too, Patrick.

**Isma** · 06-18-2011, 03:41 PM

Sorry, HC (hidratos de carbono), carbs in Spanish... it's automatically, I'm sorry...

I'm asking for your method, to know how are you doing the cycle, it doesn't mean that I'm going to do in the same way, or different... even, it doesn't mean that I'm going to use insulin .

**fif** · 06-18-2011, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by Isma

Sorry, HC (hidratos de carbono), carbs in Spanish... it's automatically, I'm sorry...

I'm asking for your method, to know how are you doing the cycle, it doesn't mean that I'm going to do in the same way, or different... even, it doesn't mean that I'm going to use insulin.

if i feel any hypo symptoms i drink a glass of orange juice or anything sugary, 5min later the symptoms should be gone.

6/18- pinned 8iu 30 minutes ago. dropped the carbs to 44g just to see if i can get away with it, turns out i cant. i got some hot flashes and drank a glass of orange juice and i feel fine now. sipping on a 50g protein shake with 10g creatine. have a nice tilapia currently defrosting right now for my PWO meal, cant wait

**gixxerboy1** · 06-20-2011, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by fif

not really. my uncle is a diabetic he uses lantus, he injects around 30iu daily i think

thanks. i think i up a total of 3-4lbs and its definitely noticeable. i love the thickness and fullness you get when using this stuff too.

nice avatar too, Patrick.

i've been a diabetic for 25 years. Yes lantus is a once a day shot so it is a little larger. Doesnt mean it doesnt have to be accurate. Taking the wrong dose for anyone can cause dramitic problems