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    Trying to understand how to reconstitute/pin gh

    Regarding what I should stock as far as syringes/needles go.

    Per 100 iu kit, what should I have at hand?

    For reconstitution what gauge, size, etc.?

    For drawing and pinning (IM delt) what gauge, size, etc.?

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    all you need is normal insulin needles. how many depends on how many injections you do per 100iu
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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1
    all you need is normal insulin needles. how many depends on how many injections you do per 100iu
    Are insulin needles, the 1/2", interchangeable with syringes like bigger gauge needles? I ask cause I want switch up after drawing.

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    no they arent. Its 1 piece. yea 1/2 long they are typically 29-31 guage. It doesnt matter which ones you get
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    So I'll just have to deal with the needle going dull after drawing? Is it that bad?

    Also when pinning delt, just stick it in all the way shoot? I figure no need to aspirate since many pros IV gh anyways, so if I hit a vein it's better lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewMuscle83
    So I'll just have to deal with the needle going dull after drawing? Is it that bad?

    Also when pinning delt, just stick it in all the way shoot? I figure no need to aspirate since many pros IV gh anyways, so if I hit a vein it's better lol
    It not going to go that dull from drawing up. You'll be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewMuscle83 View Post
    So I'll just have to deal with the needle going dull after drawing? Is it that bad? THats how the needles are designed how can it be bad? Thats the only way to use them

    Also when pinning delt, just stick it in all the way shoot? I figure no need to aspirate since many pros IV gh anyways, so if I hit a vein it's better lol
    why are you doing gh in the delt? You can do anywhere most people do sub-q though.
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    Mostly anecdotal, but I read in many different places it clears faster in the delt, especially when compared to sub q. supposed to be fastest uptake of anywhere but IV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewMuscle83 View Post
    Mostly anecdotal, but I read in many different places it clears faster in the delt, especially when compared to sub q. supposed to be fastest uptake of anywhere but IV.
    well IM is faster then sub-q. But never heard the delt was faster then another muscle.

    i can tell you with insulin i cant tell any difference with injecting in different places
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    I like a 3cc or so for reconstitution with an extra needle stuck in the top to let the air vent. For insulin syringe I would go with the bigger needle.......then you can use it for subQ test too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cravenmorehead
    I like a 3cc or so for reconstitution with an extra needle stuck in the top to let the air vent. For insulin syringe I would go with the bigger needle.......then you can use it for subQ test too.
    What's the advantage of letting the air vent? Also, what do you mean by subQ test?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cravenmorehead View Post
    I like a 3cc or so for reconstitution with an extra needle stuck in the top to let the air vent. For insulin syringe I would go with the bigger needle.......then you can use it for subQ test too.
    why would you put 3cc's in reconstituting it?
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    Well for Lilly it is 5cc so I just draw up 3 then 2. The smaller syinge is a bit more accurate than a 5cc syringe. Then you can use the 3 for peptides too.....good all around syringe size. I buy them from the local feed store with the needle already attached and prepackaged......very convenient. The 3 is great for IM AAS too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewMuscle83 View Post
    What's the advantage of letting the air vent? Also, what do you mean by subQ test?
    When you fill the bottle with water you build up pressure. Sub cutaneous......as effective as IM.

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    what the hell are you talking about. 5cc's for gh?
    I've been using gh for almost 7 years and you confused me, I can only imagine how the OP feels
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cravenmorehead View Post
    When you fill the bottle with water you build up pressure. Sub cutaneous......as effective as IM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cravenmorehead View Post
    Well for Lilly it is 5cc so I just draw up 3 then 2. The smaller syinge is a bit more accurate than a 5cc syringe. Then you can use the 3 for peptides too.....good all around syringe size. I buy them from the local feed store with the needle already attached and prepackaged......very convenient. The 3 is great for IM AAS too.
    LOL. I've seen your posts before and you seem like a pretty sharp dude but that shlt might as well be in chinese.

    OP - you dont need to let the air vent. Most GH comes vacuum sealed so you actually need to inject air into the vial to be able to draw it out. And don't worry about the slin pin dulling from drawing, that's what it's made for and it is still completely painless.

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    True on the GH.......they are vacuum sealed.......but some of the peptides are not......my bad. I don't use 5cc of GH.....i reconstituted with 5cc......for 1mg/cc......which is about 3ius /cc. You could reconstitute with 2ccs which would be 2 insulin syringes full which would be about 7.5 IU/ ml. If you use 3ccs to reconstitute then it would be 5IU/ml. Just remember each mg GH is about 3IU and you are gtg with whatever dilutent amount you want to use. I wouldn't go under 2CC for 5mg just to make sure it all dissolves.

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    After I reconstitute.....THEN i use the insulin syringe to draw up the desired amount for injection......hope this is clearer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cravenmorehead View Post
    True on the GH.......they are vacuum sealed.......but some of the peptides are not......my bad. I don't use 5cc of GH.....i reconstituted with 5cc......for 1mg/cc......which is about 3ius /cc. You could reconstitute with 2ccs which would be 2 insulin syringes full which would be about 7.5 IU/ ml. If you use 3ccs to reconstitute then it would be 5IU/ml. Just remember each mg GH is about 3IU and you are gtg with whatever dilutent amount you want to use. I wouldn't go under 2CC for 5mg just to make sure it all dissolves.
    there is no reason to use that much water it will dissolve in alot less water. Hell 3cc wouldnt even fit in my vial of gh. Also i dont want to inject that much fluid sub-q in my stomach being lean. I only have to do 40units for a 4iu gh injections
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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

    there is no reason to use that much water it will dissolve in alot less water. Hell 3cc wouldnt even fit in my vial of gh. Also i dont want to inject that much fluid sub-q in my stomach being lean. I only have to do 40units for a 4iu gh injections
    Exactly. I'm going to use 1cc for each 10iu vial. I'll be splitting my 4iu dose into a morning and evening shot.

    My kits are nitrogen filled if that makes a difference..

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewMuscle83 View Post
    Exactly. I'm going to use 1cc for each 10iu vial. I'll be splitting my 4iu dose into a morning and evening shot.

    My kits are nitrogen filled if that makes a difference..
    yea then with 1cc every 10 on the slin pin will be 1iu
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    I think it needs to be mentioned that when reconstituting the powder (hgh). That you DO NOT inject the bacteriostatic water directly into the powder. Better to allow the water to go down the side of the vial. I have been told by several HRT physicians that reconstituting incorrectly can actually ruin a vial of HGH. I have never used the "snorkel" method to reconstitute the powder. The vials are vacume sealed. So injecting the needed amount of air to draw from the vial is what I do when drawing with the slin pin. I draw 3iu of air then inject that into the vial. Then draw out the same amount of solution. No air is injected when reconstituting the powder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    yea then with 1cc every 10 on the slin pin will be 1iu
    Good idea .......so for 5mg(15iu) Lilly use 1.5 cc. Smaller shot volume. Will try that on the next vial.

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    The only negative is you waste more GH when the vial has residual liquid .......there's always a little left behind.

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