Ukrainian/Russian Jintropin

[slimshady01]

Both tests were done late morning with no food or drink since previous day.
Second test was done before my daily injections, so 24 hours since previous shot.

My IGF-1 was at 141 ng/ml (lab range: 160-318)

My IGF-1 is now at 692 after taking just 2IU per day for 3 weeks. This is more than I want so I will scale down and retest in a few weeks. I also started Test replacement therapy (75mg Test Prop/week) at the same time so there might have been some synergy going on there.

Wow that's amazing,those igf levels are what 6iu would normally give you!

Also if your on TRT why are they giving you test prop? Prop is in and out in 3-4 days were cyp and enth are the traditional TRT esters used.

[thisAngelBites]

I'm a little confused. I remember reading back somewhere in this thread (or the Chinese thread?) that some substances (peptides or peptides plus something - something in those vials masquerading as HGH) increased IGF1 too much for whatever reason, and that real HGH increases by some amount, but that there was an inflated rise in IGF1. So that if you had real HGH you expected a certain rise, but if it was fake there could be this enormous rise.

I've searched and can't find it, and I'd rather not have to read both theads in their entirety again! Can somebody reiterate this for me?

[slimshady01]

I'm a little confused. I remember reading back somewhere in this thread (or the Chinese thread?) that some substances (peptides or peptides plus something - something in those vials masquerading as HGH) increased IGF1 too much for whatever reason, and that real HGH increases by some amount, but that there was an inflated rise in IGF1. So that if you had real HGH you expected a certain rise, but if it was fake there could be this enormous rise.

I've searched and can't find it, and I'd rather not have to read both theads in their entirety again! Can somebody reiterate this for me?

That was for growth serum test, generics were pulling a score of say 60 on 10iu pinned IM when pharma grade would be in the 20s.. That threw up red flags.

But normally and correct me if I'm wrong per 1iu gh that would normally raise IGF by 100. So if you were on 6iu you could expect a level of 600.. I'm sure it varies by individuals and other factors but it was a mere guideline.

Ill let Marcus chime in, but bottom line if your running licensed GH like that of the Jins I would trust my blood work 100%.

[imom]

Also if your on TRT why are they giving you test prop?

It's all I can find here. I don't mind.

[imom]

I'm a little confused. I remember reading back somewhere in this thread (or the Chinese thread?) that some substances (peptides or peptides plus something - something in those vials masquerading as HGH) increased IGF1 too much for whatever reason, and that real HGH increases by some amount, but that there was an inflated rise in IGF1. So that if you had real HGH you expected a certain rise, but if it was fake there could be this enormous rise.

I've searched and can't find it, and I'd rather not have to read both theads in their entirety again! Can somebody reiterate this for me?

This was Jintropin from a pharmacy, with all the security features verified, etc I suspect that my personal body chemistry maybe be unusual or there is something else going on. My IGF-1 can't be due to the 2IU alone, I wouldn't have thought. I'll have to keep blood testing to get a better picture of what's going on.

[slimshady01]

This was Jintropin from a pharmacy, with all the security features verified, etc I suspect that my personal body chemistry maybe be unusual or there is something else going on. My IGF-1 can't be due to the 2IU alone, I wouldn't have thought. I'll have to keep blood testing to get a better picture of what's going on.

Well it's not a bad thing.. Keep us posted

[The Titan99]

Wow that's amazing,those igf levels are what 6iu would normally give you!

Also if your on TRT why are they giving you test prop? Prop is in and out in 3-4 days were cyp and enth are the traditional TRT esters used.

How do you even dose test P at 75 mg per week? That is a perfect example for the wrong tool for the job. Nebio (I think that's the name) you inject once a month.

[imom]

How do you even dose test P at 75 mg per week?

3 x 25mg per week. I don't have access to everything here in Ukraine. At least the prices are good.

[The Titan99]

3 x 25mg per week. I don't have access to everything here in Ukraine. At least the prices are good.

Well, that sucks. 1/4 ml 3 times a week. I'd be on the lookout for cyp or decoanate.

[AnabolicDoc]

How do you even dose test P at 75 mg per week? That is a perfect example for the wrong tool for the job. Nebio (I think that's the name) you inject once a month.

I think Nebido is intended to be used once every 10 to 14 weeks, according to the manufacturer. It's 1000mg in 4ml of test undecanoate. But I imagine if you're on a higher weekly dose then it would be given more often. It's not approved in all countries, including the U.S.

[marcus300]

I think Nebido is intended to be used once every 10 to 14 weeks, according to the manufacturer. It's 1000mg in 4ml of test undecanoate. But I imagine if you're on a higher weekly dose then it would be given more often. It's not approved in all countries, including the U.S.

I've been on Nebido for years and I am prescribed one shot every 11 weeks and its the best therapy by far imho.

[slimshady01]

Wow you guys are lucky, don't see that here in the states!

[AnabolicDoc]

I've been on Nebido for years and I am prescribed one shot every 11 weeks and its the best therapy by far imho.

Do you supplement with a transdermal towards the end of the 11 weeks?

I could be wrong but I think the UK is their biggest market. I've only heard good things about it, not sure why it's not in the US. It is made by Bayer so they should have some pull :-)

[marcus300]

Do you supplement with a transdermal towards the end of the 11 weeks?

I could be wrong but I think the UK is their biggest market. I've only heard good things about it, not sure why it's not in the US. It is made by Bayer so they should have some pull :-)

I use to be on 12 week protocol but felt a slip around the 11 week mark so got put on 11 week, I don't take anything else and I feel like 21 yrs old again.

The FDA are slowing it down due to some studies what showed some patients having pip, or that's what they say lol

[The Titan99]

PIP every 11 weeks? Bummer. I've been doing ed injections of 4 ml for 8 weeks!! Not counting GH, MGF, IGF-1 and HCG . Can't wait for a break there. They could inject me with an 18 g needle and I wouldn't care if it was every 11 weeks!! I wonder if Nebio is available in Thailand?

[AnabolicDoc]

They have listed on their website the countries in which it is available. I would bet it's nebido.com.

[The Titan99]

They have listed on their website the countries in which it is available. I would bet it's nebido.com.

Thanks. You're right. It's a very short list.

[BG]

Its bullshit the 4iu kits are more per iu then the 10iu kits. They told me the dont feel the price difference is crucial. Crazy.

[slimshady01]

Its bullshit the 4iu kits are more per iu then the 10iu kits. They told me the dont feel the price difference is crucial. Crazy.

that's why the 10iu are always running out of stock!!

[Sgt. Hartman]

Its bullshit the 4iu kits are more per iu then the 10iu kits. They told me the dont feel the price difference is crucial. Crazy.

They know how convenient those 4iu vials are huh

[snowblowjoe]

4iu vials are wack! Just like titans momma

[Warrior1700]

Its bullshit the 4iu kits are more per iu then the 10iu kits. They told me the dont feel the price difference is crucial. Crazy.

Why get the 4iu anyway over the 10?

[beerdogg]

Why get the 4iu anyway over the 10?

They are out of the 10iu kits right now.

[BG]

Yup and they are trying to push the over stock of 4iu for more an iu. Scammers, they are never happy, have to be greedy.

[Rick Kane]

Has anyone had their IGF levels tested while on these?

[slimshady01]

Has anyone had their IGF levels tested while on these?

Don't think so, at least no one has reported

[Rick Kane]

Don't think so, at least no one has reported

I just paid for one. Have to set the date now. What sucks is my state no longer allows it. Now I have to drive into Washington DC to do it.

[slimshady01]

I just paid for one. Have to set the date now. What sucks is my state no longer allows it. Now I have to drive into Washington DC to do it.

Sweet bro let us know the results!

[imom]

Has anyone had their IGF levels tested while on these?

Yes, my IGF-1 rose a lot after 2 weeks on these.

[MajorPectorial]

They are out of the 10iu kits right now.

Back in at end of July tho I believe.

[slimshady01]

Yes, my IGF-1 rose a lot after 2 weeks on these.

You got from
The same place everyone else did? How much were you taking and how high did igf go .

[beerdogg]

Back in at end of July tho I believe.

They are saying august now.

[marcus300]

Marcustropin is far better its made in the UK

[AnabolicDoc]

I've been pushing for AnabolicDocTropin!

[The Titan99]

Any one know if or when the 10 i.u. vials are available?

[marcus300]

Any one know if or when the 10 i.u. vials are available?

Your better asking your source, no one here could answer.

[marcus300]

I've been pushing for AnabolicDocTropin!

Those are generics and we all know what they are ...................sugar and water

[imom]

You got from
The same place everyone else did? How much were you taking and how high did igf go .

I got mine over the counter here in Ukraine.
After 2 weeks of 2IU/day my IGF-1 rose from 140 to 692 ng/ml.
I started a thread here asking about other people's experience of dose v IGF-1 level but got almost no response. I wonder what kind of IGF-1 levels people are attaining who are taking 4-6 IU/day, and I wonder how unusual my response was (which seems out of the norm compared to others here). Now I am on 1IU/day and last reading was 333 which is nearly ideal in my opinion.

[testluva]

Any one know if or when the 10 i.u. vials are available?

Should be in mid August. I had to settle for the 4iu kits.

[AnabolicDoc]

Those are generics and we all know what they are ...................sugar and water

Now my secret is out!