Pwo slin hgh

**human project** · 03-20-2013, 10:50 PM

If taking 10iu's of hgh and 10ius of insulin post workout; is it better to take the hgh immediately post workout and then 35-45min later pin insluin?? I've had mixed advice... Most seem to take both together but I wonder if there is any added benefit to waiting some time to take the insluin

**S&S_ShovelHead** · 03-20-2013, 11:57 PM

If you take both together wouldn't the carbs from your post slin shot affect your hgh? I thought slin & hgh shouldn't be in your system at the same time aswell. Why not shoot the GH pre workout and slin post.

**briansvk** · 03-21-2013, 12:17 AM

Yeah I would also advice as above... Shot HGH about hour before and slin immediately after training...

**Perseverance1** · 03-21-2013, 02:41 AM

I'm pretty sure it needs to be shot at the same time...I'm also pretty sure it mixes to make IGF....so why not just pin IGF instead?

**briansvk** · 03-21-2013, 06:23 AM

It does not need to be shot at the same time this is bullshit... It may be shot as stated above depends on individual protocol and preferences... I would not shot GH after training because of blunting insulin sensitivity.. and insulin post workout has far more positive effects than just IGF production... Same as GH shot before... But there is still a possibility to shot GH before and IGF with slin after workout which could be very cool too.

**human project** · 03-21-2013, 06:58 AM

Originally Posted by briansvk

It does not need to be shot at the same time this is bullshit... It may be shot as stated above depends on individual protocol and preferences... I would not shot GH after training because of blunting insulin sensitivity.. and insulin post workout has far more positive effects than just IGF production... Same as GH shot before... But there is still a possibility to shot GH before and IGF with slin after workout which could be very cool too.

Ok so would it be better to run 5iu hgh 2 hours before I wake up "take when I wake up to pee" then when i wake up take insulin .... Then pre workout take 5iu hgh post workout take igf and slin or would it be better to take 10ius of hgh pre workout and then igf and insulin post workout..... Which would be a better protocol??

**human project** · 03-21-2013, 08:44 AM

Bump....

**S&S_ShovelHead** · 03-21-2013, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by human project

Ok so would it be better to run 5iu hgh 2 hours before I wake up "take when I wake up to pee" then when i wake up take insulin.... Then pre workout take 5iu hgh post workout take igf and slin or would it be better to take 10ius of hgh pre workout and then igf and insulin post workout..... Which would be a better protocol??

This, but I may skip the morning slin shot but that's just me. I know many do, do it. GH 1 hour before workout.

**AlinSR** · 03-21-2013, 09:36 PM

I take the gh and slin at the same time.

**briansvk** · 03-22-2013, 12:50 AM

Originally Posted by human project

Ok so would it be better to run 5iu hgh 2 hours before I wake up "take when I wake up to pee" then when i wake up take insulin.... Then pre workout take 5iu hgh post workout take igf and slin or would it be better to take 10ius of hgh pre workout and then igf and insulin post workout..... Which would be a better protocol??

I would not speculate so much. In the morning just pin slin, wait 15 mins, drink your carb/protein/creatine shake, wait another 15 mins pin GH and eat solid meal in an hour (I am assuming usage of Humalog). Than pin GH hour before workout and slin right after and you are good. But of course you can go as you said in the morning but I don't think there will be much difference. But I would divide the GH dose into 2 separate doses for sure.

Originally Posted by AlinshopRep

I take the gh and slin at the same time.

It is one of the ways to go. Everyone has to find what suits him the best, of course everything depends on individual, dosage etc...

**M302_Imola** · 03-22-2013, 06:19 AM

Originally Posted by S&S_ShovelHead

If you take both together wouldn't the carbs from your post slin shot affect your hgh? I thought slin & hgh shouldn't be in your system at the same time aswell. Why not shoot the GH pre workout and slin post.

when using exogenous GH (HGH) carbs will not effect the GH release. Now if one was using peptides (GHRP/GHRH) then you would need to wait at least 20 mins post injection to have carbs since peps produce an endogenous release in gh

**human project** · 03-22-2013, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by M302_Imola

when using exogenous GH (HGH) carbs will not effect the GH release. Now if one was using peptides (GHRP/GHRH) then you would need to wait at least 20 mins post injection to have carbs since peps produce an endogenous release in gh

Will the insulin affect the up take or my body's usage of the hgh?? Will one blunt the other??

**S&S_ShovelHead** · 03-22-2013, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by M302_Imola

when using exogenous GH (HGH) carbs will not effect the GH release. Now if one was using peptides (GHRP/GHRH) then you would need to wait at least 20 mins post injection to have carbs since peps produce an endogenous release in gh

Thats what I thought. Why do people say to wait an hour to eat after a hgh shot then?

**Faster** · 03-22-2013, 04:20 PM

Good thread, thank you guys

**human project** · 03-23-2013, 10:54 AM

Bump for more info from people who use a specific protocol or method

**M302_Imola** · 03-25-2013, 05:45 AM

Originally Posted by human project

Will the insulin affect the up take or my body's usage of the hgh?? Will one blunt the other??

No I've never read that the two will counteract each other. I pin my slin and peps at the same time pwo and have had great success. If I was using GH then I would use the same protocol. Don't sweat the small stuff bro you're good to go!

Originally Posted by S&S_ShovelHead

Thats what I thought. Why do people say to wait an hour to eat after a hgh shot then?

I'm not 100% sure but some are worried about pounding a ton of simple carbs right after injecting HGH in fear you could build up insulin resistance that is if you're using a generous amount of HGH (~5iu or more).