igf lr3 vs des

**jholl** · 12-01-2011, 08:48 PM

From what i've read so far, des is about 10 times stronger than lr3, but also has a much shorter half life. Anyone that has used the two have any input on the difference between them and whether 1 is 'better' than the other? Or maybe stacking the 2 together? thanks.

**ironaddict69** · 12-03-2011, 03:53 PM

bump, very curious as well.

**gixxerboy1** · 12-03-2011, 03:59 PM

i've tried lr3 and its sucks. i wouldnt waste $$ on it

**jholl** · 12-04-2011, 12:22 PM

i have some des and lr3 on the way so i am going to compare the 2. From what i've read so far, des is newer and much more powerful (10 times that of lr3), but the half-life is much shorter. Where lr3 is active for 10 hours or so i believe, des is about an hour or 2. Reviewers of des claim that u get pretty crazy pumps in muscle groups that u inject. Since lr3 has a longer half-life i believe it enters the bloodstream and circulates the body more than des's more site specific effect. Not much information on des out there, so this is just what i've come across so far.

Originally Posted by ironaddict69

bump, very curious as well.

**OnTheSauce** · 12-09-2011, 11:49 PM

make a log on this stuff!

**jholl** · 12-10-2011, 01:30 AM

yea thanks dude i just got everything a few days ago and just pinned the igf-des this morning in calves pwo. got some pretty good pumps...

Originally Posted by patrick4588

make a log on this stuff!

**gixxerboy1** · 12-10-2011, 11:27 AM

what are you dosing the des at?

**jholl** · 12-10-2011, 11:59 AM

i started yesterday with 20mcgs in each (inner and outer) of the calves for a total of 80mcgs. I'm thinking that i will probably fluctuate between 50-80 daily. Getting an accurate measurement is a pain though since the amount is so small on a insulin pin.

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

what are you dosing the des at?