Roman's TB-500 log...........

[Times Roman]

Well mates!

The TB-500 showed up today, and 14 mgs are in hand. The injection protocol will be as follows with weekly injections:

Wk1 - 5mg
Wk2 - 2.5mg
Wk3 - 2.5mg
Wk4 - 2mg
Wk5 - 2mg

I believe the injection should be SubQ like the rest of the peps i've taken. But I seem to remember reading others going IM. So I'll read up on that and let you know what i find. If you believe you have the answer, let me know?

Biggest complaint I have is my right rotator cuff.
Next, is a mild/moderate case of tendonitis in my right arm
Next, is some mild knee pain on the right side.

I will be evaluating the efffectiveness of this peptide based on how well I was able to resolve these issues. Not expecting miracles, just some moderate relief.

Cheers!
---Roman

[Times Roman]

1st 5mg injection went smoothly. Pinned SubQ

There were no noticeable flushes as you might find with Niacin, GABA or other peptides.

[Times Roman]

Additionally, I did NOT take on an empty stomach as you would if you were trying to stimulate the pituatary. I'll read up on that some more to see if that is a mistake.

Edit. an hour prior, had a pwo shake. an hour prior to that had a carb/protein meal. so the stomach was more or less empty after all.

[austinite]

I'll be watching this.

[Razor]

Tr why do you never just use real gh?

[lovbyts]

Tr why do you never just use real gh?

$$$, difficult on getting REAL HGH

Strange, if you do a search for TB-500 in the title or body you come up with nothing????

[RaginCajun]

TR, i have some of the same issues and will be interested in your research.

[Times Roman]

Tr why do you never just use real gh?

Going the GH route is VERY risky and expensive. Not only is most of it being sold bogus, but customs is very tight and chance of getting seized also. I am in the process of making a second attempt at acquiring GH, but after the olympics when customs relaxes a bit in the world....

$$$, difficult on getting REAL HGH

Strange, if you do a search for TB-500 in the title or body you come up with nothing????

Really? I thought I tagged this thing sufficiently. Sometimes the search function here doesn't work very well?

[956Vette]

1st 5mg injection went smoothly. Pinned SubQ

There were no noticeable flushes as you might find with Niacin, GABA or other peptides.

Helpful log, happy to be subscribed
TB-500 injections should be side-effect free & pleasant - best of luck!

[Times Roman]

Helpful log, happy to be subscribed
TB-500 injections should be side-effect free & pleasant - best of luck!

so far, so good!

I'm at 24 hours now. No noticeable effects. As expected. But that's the point of a daily log, to make regular journals, right?

I'll try to update daily, but i really don't expect, based on my reading, anything to be noticeable for awhile. So we shall see....! =)

[stpete]

I'm interested as well and will be checking this out.

Good Luck

[JohnnyVegas]

I will also be watching. Good luck.

[Times Roman]

i'm hearing elsewhere that some are pinning IM and others are pinning site specific areas.....

....anyone else have any thoughts on this?

[956Vette]

I have notice no differences when injecting TB-500 (thymosin beta 4) IM in the quads & delts and subcutaneous in the glutes & abdomen

[Times Roman]

I have notice no differences when injecting TB-500 (thymosin beta 4) IM in the quads & delts and subcutaneous in the glutes & abdomen

OK. good to know. I'll continue with SubQ in the abs......

[Chwilbeam]

How much did u pay, and where did u get it from? I'm very interested to see the results of this. Does anyone also know if u will past a urine drug test on this?

[Times Roman]

How much did u pay, and where did u get it from? I'm very interested to see the results of this. Does anyone also know if u will past a urine drug test on this?

I'm going to reserve disclosing that until after my log is complete.

However, the sponsor also sells TB-500, fairly expensive....
http://www.ar-r.com/

but i just noticed that since they redisigned the website, I don't see them offerering TB-500????

I'll contact AR-R and see what's going on

[Razor]

TR ever read up on Datbetrue

[lovbyts]

I'm going to reserve disclosing that until after my log is complete.

However, the sponsor also sells TB-500, fairly expensive....
http://www.ar-r.com/

but i just noticed that since they redisigned the website, I don't see them offerering TB-500????

I'll contact AR-R and see what's going on

Strange, I know they had it listed 2 days ago but you are correct, nothing now.

[vinceproduction]

I ordered a vial last week. I got it but it's unlabeled? Is this normal?

[Times Roman]

TR ever read up on Datbetrue

No. Should I?

Strange, I know they had it listed 2 days ago but you are correct, nothing now.

I just checked and they are out of stock. Evidently, the response for this new product has been a good one for them!

I ordered a vial last week. I got it but it's unlabeled? Is this normal?

If you got it from AR-R you should be g2g. out of the thousands that come here, i've never heard a complaint except maybe about price or sent the wrong thing. if you have any questions, go here and ask them...

http://forums.steroid.com/forumdispl...R-R-s-PRODUCTS

[Razor]

Yea you should. He is like the master of all things in the peptide and gh arena

[AdrenalineJunkie]

Roman I have a question. From what Ive read, the standard recommendations is 2 mg a week for six week. Curious to know why you set yours up like you did and started at 5?

[Times Roman]

I saught advice from someone else that has ran several cycles of it, and this is what they come up with. So I decided to emulate based on that. I may try next time a straight line approach. But if this works, I may just stick with this. Not sure.

There is also a maintenance element to this, and trying to figure out that now. I've heard 2mg/mo. I've also heard 2mg eow. So i'm still researching.

[AdrenalineJunkie]

I saught advice from someone else that has ran several cycles of it, and this is what they come up with. So I decided to emulate based on that. I may try next time a straight line approach. But if this works, I may just stick with this. Not sure.

There is also a maintenance element to this, and trying to figure out that now. I've heard 2mg/mo. I've also heard 2mg eow. So i'm still researching.

Gotcha. Ive also been researching the maintenance element. I have most commonly seen 2mg a month. Ive also seen the eow plan. I dug around for reasons and the conclusion I reached is that your maintenance stage should reflect your loading stage. Typically weeks 4-6 but your plan is a little different. So if you are dosing 2 mg a week during your loading weeks, you want to maintain at 2 mg each month. If you were staggering your injections during loading, you will want to stagger your maintenance. This is just what Ive come across and concluded. I'm new to peptides so take this however you want, figured it might be beneficial to bounce research and plans off each other.

[956Vette]

I ordered a vial last week. I got it but it's unlabeled? Is this normal?

Possibly for a new synthesis/product - have patience & confidence that AR-R will reliably take care of your research needs best they can!

[AdrenalineJunkie]

Mine came unlabeled as well, you don't need to worry.

[vinceproduction]

Good deal, just wanted to make sure. Thanks guys. TR, I'm excited to hear your results.

[Times Roman]

Possibly for a new synthesis/product - have patience & confidence that AR-R will reliably take care of your research needs best they can!

agree. they have too good a rep to risk tarnishing over somthing silly like not taking care of you. they get a lot of business through this board, and they bend over backwards to satisfy.

[Times Roman]

no noticeable improvements or effects...

...not sure if i need to keep this thing journalized on a daily basis. Maybe i should just note the improvements as they occur.

[Times Roman]

I'm not sure why no one else has not asked this question yet. Maybe they have and i need to clean my glasses better.

I do not understand the mechanism that allows TB500 to work.

GHRP-6 is fairly easy to understand. The peptide basically stimulates the pituatary and in turn, the pituatary releases GH. and since GH pulses number in the low tens per day, then the suggested dose rate is 3x per day.

But I don't understand the mechanism at play with TB500.

first, the pep is injected in an aqueus solution SubQ, so it seems to me that it must be broken down quickly and "metabolized" within a matter of a few hours. Yet we pin only once a week?

what pathways are utilized?

what (endocrine?) systems are at play here?

If anyone has an idea on how TB500 works, it would be helpful if you can enlighten me/us?

(wiki is very light on the subject, and the rest seems to be coming from marketing departments hell bent on trying to sell me their product...)

[Times Roman]

(sponsor just contacted me and said they have a small supply of TB-500 which will go fast, and the main shipment will arrive in two weeks....
....fyi)

[Times Roman]

....nothing I can see to log

[956Vette]

....nothing I can see to log

Understandable, very well could be par for the course. Sometimes a few days after TB-500 injections I notice cuticle & hair growth (as if on GH). Thanks for keeping the log up to speed!

[austinite]

Roman, do you sleep on your side?

[Times Roman]

^I am what you call a "toss and turn' kind of sleeper. There was a time, when i worked at the sawmill pulling lumber on the green chain (long side), that i had to sleep on my back with my hands over my head so that the wouldn't fall asleep in the middle of the night.

I doubt anyone here has EVER pulled green lumber over 14 foot for 8+ hours a day? And 30+% of the time, i'm not talking about 2x4's

[austinite]

lol, well that doesnt sound like fun at all!

Anyway... I've got some rotator cuff issues and I'm trying to stop sleeping on my side. I manage to fall asleep on my back but always end up on my side.

[lovbyts]

^I am what you call a "toss and turn' kind of sleeper. There was a time, when i worked at the sawmill pulling lumber on the green chain (long side), that i had to sleep on my back with my hands over my head so that the wouldn't fall asleep in the middle of the night.

I doubt anyone here has EVER pulled green lumber over 14 foot for 8+ hours a day? And 30+% of the time, i'm not talking about 2x4's

Ahh yes the good old days. I remember trying this after seeing the movie. I use to cut wood for a living. Not a full blown logger by any means but some dropping trees and working wood yards cutting, splitting, stacking and such.

[Times Roman]

lol, well that doesnt sound like fun at all!

Anyway... I've got some rotator cuff issues and I'm trying to stop sleeping on my side. I manage to fall asleep on my back but always end up on my side.

I snore when i sleep on my back. And the woman starts poking me when i do, so this is going to be a rough patch for me. Last night i must have slept on my side all nigght as this AM my shhoulders are really sore.

[Times Roman]

Really not much to log. Shoulders seem less sore, but also sleeping on my back more.