Generic HGH, legit or not ?

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02-08-2012, 03:37 AM
Flier

Generic HGH, legit or not ?

I´ve been doing HGH on/off different brands for 2 years.
Don´t know what I got results from since I messed with other compounds at the same time.
Just know I looked amazing on Pharm HGH, Testogel and Winny.

My last HGH run (6 months of Hyge/4iu ED) ended Dec. And I just picked up some Vitex I´ll start next week.

A lot of people say Generic is crap, but when I did Hyge just now my BW was this:

Growth Hormone: 10.2 (<11.5)
IGF-1 : 63.2 (11-40)

So doesen´t that tell us that the Hyge was legit?
What should the levels have been on Pharm HGH?

I just did BW again after being off HGH for 6 weeks, don´t have the results yet.
02-08-2012, 06:40 AM
M302_Imola

Keep us updated on your recent bw when you get it back.
02-10-2012, 06:17 PM
soulstealer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flier

I´ve been doing HGH on/off different brands for 2 years.
Don´t know what I got results from since I messed with other compounds at the same time.
Just know I looked amazing on Pharm HGH, Testogel and Winny.

My last HGH run (6 months of Hyge/4iu ED) ended Dec. And I just picked up some Vitex I´ll start next week.

A lot of people say Generic is crap, but when I did Hyge just now my BW was this:

Growth Hormone: 10.2 (<11.5)
IGF-1 : 63.2 (11-40)

So doesen´t that tell us that the Hyge was legit?
What should the levels have been on Pharm HGH?

I just did BW again after being off HGH for 6 weeks, don´t have the results yet.

Yes the Hyge was legit.... Or your a freak of nature :lol:
02-11-2012, 09:04 AM
gixxerboy1

isnt your gh in range but your igf i elevated?
So what says you werent injecting igf?
02-11-2012, 09:15 AM
bmit

Buying generics is a roll of the dice. Funny thing is I was getting good blue tops (verified through blood work and sides), but when I bought Kigtropin it was bunk. However this was b/c Kigtropin turned scammer so everyone, good and bad suppliers, were hit. So really don't blame my source too much.
My advice: like anything buy the best you can afford, have it tested (physically tested by boiling method and verified with blood work), and do A LOT of research before settling on a source. You should be OK then.
However, I hink the best value is if you can find legit Jintroins with the serial number able to be verified on Gensci website and it has the embedded threads.
02-11-2012, 10:45 AM
Flier

Quote:

Originally Posted by M302_Imola

Keep us updated on your recent bw when you get it back.

Yes I will. Got my other levels, but Growth is sent to a different lab, and takes a few more days.

Quote:

Originally Posted by soulstealer

Yes the Hyge was legit.... Or your a freak of nature :lol:

I´m glad I didn´t have these levels growing up, or I would for sure look like a freak of nature...hehe

Quote:

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

isnt your gh in range but your igf i elevated?
So what says you werent injecting igf?

I have no idea. Even with these levels, I feel I got no anabolic or metabolic benefit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmit

Buying generics is a roll of the dice. Funny thing is I was getting good blue tops (verified through blood work and sides), but when I bought Kigtropin it was bunk. However this was b/c Kigtropin turned scammer so everyone, good and bad suppliers, were hit. So really don't blame my source too much.
My advice: like anything buy the best you can afford, have it tested (physically tested by boiling method and verified with blood work), and do A LOT of research before settling on a source. You should be OK then.
However, I hink the best value is if you can find legit Jintroins with the serial number able to be verified on Gensci website and it has the embedded threads.

I would buy pharm over generic any day if I could get it.
I´m gonna see if I have any luck getting a prescription when in the US next time.
Got many sources, and I trust them. But that doesn´t mean they can guarantee the quality, especially with GH.

Sgt Hartman posted an interesting study.
Can it be that my Hyge was of poor quality giving me little/no benefit even though the substance elevated my HGH and IGF-1 levels?
02-11-2012, 10:50 AM
soulstealer

his serum hgh levels are at the high end of the range... this is what we would expect on 4iu's if he was on 20 then i would a different view..
02-12-2012, 01:56 AM
markdbg

i havent heard anything bad about hyge's yet. kigs gone bad as everyone should know by now. there is still alot of good generic gh out there if u can find it/risk little bit of money. put ur time into looking around and i see no reason to spend 8x as much on pharm. but thats just me
03-15-2012, 02:51 AM
Flier

Got my recent BW back. Taken after being off HGH for 2,5 months.

Growth hormone: 0.1 (<11.5)
IGF-1: 29.9 (11-40)

So looks like the IGF went right back to base levels.
Back on 3.3iu Hyge ED as of this week.

My doc said when he admin. HRT he tries to target the patient to the upper 3/4 of the IGF range. Is that what u guys do?
Is supplementing HGH different to AAS in that it ADDS to our own production rather than REPLACE?
03-15-2012, 03:43 AM
marcus300

The generic companies throw peptides in their so called hgh what will alter your bloodwork figures. You probably lucky if your getting peptides instead of the other dangerous chemicals they normally insert into their hgh.

It costs millions of $'s to buy the equipment to produce hgh and even more to make the hormone active. You think these generic companies are interested in buying all this equipment when they are not licenced or have some government body to keep an eye on. They are interested in making as much money as possible and if they can produce chemicals what mimic gh sides or throw an increase in BW by using peptides then of course they will do it.

Even if you really think the generic gh is 100% gh but their 10ius is only 2-3 ius then its the exact same price or even more expensive than pharm anyway, so no matter what your believe it isnt worth it.

I ask one thing to anyone who thinks their generic company is selling them real 100% gh, take the plunge and use pharm grade, get blood work done and compare between generic and pharm and see the difference in results after 6 months. You will never go back to crap once you have used the best.
03-15-2012, 03:59 AM
Flier

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcus300

The generic companies throw peptides in their so called hgh what will alter your bloodwork figures. You probably lucky if your getting peptides instead of the other dangerous chemicals they normally insert into their hgh.

It costs millions of $'s to buy the equipment to produce hgh and even more to make the hormone active. You think these generic companies are interested in buying all this equipment when they are not licenced or have some government body to keep an eye on. They are interested in making as much money as possible and if they can produce chemicals what mimic gh sides or throw an increase in BW by using peptides then of course they will do it.

Even if you really think the generic gh is 100% gh but their 10ius is only 2-3 ius then its the exact same price or even more expensive than pharm anyway, so no matter what your believe it isnt worth it.

I ask one thing to anyone who thinks their generic company is selling them real 100% gh, take the plunge and use pharm grade, get blood work done and compare between generic and pharm and see the difference in results after 6 months. You will never go back to crap once you have used the best.

Ok. I got the understanding that IGF-1 is not a great indicator whether my HGH is real or not.
But what about the "Growth Hormone" level? As you see, when I was on 4iu Hyge it measured 10.2 (<11.5). Does this prove there is at least some HGH in their product?
And I will do exactly as you say. Right now I am back on Hyge 3,3iu ED. After 3 months I will do BW, and switch to my prescription Serostim for 3 months and do BW again.
If the BWs come out about the same (Growth Hormone and IGF-1), does that prove the Hyge is just as good as the Serostim, or are there still other factors?

I will post the results here.
03-15-2012, 05:24 AM
marcus300

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flier

Ok. I got the understanding that IGF-1 is not a great indicator whether my HGH is real or not.
But what about the "Growth Hormone" level? As you see, when I was on 4iu Hyge it measured 10.2 (<11.5). Does this prove there is at least some HGH in their product?
And I will do exactly as you say. Right now I am back on Hyge 3,3iu ED. After 3 months I will do BW, and switch to my prescription Serostim for 3 months and do BW again.
If the BWs come out about the same (Growth Hormone and IGF-1), does that prove the Hyge is just as good as the Serostim, or are there still other factors?

I will post the results here.

Like ive already stated they use peptides to knock your blood work off scale, GHRP-6/cjc can alter your GH levels.

You need to use pharm grade for at least 6 months and you will see the difference in results. You buy cheap you get crap.

Pharm grade gh transforms the body like nothing else, if you know how to use it properly along side AAS the results are outstanding and will transport your whole body to the next level.

Generics are not worth it, they work out alot more expensive and you have no idea what your injecting. You want to test something why not test the gh vial rather than your blood. Its extremely hard to test if the hormone is active but you can test for 191aa/192aa, if it gh or not and how manay ius
03-15-2012, 06:07 AM
Flier

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcus300

Like ive already stated they use peptides to knock your blood work off scale, GHRP-6/cjc can alter your GH levels.

You need to use pharm grade for at least 6 months and you will see the difference in results. You buy cheap you get crap.

Pharm grade gh transforms the body like nothing else, if you know how to use it properly along side AAS the results are outstanding and will transport your whole body to the next level.

Generics are not worth it, they work out alot more expensive and you have no idea what your injecting. You want to test something why not test the gh vial rather than your blood. Its extremely hard to test if the hormone is active but you can test for 191aa/192aa, if it gh or not and how manay ius

Ok..this might be my last batch of Hyge then.
Where can I get the vial of HGH tested?
03-15-2012, 06:42 AM
marcus300

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flier

Ok..this might be my last batch of Hyge then.
Where can I get the vial of HGH tested?

Its a minefield to be honest with you just like blood testing. If your happy with the results and your seeing great transformations then stick with your source but if your questioning your gh because your not experiencing anything or the results are different what many claim then changed and seek pharm grade.
03-15-2012, 07:21 AM
Flier

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcus300

Its a minefield to be honest with you just like blood testing. If your happy with the results and your seeing great transformations then stick with your source but if your questioning your gh because your not experiencing anything or the results are different what many claim then changed and seek pharm grade.

Well I´m lucky to have a script.
It´s just when I went to the pharmacy to pick it up, I got a small shock. My CC declined, and gave me the weekend to think about it. 6 months was more expensive than a Breitling I´ve been wanting....so I walked away, and ordered Hyge instead for 1/6 of the price.
It´s all a matter of money. So I might just put this into my budget, and start my Pharm once my Hyge is gone.
It´s kind of a pain and a big effort, to get out of bed every morning, go downstairs to pin, and back to bed again. So I should at least have the best.
03-15-2012, 07:23 AM
lovbyts

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcus300

Like ive already stated they use peptides to knock your blood work off scale, GHRP-6/cjc can alter your GH levels.

You need to use pharm grade for at least 6 months and you will see the difference in results. You buy cheap you get crap.

Pharm grade gh transforms the body like nothing else, if you know how to use it properly along side AAS the results are outstanding and will transport your whole body to the next level.

Generics are not worth it, they work out alot more expensive and you have no idea what your injecting. You want to test something why not test the gh vial rather than your blood. Its extremely hard to test if the hormone is active but you can test for 191aa/192aa, if it gh or not and how manay ius

I really don't like the way that's worded. I read it as ghrp/cjc may alter your ghg levels but maybe it's not realistic or beneficial?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flier

Well I´m lucky to have a script.
It´s just when I went to the pharmacy to pick it up, I got a small shock. My CC declined, and gave me the weekend to think about it. 6 months was more expensive than a Breitling I´ve been wanting....so I walked away, and ordered Hyge instead for 1/6 of the price.
It´s all a matter of money. So I might just put this into my budget, and start my Pharm once my Hyge is gone.
It´s kind of a pain and a big effort, to get out of bed every morning, go downstairs to pin, and back to bed again. So I should at least have the best.

I hear you, I sort of did the same thing except went without for over 2 years. It got expensive. I'm trying the GHRP/CJC experiment but it will take a while to see any results and you have to pin 2-3x a day. :(