Fingers not tingling on GH. fake ?

**MR-FQ320** · 03-01-2013, 02:55 PM

My fingers are not tingling on my GH, Iv been 2iu's for the last four days and 4iu's today, i can see changes in my body, but no tingling fingers, apart from that i feel NOTHING, so is it fake ?

or is the tingling only from chinese generics?

**Sgt. Hartman** · 03-01-2013, 02:58 PM

I definitely wouldn't judge the quality of GH by tingling fingers.

What brand GH is it?

**jimmyinkedup** · 03-01-2013, 02:59 PM

You see changes in your body in 5 days?

**Sgt. Hartman** · 03-01-2013, 03:02 PM

And it's pretty much impossible that 2iu has changed your body in 4 days. You might need to rethink your expectations of GH, results are slow and subtle.

**redz** · 03-01-2013, 03:03 PM

What brand are you running? tingly fingers are not a sure shot indicator.

**MR-FQ320** · 03-01-2013, 03:15 PM

Thanks for the quick reply guys.

I know HGH is slow acting, and my changes are probably due to cardio starting along with T4, but it just coincides, I feel unbelievably good for PCT, can it be something other than GH? I recently did HCG and it didnt feel like this.

The brand is Gen-tropin AQX cartridges which i had verified from another source only dealing in legit GH, then i got told it was a generic, so the least i was expecting was some kind of feeling or other side effects.

**MR-FQ320** · 03-01-2013, 03:18 PM

The thing is, i only bought a months worth so if its crap, I wont buy anymore,

**brazilian86** · 03-01-2013, 03:22 PM

2.5 months on Pharma Tev Tropin 2.5 iu and I see no changes. My IGF 1 is 385

**swithuk** · 03-01-2013, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by MR-FQ320

Thanks for the quick reply guys.

I know HGH is slow acting, and my changes are probably due to cardio starting along with T4, but it just coincides, I feel unbelievably good for PCT, can it be something other than GH? I recently did HCG and it didnt feel like this.

The brand is Gen-tropin AQX cartridges which i had verified from another source only dealing in legit GH, then i got told it was a generic, so the least i was expecting was some kind of feeling or other side effects.

t4 takes time too ....and echo what sarg said

**MR-FQ320** · 03-01-2013, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by brazilian86

2.5 months on Pharma Tev Tropin 2.5 iu and I see no changes. My IGF 1 is 385

What are you hoping to achieve? are you OK with no visual progress? is the dose high enough?any other sides?

**MuscleInk** · 03-01-2013, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by brazilian86

2.5 months on Pharma Tev Tropin 2.5 iu and I see no changes. My IGF 1 is 385

Are you reconstituting correctly? Some people denature the product simply because they don't reconstitute correctly or use the wrong concentration ratio of bacstat:GH.

There are several reasons you may not observe effects other than bad product. I don't encounter peripheral sensory neuropathy (PNS - the finger tingling you call it) until I'm above 10ius and I titrate to that dose over many months to prevent the side effects.

**gixxerboy1** · 03-01-2013, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by MR-FQ320

The thing is, i only bought a months worth so if its crap, I wont buy anymore,

you cant tell anything in a month,
I think most have unreal expectations of hgh.
And dont know what you are thinking your going to "feel"

**MR-FQ320** · 03-01-2013, 11:29 PM

Gixx I just thought i would feel something, like wellbeing or tingly fingers or just any signs that im putting this stuff in my body, just so i knew my GH wasnt fake or a placebo.

Tbh it GH sounds like garbage to me, expensive, takes months to work and results are neglible

**testluva** · 03-01-2013, 11:51 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

Are you reconstituting correctly? Some people denature the product simply because they don't reconstitute correctly or use the wrong concentration ratio of bacstat:GH.

There are several reasons you may not observe effects other than bad product. I don't encounter peripheral sensory neuropathy (PNS - the finger tingling you call it) until I'm above 10ius and I titrate to that dose over many months to prevent the side effects.

Like MI said above, I wasn't mixing my GH incorrectly for six months. You need to make sure before adding your Bac water you neutralize the vacuum in the vial by adding air with your syringe. Than you slowly add your Bac water in very slowly along the side of the vial. after adding your bac water you should also see chunks of undissolved powder let it sit for 20 minutes in the refrigerator. (Do not shake it) this will denature your HGH and loose potency. You do not want to denature your HGH, if you see bubbles this is happening and you will loose its potency. Your HGH is very fragile. Muscle Ink helped me out on my reconstitution and wow with only 4ius I'm getting crazy HGH sides.

**gixxerboy1** · 03-02-2013, 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by MR-FQ320

Gixx I just thought i would feel something, like wellbeing or tingly fingers or just any signs that im putting this stuff in my body, just so i knew my GH wasnt fake or a placebo.

Tbh it GH sounds like garbage to me, expensive, takes months to work and results are neglible

for most people it is a waste. I think its worth it if your more advanced, an athlete or older. For the hobby bber its a waste

**MuscleInk** · 03-02-2013, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by testluva

Like MI said above, I wasn't mixing my GH correctly for six months. You need to make sure before adding your Bac water you neutralize the vacuum in the vial by adding air with your syringe. Than you slowly add your Bac water in very slowly along the side of the vial. after adding your bac water you should also see chunks of undissolved powder let it sit for 20 minutes in the refrigerator. (Do not shake it) this will denature your HGH and loose potency. You do not want to denature your HGH, if you see bubbles this is happening and you will loose its potency. Your HGH is very fragile. Muscle Ink helped me out on my reconstitution and wow with only 4ius I'm getting crazy HGH sides.

There ya go! Now you get the credit for the recon-tutorial!

Good job buddy.

**swithuk** · 03-02-2013, 03:42 AM

"neutralize the vacuum in the vial" - i didnt know about this one . ive just been adding the water ?

**MR-FQ320** · 03-02-2013, 04:25 AM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

for most people it is a waste. I think its worth it if your more advanced, an athlete or older. For the hobby bber its a waste

Nice straight talking Gixx, where you been man ?

**Hephens** · 03-02-2013, 05:11 AM

You'll get far more better/extreme results if you use your hgh with AAS and insulin . I never waste my hgh by itself, unless I take it in conjunction with other compounds. Just a waste of money. Even from a low dose of hgh at 2iu are noticeable gains when I use it with other compounds.

**kaptainkeezy04** · 03-02-2013, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by brazilian86

2.5 months on Pharma Tev Tropin 2.5 iu and I see no changes. My IGF 1 is 385

If you're not seeing changed in 2.5 months, then you need to up your dose. I am on test and tren . i added tev tropin 4 iu's a day, and on day 5, my arm pumps were unbearable in the gym, i had to decrease my barbell curl reps. on the test and tren, i noticed fuller looking muscles, but within 5 days on the tev tropin, my whole body looks and feels pumped up all day.

**kaptainkeezy04** · 03-02-2013, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by Hephens

You'll get far more better/extreme results if you use your hgh with AAS and insulin. I never waste my hgh by itself, unless I take it in conjunction with other compounds. Just a waste of money. Even from a low dose of hgh at 2iu are noticeable gains when I use it with other compounds.

agreed. i'll use it for PCT, but other than that, I don't know if i'll use it solo again.

**marcus300** · 03-02-2013, 02:22 PM

Inject 10ius and see what happens for a week or so

**ElectraMaddox** · 03-02-2013, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by MR-FQ320

Gixx I just thought i would feel something, like wellbeing or tingly fingers or just any signs that im putting this stuff in my body, just so i knew my GH wasnt fake or a placebo.

Tbh it GH sounds like garbage to me, expensive, takes months to work and results are neglible

I take hgh frag and I've been on for a few months now... Ever since I started I noticed two things... When I inject before bed my sleeping position changes and my fingers get tingly and go numb... After about a month I noticed my hair looked healthier but that was about it... I know hgh and hgh frag differ a little bit but I don't think you'd see dramatic change in your body comp, not right away at least.

**MR-FQ320** · 03-02-2013, 03:28 PM

I'm thinking about buying 177-191 next for the fat burning properties on pre breakfast fasted cardio, that's all I bought th GH to be honest. Also considering FTTP

**ElectraMaddox** · 03-02-2013, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by MR-FQ320

I'm thinking about buying 177-191 next for the fat burning properties on pre breakfast fasted cardio, that's all I bought th GH to be honest. Also considering FTTP

Now I'm splitting my dosages bc I'm doing am fasted cardio yeah that's what frag is the part of the amino acid chain for fat burning... Hgh is the full chain and it does exactly what it's called.... Grow

**testluva** · 03-02-2013, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by swithuk

"neutralize the vacuum in the vial" - i didnt know about this one . ive just been adding the water ?

Your HGH is very fragile. Adding your Bac water without releasing the vacuum in the vial will cause your Bac water to aggressively hit the powder and therefore cause some denaturing. Look for the bubbles and cloudy white bac water, this will tell you your HGH is loosing its potency by denaturing it. If you see chunks on the bottom let it sit for 15 min and dissolve. "Do not shake it" Mix it correctly and you will see a difference in increased side effects consistent with HGH. Now enjoy the benefits of what you paid for.

**swithuk** · 03-03-2013, 02:52 AM

ok thanks

**MR-FQ320** · 03-03-2013, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by ElectraMaddox

Now I'm splitting my dosages bc I'm doing am fasted cardio yeah that's what frag is the part of the amino acid chain for fat burning... Hgh is the full chain and it does exactly what it's called.... Grow

Are you seeing results ? If we follow your logic with the full chain of aminos then if inject HGHbefore fasted cardio it would accelerate fat loss and grown muscle either at the same Time or later in the gym. Either way I'm still reserved as to whether my gear is legit or not, although I am surprised by what I see in the mirror

**kaptainkeezy04** · 03-03-2013, 09:51 PM

Inject 5 IU's and go workout later. There will be no mistaking if your HGH is real or not. To those people that say they don't notice change until months of use, I feel sorry for them. I notice change in week 1. Not body composition change, but energy/strength/pump in the gym, and my muscles feel hard all day long. I wish I could live on this stuff year-round.

**testluva** · 03-03-2013, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by kaptainkeezy04

Inject 5 IU's and go workout later. There will be no mistaking if your HGH is real or not. To those people that say they don't notice change until months of use, I feel sorry for them. I notice change in week 1. Not body composition change, but energy/strength/pump in the gym, and my muscles feel hard all day long. I wish I could live on this stuff year-round.

I wake up with arms and shoulder hardness at times. And frickin weird sides and numb arms, hands on just 4ius everyday. My Ukraine HGH is nuts. Yup you should be feeling it within weeks if your mixing your HGH correctly.

**kaptainkeezy04** · 03-04-2013, 12:14 AM

Originally Posted by testluva

I wake up with arms and shoulder hardness at times. And frickin weird sides and numb arms, hands on just 4ius everyday. My Ukraine HGH is nuts. Yup you should be feeling it within weeks if your mixing your HGH correctly.

my my hands go numb much quicker if i sleep weird or with them elevated even slightly.

**Knockout_Power** · 03-04-2013, 12:19 AM

notice any sleep habits changing? I noticed around week 3. Actually started getting a full 6-7 hours. This was not the case the 2 years leading up to it

**Wes201** · 03-04-2013, 12:35 AM

most counterfited drug on the planet. if your not getting it from a doc, i wouldnt even take the chance wasting my money....way to expensive

**MuscleInk** · 03-04-2013, 01:01 AM

Originally Posted by Knockout_Power

notice any sleep habits changing? I noticed around week 3. Actually started getting a full 6-7 hours. This was not the case the 2 years leading up to it

^^^This. 15iu of GH now as part of a tren cycle. Nothing keeps me awake!

**kaptainkeezy04** · 03-04-2013, 01:18 AM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

^^^This. 15iu of GH now as part of a tren cycle. Nothing keeps me awake!

huh?! pharm grade? If so, you must be making athlete or CEO money to be able to afford that.

**brazilian86** · 03-04-2013, 02:36 AM

My IGF is 385!!. Its working but actually no fatloss yet. Those levels are good I heard.

**kaptainkeezy04** · 03-04-2013, 04:15 AM

Originally Posted by brazilian86

My IGF is 385!!. Its working but actually no fatloss yet. Those levels are good I heard.

depends on your age. if you have no fatloss after 2.5 months, something is wrong.

**marcus300** · 03-04-2013, 05:50 AM

Originally Posted by testluva

Like MI said above, I wasn't mixing my GH incorrectly for six months. You need to make sure before adding your Bac water you neutralize the vacuum in the vial by adding air with your syringe. Than you slowly add your Bac water in very slowly along the side of the vial. after adding your bac water you should also see chunks of undissolved powder let it sit for 20 minutes in the refrigerator. (Do not shake it) this will denature your HGH and loose potency. You do not want to denature your HGH, if you see bubbles this is happening and you will loose its potency. Your HGH is very fragile. Muscle Ink helped me out on my reconstitution and wow with only 4ius I'm getting crazy HGH sides.

No you dont have to neutralize the vacume, who in the hell toldyou that rubbish, come on!!

**kaptainkeezy04** · 03-04-2013, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

No you dont have to neutralize the vacume, who in the hell toldyou that rubbish, come on!!

lol i was gonna say. I must have been mixing my GH incorrectly for 4 years lol

**testluva** · 03-04-2013, 10:46 AM

Well I was mixing my last 4 kits wrong with very little sides. Now that I've corrected the way I reconstitute my HGH I'm getting crazy sides at 4ius and seeing results in my torso. I'm just trying to explain how to max out the potency of your product. If it works for you continue. If you have doubt talk to any biochemist who will explain denaturing. Learn how to get your $$ worth.