Twin's TB-500 Log . (Herniated disc L4 and L5 and a previous shoulder injury )

[Times Roman]

So now I have to ask you. How is it? Are you feeling significantly better? Or is the disc injury going to take a while longer to heal?

[Twin]

So now I have to ask you. How is it? Are you feeling significantly better? Or is the disc injury going to take a while longer to heal?

Going to take a while for it to heal it seems like unfortunately. it feels good if i move around a lot. I dont even notice any pain when on my feet... This week it was feeling good because i was constantly on my feet moving around. This weekend its been annoying me a bit because iv been laying down all weekend. But the burning sensation that i had before is gone. Just that annoying lower back pain is frustrating if i lay down to long. Also sitting is a bitch. Doctor's guess was early march or late february the bulk of my pain should be gone so it should be intresting if the bulk f the pain goes away before then. Lets see how the next 2 weeks go for me. If i notice any good improvements or not. Because like i said before, backs felt good this week because of all the moving imo. Could be the tb500 for all i know but lets see how it does the next 2 weeks... If i see a faster rate of healing or not. These next 2 weeks should make my conclusion up if the tb500 helped with my back or not..

The next 2 weeks should seal the deal ... To this log.


Recap


Back has slowly been getting better. Since its slowly and a new injury i cant decide if tb500 is helping. But this week back felt alot better. But i have added a change in my routine by walking often. But.. I also stopped pt and sit more because of college classes. Lets see what this next 2 weeks being me...



Shoulder without a doubt has been helped with my tb500. I was in a depression already worried that my shoulder stopped making progress and then made good progres the last month... Unlesss its just a"coquidence" but i dont think so.
But for my shoulder i stopped working out completely (the day of my herniated disc was last day of gym completely...since this thursday ). But when i worked out it was light weight exercisesthat was jst for arms and bacm that i did not get any shoulder pain.. Now who knows. Maybe stopping working out eliminated any inlamination that i was getting ? If u want to play devils advocate.? But i personally dont think so.




P.s. sorry for typos and grammar. On my phone. Its annoying to type. My fingers are to big for keyboard..

[jimmyinkedup]

Very nice log. Will be watching the final 2 weeks closely.

[Twin]

Thx jimmyinkedup



Back has only gotten a tiny bit better this week. No big boosting healing . figure with my luck



But my shoulder has been feeling real nice! I took. A nap on my bad shoulder and woke up ache free. I feel like it is now 99% healed. -- I just get these random shocks like 2x a week on my shoulder.(used to be a few times a day just 3 weeks ago ) I truly believe on march 1st i will be ready to make my return to the gym on a very limited routine.(every body part except legs and i will be training in the 15-20 rep range. Short rests. Not optimal but it . Should be good enough to make muscle memory gains. Thats all i care about. )
I already came up with a routine for myself. I dont really expect to make any new gains with it but i believe i can get my muscle memory gains with it by august. Slow and steady.. Slowly but surely...

Very happy with my tb500 results for my shoulder. I can see the light at the end of the tunnnel. 1 more month!!

Maybe i was expecting a miracle for my back but just wasnt much progress that my back has made. Its slow compared to my shoulder results.. But i will give it more time...



I will now be updating this log every other week... And eventually once a month just in case anyone is curious how my shoulder or back is doing..




I still will be doing 5 mg tb500 weekly ... For a while since its so cheap... For anyone curious..

[fries]

Hell yeah man, keep it up. I believe it'll keep helping.

[Twin]

Thx bro.


After my 8th weekly injection i decided to do a 5mg injection every other week...

So i just did my 9th injection.


My back this week has starting seeing much more noticable improvement. Used to almost tear and get overheated and so pissed off from sitting to long in my classes but now its not that bad. Alot better actually. Finally some releif.


Shoulder seems to have taken a little step back in progress because i am a moron, i decided to do push ups to failure. Did about 50-60 of them and was pain free... Which i would not be able to do in december.. BUT, the next day my shoulders 24/7 light dull ache came back. And at night it seems to be annoying me a little. This was monday. But also what i noticed is on wednesday i went to gym and on the hammer press machine and did 30-50-70lbs slow and flexing chest pain free and got a nice pump pain free and also this seemed to make my shoulder feel better. The 24/7 dull ache went away after this.

Now only at night its been pissing me off a little.


I have also been doing more research. And unforunetely i might have a slap tear.



http://www.mhhe.com/hper/physed/athl...h22/22-16b.jpg

Empty can test. "If positive , the pateint has a slap tear"

I had this pain with this test in the past but i am now pain free from this test. But i researched more and it says that my other muscles might be compensating and if i had pain from this test before, i have a slap tear.



Anyways... To sum this up shortly...


Back showing some solid progress this week.

Shoulder night time aches came back but this is because i like a moron did push ups to failure.

But nonetheless i could not do push ups in december and now i can...


I also might have a slap tear, i will try to get an mri with dye to confirm next month...

Dont even know if ill rush into surgery if it is slap tear because i did hammer chest press and felt it 100% in my chest this week completely pain free.. And i can do lateral and rear delt pain free so it can be good enough to train around it... but time will tell...


Just hoping it isnt a slap tear.



But back has been feeling better that i am going to be slowly easing into the gym to get joint strength back. Im talking about extremely light weight and slowly progressing...


^program i designed for myself , going to start extremely light. Proboably going to take me a month to actually start to struggle... Except pull ups i will do high intensity with no weight like iv been doing...

iv been currently doing pull ups monday wednesday friday... Increasing them each time with ease.



If i can train everything in the pic pain free i will be happy. Legs are out of the equation for a while, i dont want to risk...


I will no longer over head press anything or do push ups.






Edit: also when i tried to do chest hammer press with 70lbs in november i rememer as i approached failure my shoulder would get a sharp pain... But now i am pain free... (Took me like 40 reps to reach failure but nonetheless i can go to failure without pain...when before i couldnt)

If anyone is also curious on the lab name for my tb500 you can pm me...

[Times Roman]

I was a little skeptical that the TB would help with a disc issue. I know it certainly helps with my tendonitis.

I think with the TB, I'll just keep a supply around. I don't want to take it all the time, because the long term effects are not well understood, but in the short term, I"M SOLD!!!

[Twin]

Ok i just wanted to make a quick update. My night time pain went away again after the injection and the routine i posted is def out! It is friday night and i still cannot fully extend my arms of the soreness when i trained on monday.. Only been to gym once this week because of this. Going to have to reduce the volume to 2-3 sets.. And see how that goes.. So tb500 doesnt help with reduced soreness for me... I am forced to walk with hands in pocket or they will float in the air bent making me look like a douchebag.. Worse DOMS ever!! Wow.

But i did hammer press machine for chest to failure pain free... Very pleased. Back has also been really starting to pick up the pace and heal... But proboably due to natty healing... But im aure the tb500 helped a little for inflamination purpoaes..

I will update again in 2 weeks and lets hope my shoulder still feels nice as i lower the rep range..

I was thinking 20, 15, 12 is a good rep sceme if i can progressive over load with that.. Pain free i will be good money...(for my chest hammer press)

[jimmyinkedup]

Thanks for the update. Be keeping an eye out in a couple weeks for the next one Twin.

[Twin]

i got a new roommate.. and this roommate is constantly in the room on his computer. the kid has no life . so i havent been able to inject the tb500 as planned(5mg every 2 weeks as maintaince. but looks like i will be doing once a month maintaince and it seems to be working .... since my last injection was 3 weeks ago. and im still pain free.. I will be injecting next weekend.

shoulder has been feeling great. i am training to failure with 2 minute rest 4 sets of hammer chest press 12-15 rep range 3x a week with no pain and gaining strength... since i am on spring break currently for a week, i decided just to take the week off and will return when i get back... i will try the 8-12 rep range for a while on hammer chest press machine. and see how i do with that. but shoulders been feeling good.. the nightly rear delt shoulder pain also went away. i would not say its fully healed because if i lay down on it to sleep ill wake up and it will be stiff compared to my left shoulder.... but its good enough now to train all body parts!! tb500 allowed me to train chest and shoulders again.... my shoulder mass vanished. cant wait to build them up again... thats all i wanted... it aint no miracle drug but it sure does help a lot!

back seems to have stalled in progress again but iv been slacking on the stretches. gotta get back on that...


i will now be doing once a month updates.

[oldnsedentary]

i got a new roommate.. and this roommate is constantly in the room on his computer. the kid has no life . so i havent been able to inject the tb500 as planned(5mg every 2 weeks as maintaince. but looks like i will be doing once a month maintaince and it seems to be working .... since my last injection was 3 weeks ago. and im still pain free.. I will be injecting next weekend.

What, is there no bathroom?

[Times Roman]

the BIG question................

......................in your opinion, do you think the TB helped heal the disc?

[Twin]

What, is there no bathroom?

There is but its filed with fumes and bacterial. Would never inject there. Theres like 6 toilets and 4 urinals for 30 kids... And anyone can walk in on me unless i go to toile and place vial on toilet...

Im off of tb500....


It helped a lot for my shoulder. Is my shoulder fully healed? No.
I am progressing in the 8-12 rep range for hammer strength chest press each week. Training to failure etc... Before tb500 i couldnt even do this.... I couldnt even raise my arm to side without pain...



But ii still am a little achey in the shoulders. So i onow its not fully healed... Im afraid to do cable flies... Or dumbbell work...


But im good enough to train shoulders and chest now pain free.. And my mass is coming back...



I proboably need surgery if i ever want to go heavy again... But tb5000 made me acoid surgery and train chest again...




Now for my herniated disc. Its a new injury so its hard to say. But when i came off tb500 the pain still stayed... Therefore i dont think it helped with the disc...

Once i get more money im going to try a 10mg tb500 run. And it will ne interesting if it helps with my herniated disc then since by that time it will be an old injury. (I will wait for black foday sale haha)


But overall i am pleasewith tb5000...

I can train chest and shoulders again!!! Shoulder is little ahey but good enough to train!! And i get no pain when training so im goood money..


So in conclusion: it helped my shoulder but did not help my herniated disc in my opinon...

I will try tb500 again at 10 mg weekly in november of 2013.. And then we will see if i notice anything with my herniated disc by then...




I will soon be trying out cissus, voltaren gel, and humofort.

Hoping these aid in my shoulder/herniated disc...




Sucks i feel like an old man.



I also will be getting an mri if my insurance doesnt expire by the time iget back home... For my shoulder... To see what condition i, ill post the results in this thread...


But like i said, my guess is rotator cuff impingement, or a slap tear... Just from researching.... But canget mri to confirm...