hgh with peps, eating timing

[dtob]

Ive got mod grf(1-29),ghrp-2 & hgh
protocol is a 2-3x daily pulsitile approach
3 hrs after last meal 100 mcg of each pep and 10 min later 2iu of gh i will be rotating between im and subq
my question is regarding eating after the gh pin
how long must i wait before eating ?
ive searched all over here there and everywhere and all i can find is conflicting times and answers that are far to intellectually superior for me too understand lol
can anyone point me in the right direction of the info i need
any and all help is appreciated

[largerthannormal]

give me time to get to a computer to help answer if no one does before hand.

[largerthannormal]

with the mod grf(1-29) is does not have the DAC ( drug affinity complex) meaning its short-estered GHRH per say.

In terms of eating you will want to pin on a empty stomach, after pinning the combo you safe to eat protein I usually wait about 20 minutes encase there is any fat or carbs in your protein source.

carbs blunt the gh release so you will want to stear clear of these for a MIN half hour-45 minutes.

for the GH pin are you doing this at a seprate time like 2iu once or a total of 6 along side the peps?

as for the gh are you worries in terms of insulin ?

[dtob]

for the GH pin are you doing this at a seprate time like 2iu once or a total of 6 along side the peps?


2iu 10 min after peps


as for the gh are you worries in terms of insulin ?[/QUOTE]


not using insulin
my concern is basically i dont want to do this protocol wrong and blunt my igf response or something so i thought better safe than sorry and ask

[largerthannormal]

lol sorry bro i didnt mean " are you taking insulin "

I meant are you worried about timing your gh shot since HGH is a insulin agoist, and when high amounts of gh are present is stops insulin production. ( this is the timing issue some worry about)

[dtob]

yes ... i think

i read something Dat said about its ok to eat carbs 15 min after peps and fats i think 20 min or so after and he said that after the gh shot its fine to eat staight away as igf values will be constantly high he alikened it to a balloon dropping to shoulder height then swatting it back up with gh
hes way over my head lol
then ive read on here some advice from a current thread recommending dont eat anything that isnt straight protein for 90 min so im a little confused by it all
bottom line i dont want to hamper my pep pulse nor waste my gh by doing things wrong
im not sure if im making sense at all
forgive me for my ignorance i really am trying to learn these protocols

[largerthannormal]

Its very simple bro. your main concern is the peps timing.

you have to consider some people may be taking slightly different versions of the peptides that you have. ghrp-2 and -6 / cjc1295 and the cjc 1295 w/o DAC and the mod grf(1-29) and 1293, 94 and a few others, theres so many.

for what you have the half lifes are very short.

if you want to make it simple, dont eat anything for 30-45 min after pin.

if you want to get technical yes you can eat pure protein right away as it has no affect on the gh pulse.

fat and carbs do yeild a problem but being that the peps you are taking are short lived you can eat carbs and fats to be safe 30 min after pin. Its really no big deal if its 25, 30, 45 or 1 hour... really its just to make sure what you took did its job and gave it time to act

[dtob]

Thanks LTN
I appreciate it lots man

[Granovich]

with the amount of HGH you use , you dont really need peptides!
i know you are planning to get to 6-8 IU ED of HGH. there is no real need to take it with Peptides. get more HGH with that money!

[largerthannormal]

No prob!! And yes.. if your taking GH.. really I wouldn't even mess with the PEPs ... like granovich said!

[dtob]

ya im at roughly 6 iu/day now if it all works out i may go to 12iu/day
i like the pulsatile effect with the peps plus its a cheap release of natural gh even if its only 1-2 iu/pulse thats 3-6 iu extra/day on top of the 6 iu im currently at so....
also i like the fact of it being natural gh i think
the natty stuff is more complete 20kda and 24kda or so ive read and i believe its a nice addition to carry the 22kda jins ( hopefully ) into what the body sees a nice big pulse
im just learning but i can tell you its working some good totally pumped over and above the teste and trene im on and i believe that would be the IGF-1 im feeling

[kaptainkeezy04]

peps increase body's natural production of growth hormone release. Injectable hgh shuts down your body's natural growth hormone release. Seems counter-productive to take both, no?

[dtob]

peps increase body's natural production of growth hormone release. Injectable hgh shuts down your body's natural growth hormone release. Seems counter-productive to take both, no?

i think the key is to not overload with exigeneous gh
there is a protocol for it
take peps wait 10 min
take hgh shot and from what ive read from Dat you wanna keep that shot at a max of 4 iu or less
the body will then see this as a large pulse but not outside of normal range thereby not interfering with your natty production which is why im using this pulsatile approach

[Granovich]

I dont think taking peptides daily will have effect of 3-6 Iu extra!!!
I dont think it works like this
You dont need more than 10 IU
I have heard from a pro that they dont take mre than 15 IU tops
So there is no need for all this confusion
Take Hgh
Go up to 10 IU if u can afford it and use AAS cycles throughout
If u r planning on doing 1 year of HGh
Then u can squeeze 3 cycles there
U can get some serious mass this way!!!!
Some add IgF but peps like ghrp and cjc1295 wont have the impact you think they do

[dtob]

i like it.
gonna keep going like this until my peps run out
if i change anything it will be the addition of insulin which for that pwo injection i will drop the peps this thread is off topic

[Granovich]

Im interested in knowing if insulin really does work in adding muscle
Mass... Cuz i heard
It just makes u fat not really add
Muscle...