GH and Test gains

**jjp53** · 10-03-2011, 11:57 PM

I have read and heard from various people that the retain about 80% of the gains you achieve from using GH alone. Would this percentage be the same if you used a cycle or two of Test while using the GH?

**Hondarocks** · 10-04-2011, 12:10 AM

You need to use them both for optimal faster benefits. But depends on what you are trying to do. If your using both your going to get solid and build lean muscle mass and lowe BF%. Especially with test.

**LILD** · 10-04-2011, 06:04 AM

what brands of gh are the best / most reliable in your opinion

**LILD** · 10-04-2011, 06:05 AM

and how many iu per day for how long would i need

**SlimmerMe** · 10-04-2011, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by LILD

what brands of gh are the best / most reliable in your opinion

pharma grade

Originally Posted by LILD

and how many iu per day for how long would i need

depends on goals and for at least 6 months

**jjp53** · 10-04-2011, 01:08 PM

What is the recommend daily iu to lower bf%

**Hondarocks** · 10-04-2011, 01:43 PM

Minimun 4iu's

**LILD** · 10-05-2011, 09:05 AM

riptropin somatropin, is the brand i have access to , 100 iu kits, I planned on doing 7 iu/ ed off on weekends . running with test E and sust 250. My goal is to burn fat while getting huge.

**gixxerboy1** · 10-05-2011, 09:11 AM

dont waste your money on chinese junk "gh"

**Sc0rch** · 10-05-2011, 10:08 AM

don't waste your money on expensive fake pharm when you can get great generic. Go look at the Chinese results thread...around 75% of the people have had great experience with generic.

I've been using somatropin yellow tops and they're great!

**LILD** · 10-06-2011, 08:05 AM

Thanks appreciate the help !

**Hondarocks** · 10-06-2011, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by LILD

riptropin somatropin, is the brand i have access to , 100 iu kits, I planned on doing 7 iu/ ed off on weekends . running with test E and sust 250. My goal is to burn fat while getting huge.

Is that generic phara grade, who makes it, is it from china and how well does it work? I know its a loaded question but I would like to know

**gixxerboy1** · 10-06-2011, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by Hondarocks

Is that generic phara grade, who makes it, is it from china and how well does it work? I know its a loaded question but I would like to know

its more of an under ground lab then generic. And yes its from china

**Hondarocks** · 10-06-2011, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

its more of an under ground lab then generic. And yes its from china

Does it work, as well as my noritropin. What would the conversion matching be from iu=2 compared to my nordipen?

**gixxerboy1** · 10-06-2011, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by Hondarocks

Does it work, as well as my noritropin. What would the conversion matching be from iu=2 compared to my nordipen?

i wouldnt use them. Guys that say they are good have never used real gh to compare. They see some side effects or weight loss and are happy. I dont know whats in those vials.

and an iu is an iu no matter what brand.

**jjp53** · 10-06-2011, 01:11 PM

What's everyone talking about

**Isma** · 10-06-2011, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

i wouldnt use them. Guys that say they are good have never used real gh to compare. They see some side effects or weight loss and are happy. I dont know whats in those vials.

and an iu is an iu no matter what brand.

It's true that some of us have never used real HGH, but what's not true it's "They see some side effects or weight loss and are happy".

I've been in my 92 kilos for years, and I've been only able to achieve the 100 with the "fake" HGH. And the grade of definition I've achieved with my "fake" HGH, I have not able to achieve it without it... so... sure with real HGH I could achieve the same or more with less IU... but chinese HGH it's not water...

At least in my experience.