HGH Question CJC-1295 & GHRP-?

**Rodax** · 06-18-2011, 02:14 PM

Ok So I'm like 28 and I'm pretty much done growing heighth-wise right? I just ask because a friend of mine who is 22 asked me about taking HGH or a CJC1295 and GHRP 6 or 2 (I forget) combo but with the intention of actually growing taller.

Before anyone asks, no he hasn't gone to a dr. to see if his plates have fused or if it's even possible at this stage in the game.

First, Has anyone on here who was that young ever experienced height growth while on HGH or a CJC stack? If so how young? and what did your cycle look like?

Second, Would it be preferable to have CJC 1295 DAC or without? I've seen on here people mention GH bleed but I'm curious as to the pros and cons of either. Second which would be best to use in conjunction GHRP-6 or 2? I know together the CJC and GHRP are great to use for growth and fat loss (actually considering using them myself for that reason, but this isn't about me I'm over 6') but I haven't heard anyone mention whether they noticed a change in height?

Last, I'm trying to get him to avoid GH at all costs (he's 5'9" and wants to be 6') but would that be the better option rather than using peptides? The peptide route seems less likely to damage your Pituitary and throw Acromegaly in the mix. My main concern for him would be Acromegaly because a family member of mine actually had it and they didn't catch it until waay later in life, However their height did change a bit.

Any help and or directional guidance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

**GunSlingR** · 06-18-2011, 02:36 PM

Hes not going to grow taller. I get better sleep, muscle seems to be solidifying good and losing fat.
dac causes bleed of pit gland and i dont suggest it. use without. Although I have found zero real studies involving cjc 1295 wo dac (cjc1293) I have found ghrp2-6 studies done on swine and have shown very noticable spikes of gh release at about 20 minutes post injection. I started using ghrp-6 alone with a double dose and havent seemed to be any less effective. Although ghrp2 is more powerful is also increases cortisol (stress horomose that increases fat)
Scientific studies have shown that growth horomone releasing peptides have no ill side effects.

**Rodax** · 06-18-2011, 02:54 PM

Well then is he better off with IGF instead?

**Rodax** · 06-18-2011, 06:04 PM

Or Ipamorelin?

**GunSlingR** · 06-19-2011, 05:28 PM

I have a friend using igf with some great results. But its being used along with hgh. I got a killer deal on 20 vials of ipamorelin, so I'm going to give it a shot using a dose of 300-400mcg.

**Rodax** · 06-20-2011, 02:50 AM

Gun is that a day or a dose , 3x a day?

**M302_Imola** · 06-20-2011, 06:20 AM

Originally Posted by Rodax

Gun is that a day or a dose , 3x a day?

run 100mcg of each (GHRP and GHRH) 3 times per day on workout days, twice on non working out days. morning, pwo, and bed time

**spywizard** · 06-20-2011, 06:56 AM

at 22 it's very probable that his growth plates have closed much like yours, so yes his height is done..

ghrp will cause his pituitary to release it's max dose of GH.. but at yours and his age, you are already doing that, so any benefit would be marginal..

unless of coarse either of you are GH deficient..

**MastaMan** · 06-20-2011, 11:31 AM

i'm 17 and my plates are closed... so his are almost definitely closed

**Rodax** · 06-20-2011, 01:27 PM

well the weird thing is that there is a med journal article I read where they used adult rats and dosing them at 100-450mcg a dose 3x a day resulted in 2% longitudinal bone growth over 15 days. first to scale that to a human level would prolly result in horrendous tumors etc... however the studies lowest doses when scaled to human size is possible but in rats it resulted in .5% bone length growth. my major interest in ipamorelin would honestly be fat loss and you wouldn't need to add in ghrh 2or6 nor would I want to deal with the possible sides. my friend asked me if it would matter and so far that's the only study I've seen on pub med with a gh peptide that resulted in bone length growth. the study did not mention whether these uber dosed rats were riddled with tumors etc. the only biopsy notes were bone length growth on the tibias (intention of the study) and an overall bodyweight increase that correlated to dose strength. I assume the latter was noted bc the organs in the rats prolly got ridiculous due to the gh.

**GunSlingR** · 06-20-2011, 05:05 PM

your talking rats and humans here. the growth of rats and humans should not be compared. My personal reason for using gh peptides is that of lack of sleep. I work etremely early and have alot of broken sleep. When I can get full gh secretion 3 times a day compared to most likely very little secretion naturatlly, Ill take the peptides over natural any day.