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    Old member returning with igf-1 lr3, ipa, cjc 1293, 95 and hgh frag timing/synergy?

    Hello again! Seemed to have remembered my password without ever writing it down. Anyhow, im 39 now. I have read that after cycles, often cortisol levels raise and that isnt something I need with my central serous retinopathy! So from what I understand, igf-1 is one compound that will lower cortisol. I am already going to bang up my vitamin c and use clen . I have a decent amount of igf-1 lr3, ipamorelin, cjc 1293 and the 1295 with DAC of course. Also I have hgh frag. What would be the best to use together synergistically? My guess is igf and 1293, then ipamorelin with the 1295 then the hgh frag alone? Any alterations? I am not going to run any anabolics throughout this and want this phase to last about 10 weeks. I know how to mix and dose because of several kits of gh already through my system last year with decent results. Just finishing a sust/lo dose tren /t3clen/aromasin cycle that is tapering down with var after the tren was dropped. Thanks.

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    Got it. I realized I left some information out like my goals in order of importance and duration of each. I'm going to go with igf-1 pwo, ipamorelin and mod grf "1293" pinned together morning and before bed to try to keep more of my gains for the next 6 weeks, then move to the 1295 with DAC and hgh frag to burn fat for another 4 weeks. Decently lean right now so This is all going to be good. I have read so much the past couple months but based on most, this is my agenda.

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    Sorry to bring bad news, best of luck with your research

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt29 View Post
    Got it. I realized I left some information out like my goals in order of importance and duration of each. I'm going to go with igf-1 pwo, ipamorelin and mod grf "1293" pinned together morning and before bed to try to keep more of my gains for the next 6 weeks, then move to the 1295 with DAC and hgh frag to burn fat for another 4 weeks. Decently lean right now so This is all going to be good. I have read so much the past couple months but based on most, this is my agenda.
    So many problems here I am unsure where to begin Matt29
    IGF-1 pwo timing...n/a - dose pre-workout, in the AM or whenever - not overly important for lr3

    Mod GRF 1-29 and Ipamorelin is your only combo that makes any sense (however without AAS it wont deliver much value)

    CJC-1295 (DAC) and HGH frag => snake oil....

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    Also curious you say you have eye problems and you are/were running T3?

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    Thanks vette. Im sure what ive read on some other boards is tried and true. Im not quite into PCT from previous cycle yet but was hoping to get even half the result as I got from 3iu gh/ed after my first cycle last year. Stayed lean and strength went up in deadlifts but did lose some benching strength. ran gh through last years cycle with 300 sust/ 300 deca /wk. for 10 weeks. It was a great cycle for me and I continued the gh for 3 months post cycle. So you're saying both the dac and the frag are crap or just that combination is useless? Thanks. Maybe I will just research a vial of each and save the rest for my next run.

    massive: Yes, I did use t3 throughout last years cycle and mid way to the end of this years. 25mcg ed. I was in a bad car accident last spring. Originally the thought of my blurred and darkened vision was from an airbag or my head hitting something else inside the car and causing blunt force trauma. I had excellent vision up until acouple years ago. Used to travel for archery competition. Mostly indoor vegas style and nfaa. It wasnt until early this year that I noticed that I was losing color vision. ie: bug zapper lights appear washed out white with just a hint of purple. Red lit up Exit signs are a pinkish color. Fine vision is bad. In bright light everything in central vision is a bright white haze. Now this is all in one eye. My vision in my non dominant "before all this" eye has not changed. No color or darkened vision. After many tests, I was told I have central serous retinopathy likely brought on by the hydrocortizone I was using a few times a wk for the past 6 years. They said that anything relationg to cortisol like stress or use of corticosteroids would make matters worse for me. They also said that I had a "freckle" on my retina in the macular area that was leaking choroid fluid. They said it may have been there for a long time but wasnt problematic until now. I was told that they didnt know for sure whether the freckle was causing all my vision problems or if the csr was. They said try not to stress. Haha! I have a child who is challenged. She is my superhero. But I do worry about her every day. Stopping that would be not caring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt29 View Post
    So you're saying both the dac and the frag are crap or just that combination is useless? Thanks. Maybe I will just research a vial of each and save the rest for my next run.
    genuine CJC-1295 (DAC) is great if you'd like to become bloated & experience side effects for a best-case scenario - alternative GHRH peptides sermorelin (crappy) and modified GRF 1-29 (best option) deliver some sort of value to men looking to spike GHRP administrations
    HGH fragment peptides are not worthwhile (zero credible success stories are present) at any capacity - harmless snake-oil to excite FDA/etc

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    much appreciated

    This was one of the first sites i joined along with triedia, meso and bb.com. I should have gone with info here and not afar. Great info on the dac. I guess why would I want constant gh pulse right. And on the frag, I may be better off just running real g and taking the necessary precautions in using compounds that stabilize the body systems that it can and may negatively affect. I will say that for some reason my experience with deca last year was much better than tren this year. After four weeks I stopped using it. Almost a depressive state with not a notable difference in strength but even with using an AI, I couldnt care less about sex. Definitely not like me. Was also using finasteride at .4 mg ed. Two weeks after I dropped the tren I was fine. One month after tren I went up 25 lbs raw on deads. Thanks again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt29 View Post
    on the frag, I may be better off just running real g
    absolutely, the real polypeptide remains the king - offering the greatest user-friendliness & results when all is considered

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