Seizure letter from Customs...BUT

[Edwin23q]

Hi everyone,

Well I received the dreaded letter from Australian Customs, but can someone explain to me how they came to the conclusion that unmarked vials in an unmarked box were identified as HGH?

For all I care, it could have been Cocain, or heroin, or some magical powder to relieve migraines.

Thanks.

By the way, I'm expecting another letter very soon on the 2nd batch as its late being delivered by 1 week.




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[OnTheSauce]

Sucks

[Soar]

Doesn't take them long to run a test to find out what it is. If they knew the brand I'm guessing it wasn't as unlabeled as you thought.

[Far from massive]

Saw the other day in the Chinese HGH forum where you said they tested your HGH, now I see the letter that clearly states,

Being good suspected on reasonable grounds of being blah blah blah

...Now this surely does not mean your sample was HGH, if HGH, bioavailable, if HGH more than .2 IU's with the rest peptides or Chinese rat poison...just sayin :-)

[Edwin23q]

Saw the other day in the Chinese HGH forum where you said they tested your HGH, now I see the letter that clearly states,

Being good suspected on reasonable grounds of being blah blah blah

...Now this surely does not mean your sample was HGH, if HGH, bioavailable, if HGH more than .2 IU's with the rest peptides or Chinese rat poison...just sayin :-)

Mate that makes no sense, you want me to call the government and ask them to next time add the purity % in there too???
You can send me a 100% pure hgh, if customs seizes it, the letter will be exactly the same.
Your making a pointless statement, not sure if you have a reason for doing so.

Anyway, it is what it is.

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[Edwin23q]

Also for the record I don't get my gh from china or any other Asian country for that matter. My gh isn't even made in china/Asia.

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[likelifting]

I've read posts where posters say 'just ignore it', but the first time I get one of those, I bet my heart rate goes up a little bit.

[likelifting]

BTW...good luck Edwin. Maybe your next shipment makes it through.

[Edwin23q]

BTW...good luck Edwin. Maybe your next shipment makes it through.

Thanks mate, names not Edwin but it can be here, I like their jeans, lol.

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[likelifting]

^ No worries. My name isn't LikeLifting either.

I need some jeans. Off to google edwin jeans.

[Xtralarg]

Like someone already said they key word is 'suspected on reasonable grounds'. They can easily rule out rec drugs by doing very simple and instant tests. They will have seen enough vials of hgh to know what they look like or should look. Whilst it remains a nice thought that they did test the contents of your vials and test positive for hgh I the letter tells you that they only suspect the same and that is enough to allow them to seize. If they had carried out a test with conclusive results then I'm sure the letter would state that.

There is also the possibility that your shipment was not unlabelled however you seem adamant this is not the case so we will rule that out on the grounds that you trust your source not to send labelled hgh to Australia.

[Sheven]

I'd say they made a SDS-Page test with coomasie blue gel and they concluded your stuff is near 22kDa, this being considered by them safe to say its hGH. most logic approach. you can have other substance inside that has the MW near 22kDa, so its not 100% hgh and eve if it was, the quality of hgh is determined by purity, low dimmer, bioactivity, peptide mapping, N,C-terminus not just by identifying by a empirical test is 22kDa.

By the way, in the other thread you claim they said 12IU / vial, i don't see that in the first scanned page, it would be helpful if you scan that too if you have it. I am almost sure they have no idea how many IU you've got there since they cannot test that unless a somatropin CRS and still then they can conclude the concentration in milligrams not in IU.

[Aus]

Why they don't let us use the juice

[marcus300]

Like someone already said they key word is 'suspected on reasonable grounds'. They can easily rule out rec drugs by doing very simple and instant tests. They will have seen enough vials of hgh to know what they look like or should look. Whilst it remains a nice thought that they did test the contents of your vials and test positive for hgh I the letter tells you that they only suspect the same and that is enough to allow them to seize. If they had carried out a test with conclusive results then I'm sure the letter would state that.

There is also the possibility that your shipment was not unlabelled however you seem adamant this is not the case so we will rule that out on the grounds that you trust your source not to send labelled hgh to Australia.

I agree ^^^ sounds like they tested it for everything else and it came back clean and they have seen hgh before so they "suspected on reasonable grounds" thats what it is. I am sure they have labeled hgh somewhere what the use for samples etc.

[Xtralarg]

By the way, in the other thread you claim they said 12IU / vial, i don't see that in the first scanned page, it would be helpful if you scan that too if you have it.

Yes that would be very helpful as it would indicate that it may have been tested.

[Edwin23q]

Yes that would be very helpful as it would indicate that it may have been tested.

Will scan that and post it up. It's on page 2. Just have to edit the photo as it contains a lot of personal info on there.
Will do that in about 12 hours when I get home from work.

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[Aus]

They test it for sure

[Xtralarg]

They test it for sure

Can you quantify that statement please.

[Far from massive]

They test it for sure

Thats good stuff to know, see the problem is there are a whole lot of controversy here about what is in this or that HGH. Is it all peptides is it underdosed etc. Now we know all we gotta do is send it to an Aust PO box with "KEEP OUT" stamped on the box and wait for our letter from customs verifiying all our info...who would have thought it was so easy?

[Far from massive]

Mate that makes no sense, you want me to call the government and ask them to next time add the purity % in there too???
You can send me a 100% pure hgh, if customs seizes it, the letter will be exactly the same.
Your making a pointless statement, not sure if you have a reason for doing so.

Anyway, it is what it is.

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My bad I guess I had you confused with another member who seemed to be saying he knew his HGH was good because Aust. customs tested it and said it was 12Ius of HGH and seemed to feel that meant its real, however if that was not you or not the meaning you meant to convey my apologies. Anyhow while they may send a letter calling it HGH this in no way shows that the product you have is worth a damn.

[Hephens]

Hi everyone,

Well I received the dreaded letter from Australian Customs, but can someone explain to me how they came to the conclusion that unmarked vials in an unmarked box were identified as HGH?

For all I care, it could have been Cocain, or heroin, or some magical powder to relieve migraines.

Thanks.

By the way, I'm expecting another letter very soon on the 2nd batch as its late being delivered by 1 week.

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Don't even bother trying to get hgh or anything into Australia, you simply just can't and if you do your extremely lucky. Myself I have my own method of getting things through. They have seized your first lot, if they seize this second lot and being in a short period of time going to same name and address Isn't going to look good, you might get a knock on the door.

Even though your bluetops didn't come from china/Asia how would you know you probably bought them down the line from some other company that gets his bluetops from china to begin with, most hgh bluetops are fake.

[Hephens]

My bad I guess I had you confused with another member who seemed to be saying he knew his HGH was good because Aust. customs tested it and said it was 12Ius of HGH and seemed to feel that meant its real, however if that was not you or not the meaning you meant to convey my apologies. Anyhow while they may send a letter calling it HGH this in no way shows that the product you have is worth a damn.

Right there most likely nothing more than a strong peptide these blue tops today.

Even though customs marked his as growth hormone sormatropin, they wouldn't have conducted extreme testing to see the quality of the actual powder it's self.

[calstate23]

Hi everyone,

Well I received the dreaded letter from Australian Customs, but can someone explain to me how they came to the conclusion that unmarked vials in an unmarked box were identified as HGH?

For all I care, it could have been Cocain, or heroin, or some magical powder to relieve migraines.

Thanks.

By the way, I'm expecting another letter very soon on the 2nd batch as its late being delivered by 1 week.




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Perhaps who you bought it from just sent you a fake seizure letter and pocketed your cash.........

[Sheven]

Where's the part saying has 12 IU ? I'm suspecting that as being false claim. No customs will give you a quantification testing its enough a positive identification.

[Xtralarg]

Will scan that and post it up. It's on page 2. Just have to edit the photo as it contains a lot of personal info on there.
Will do that in about 12 hours when I get home from work.

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Can you post this letter as promised please.

[Edwin23q]

Can you post this letter as promised please.

This was answered In a different thread.

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[Xtralarg]

This was answered In a different thread.

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Answer it here please, this is where I asked the question I don't want to go searching through other threads, thanks.

[Edwin23q]

Answer it here please, this is where I asked the question I don't want to go searching through other threads, thanks.

OH YES BOSS, WOULD YOU ALSO LIKE ME TO GET YOU A COFFEE??

Whatever.

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[swithuk]

hahaha

[Xtralarg]

OH YES BOSS, WOULD YOU ALSO LIKE ME TO GET YOU A COFFEE??

Whatever.


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What? That was uncalled for. All I'm trying to do is help you and follow up on what you said you would do. I'm not sure what forum your used to but that's not the way we roll here.

[Xtralarg]

Can you post a link to the post on here then? I can't seem to find it. Thank you.

[Xtralarg]

Are you posting a link to the thread where you posted this letter because I can't find it.

Don't come back with some steroid infused rage or immature sarcastic comment I'm only following up on what you said you would do on your thread.

[Sheven]

There is no quantification test on HGH as this would cost huge because they'd need a reference and a HPLC-RP and the quantification would be given only in mg or mcg never in IU. I'm sure you already knew that.

[Xtralarg]

There is no quantification test on HGH as this would cost huge because they'd need a reference and a HPLC-RP and the quantification would be given only in mg or mcg never in IU. I'm sure you already knew that.

That means Edwin is lying then. No wonder he has gone quiet on his thread.

[Edwin23q]

That means Edwin is lying then. No wonder he has gone quiet on his thread.

You would too if you had cops turn up at your door.
Think as you wish, you don't know me and I don't know you., makes no difference to me what you think of me mate. No hard feelings as I know where your coming from, but lets just leave it there for now.

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[Sheven]

You would too if you had cops turn up at your door.
Think as you wish, you don't know me and I don't know you., makes no difference to me what you think of me mate. No hard feelings as I know where your coming from, but lets just leave it there for now.

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Bro is no shame to admit there was no 12 IU mention on your paperwork, you're actually hoping your stuff is good because everybody wants to think they did a good deal purchasing hgh online (even though this goes south most of the times).

[swithuk]

yes i agree . its all a learning curve . theres no shame in making mistakes and learning from them ...
and theres no more a convoluted world than g.h