Bass's TB500 Log

[bass]

Okay, my turn! got much advice from TR and reading his TB log, and decided to try it and keep a log for others to benefit from. my injuries and sleeping habits are much like TR's, right shoulder rotator cuff pain, sleeping on shoulder, knee pain, left elbow pain and wrists pain.

just ordered 6 vials of 5mg TB500, my plan is to rum it at 5mgs per week for 6 weeks. also ordered 6 2mgs vials from ARR and will run that once a week (2mgs) until all finished. what do you guys think? please feel free to make suggestions.

Edited, adding List of injuries currently having issues with,

1. right rotator cuff pain (severe)
2. right lower back muscle pain (moderate) probably due to low E2
3. left elbow (moderate)
4. left knee (moderate)
5. both ankles (mild)

[Times Roman]

Personally, I'd stretch the same amount over an 8 week period. six weeks would probably work, especially since that is twice as much as my first run at it. (14mg first time)

I'd probably take the last two 5 mg vials and stretch by pinning 2.5mg the last four weeks, for a total 8 week cycle. I've been thinking about this alot, and I'm thinking no need for a maintenance dose as you might be thinking of after only six weeks.

At this point, there is a lot of subjectivity as to what is the optimal dose/duration, and I suspect it depends on a variety of things like body size, severity and number of injuries, that sort of thing.

Even if you stay with your original 6 week plan, i'm pretty sure you will have an agreeable result.

Good luck~!

---Roman

[bass]

thanks Roman! I'll take your advice and stretch it to 8 weeks. what do you think of injecting 2.5 mgs twice a week protocol? basically I'll do this,

W1 5mgs once
W2 2.5 mgs twice
W3 2.5 mgs twice
W4 2.5 mgs twice
W5 2.5 mgs once
W6 2.5 mgs once
W7 2.5 mgs once
W8 2.5 mgs once

hopefully I'll get them next week and I'll start immediately.

[austinite]

Oh.......... Subscribed.

[Times Roman]

thanks Roman! I'll take your advice and stretch it to 8 weeks. what do you think of injecting 2.5 mgs twice a week protocol? basically I'll do this,

W1 5mgs once
W2 2.5 mgs twice
W3 2.5 mgs twice
W4 2.5 mgs twice
W5 2.5 mgs once
W6 2.5 mgs once
W7 2.5 mgs once
W8 2.5 mgs once

hopefully I'll get them next week and I'll start immediately.

I understand the basic mechanics of how TB works. This is not something like AAS, where one has to pay attention to a certain degree on stable blood serum levels. The best analogy I can think of is more of a vaccine (although this analogy is obviously wrong, it does illustrate the point somewhat). The TB in the system triggers the body into a certain course of action like a vaccine. When you take a vaccine, the body recognizes these "agents" as foreign, and triggers the production of anti-bodies for a period of time, sometimes up to ten years or longer. Although this is not the case with TB, I think it helps describe why something so easily consumed by the body, only needs to be pinned once a week. This peptide is relatively simple, as it is a 43 chain amino acid, and I'm pretty sure it is consumed by the body within hours after pinning. So if we needed "stable blood serum levels" then we'd be pinning all the time just like we do with TNE.

I don't think a more frequent pinning schedule is necessary with TB beyond weekly. But on the other hand, pinning more frequently won't impact the result negatively either.

[bass]

very interesting comparison TR. from all the TB logs I've read no one has split the dose to twice a week, and all have noticed the benefits on week 3-4. since there is no known protocol for TB i am willing to be a guanine pig and be the first to experiment. so i'll stick with my protocol noted above and see what happens. I'll keep you posted.

[Times Roman]

very interesting comparison TR. from all the TB logs I've read no one has split the dose to twice a week, and all have noticed the benefits on week 3-4. since there is no known protocol for TB i am willing to be a guanine pig and be the first to experiment. so i'll stick with my protocol noted above and see what happens. I'll keep you posted.

PERFECT! Like i said, I don't see any down side to a semi weekly injection protocol.

You know, it is blokes like us that are pioneering the TB protocol, at least in the world and circles we travel in.

Let us know how it works out with regular posts in your journal

---Roman

[GirlyGymRat]

PERFECT! Like i said, I don't see any down side to a semi weekly injection protocol.

You know, it is blokes like us that are pioneering the TB protocol, at least in the world and circles we travel in.

Let us know how it works out with regular posts in your journal

---Roman

Bass. It helped me tremendously with post op rotator cuff and bicep tears. TR helped me with my protocol. Thankful for his input.

[bass]

^^^ good to know GGR, gives me hope. me too, I read TR's log about 2-3 times and that's what's encouraging me to try it. can't wait to start.

[jimmyinkedup]

I will be following this for sure bass! Thanks for taking the time to log it.

[bass]

you're welcome Jimmy, I read your log as well, and was very informative.

[bass]

okay reconstituted 5mgs with 0.5 ml bac water and injected SQ. this stuff is amazing I feel like supper man! LOL, JK. as expected nothing to report, just wanted you to know I started it. will keep you posted...

[kelkel]

Subscribed as well. Your log backing up TR's and GGR's positive results can help many potential members here. We all know that medical science always looks toward bodybuilding / weightlifting for new techniques and advancements in the science of growth and repairing the body. We are literally their Guinea pigs.

[Vettester]

Subscribed as well. Looking forward to the results!

[bass]

last night I did chest and my right shoulder was giving me a fit, we'll see if TB will do its thing.

[(Cock-Diesel)]

Subbed. Just got my MRI back on my right shoulder and have a torn rotator cuff and a SLAP Tear in my labrum. Was strongly considering TB so I will be following this for sure.

[SlinKing]

I know nothing of peptides....

is this stuff better than HGH for healing injuries? You could run a few units of pharma GH every day for the same price as this shit.

[Red Bastard]

I know nothing of peptides....
....You could run a few units of pharma GH every day for the same price as this shit.

Not true at all! HGH is daily, long term. TB500 is (on average) weekly, and a relatively short run...

[SlinKing]

Not true at all! HGH is daily, long term. TB500 is (on average) weekly, and a relatively short run...

this is why i say i know nothing of peptides haha! Good to know that TB500 is supposed to heal shit up quick... i'm still skeptical of it tho

[Times Roman]

I know nothing of peptides....

is this stuff better than HGH for healing injuries? You could run a few units of pharma GH every day for the same price as this shit.

you came very close to getting this right, except for the part where you were 100% wrong.

If you shop around, you can do a complete healing cycle of TB lasting 6 weeks for under a hundred dollars.

If you are interested, you can click the link in my signature and learn a little about this peptide.

Up to you

---Roman

[bass]

nothing to update, but just wanted to mention I was on OTC pain killers, 1 ibuprofen twice a day. I stopped the ibu the day I started TB, and yesterday I did biceps, man it was painful, my right shoulder and left elbow pain was killing me. I want to do TB without any pain killers so I can make a better assessment as to how effective it is. will keep you posted.

[Red Bastard]

This is a great blog for me to be following! I have been struggling with a right shoulder rotator cuff impingement for a year now. 2 days ago, I received my shipment. 13 x 2mg vials. I pinned 2mg, and will pin another vial tomorrow. My plan is 4mg/week, for the first 2 weeks, then 2mg per, for the next 9 weeks...

[bass]

This is a great blog for me to be following! I have been struggling with a right shoulder rotator cuff impingement for a year now. 2 days ago, I received my shipment. 13 x 2mg vials. I pinned 2mg, and will pin another vial tomorrow. My plan is 4mg/week, for the first 2 weeks, then 2mg per, for the next 9 weeks...

good, keep me posted. its probably a good idea to log your progress so you can compare it to this one and others.

[Red Bastard]

Yes, I'm going to buy a little notebook, to put in my kit, for logging. Not sure if I'm going to start a thread, but I'll update you occasionally here, if that's alright... I'm pretty excited by the possibilities, as my training has been seriously hampered!

[bass]

Yes, I'm going to buy a little notebook, to put in my kit, for logging. Not sure if I'm going to start a thread, but I'll update you occasionally here, if that's alright... I'm pretty excited by the possibilities, as my training has been seriously hampered!

yes please give me updates so I can compare. wishing you luck on your recovery!

[bass]

couldn't take the pain on my right shoulder, so I took one Naproxen 500, but the pain didn't go away until I started working my shoulders then felt a pop and the pain went away. it must have been something out of place and by luck it popped in place! anyway, back to normal and nothing noticeable enough to mention regarding TB.

[beerdogg]

Friday I ordered 30 mgs of TB500. I'm going to follow your protocol bass for my injuries.

[GirlyGymRat]

Bass. Sharing my experience...hope u don't mind.

My positive experience with TB was based on Physical therapist, PT assist and ortho surgeon indicating recovery and strength was faster then op. PT started 6 weeks post op but I started TB about one one week post op (as soon as I stopped regular dosing of prescription pain meds). PT and ortho made their analysis without knowledge of TB although I DID inquire with ortho b4 surgery. He didn't know or claimed to know nothing of said pep. I later learned he has his own PT biz; I had to go outside his PT clinic cuz not convenient location and insurance issues.

I also took naproxen after ankle surgery. It is bot a substitute for pain meds according to ankle ortho who said works more like alieve sp?

Your shoulder could have been out of position. My favorite massage therapist makes sure my shoulders are aligned. Most massage therapist will not or don't know how. My favorite massage therapist is worth every penny!

couldn't take the pain on my right shoulder, so I took one Naproxen 500, but the pain didn't go away until I started working my shoulders then felt a pop and the pain went away. it must have been something out of place and by luck it popped in place! anyway, back to normal and nothing noticeable enough to mention regarding TB.

[beerdogg]

I went to the mailbox this evening and my package was there. Damn fast service. There are 15 vials of 2mgs each. My goal was to inject 5mgs tonight but accidentally did 6mgs. Injection went fine. Hoping that the pain will go away in both of my forearms and right shoulder.

[beerdogg]

My stuff.

[bass]

Friday I ordered 30 mgs of TB500. I'm going to follow your protocol bass for my injuries.

I highly recommend you follow Time Roman's thread as well, also Jimmy's TB log, lots of good information there. god luck with your treatment, and keep us posted.

[bass]

Bass. Sharing my experience...hope u don't mind.

My positive experience with TB was based on Physical therapist, PT assist and ortho surgeon indicating recovery and strength was faster then op. PT started 6 weeks post op but I started TB about one one week post op (as soon as I stopped regular dosing of prescription pain meds). PT and ortho made their analysis without knowledge of TB although I DID inquire with ortho b4 surgery. He didn't know or claimed to know nothing of said pep. I later learned he has his own PT biz; I had to go outside his PT clinic cuz not convenient location and insurance issues.

I also took naproxen after ankle surgery. It is bot a substitute for pain meds according to ankle ortho who said works more like alieve sp?

Your shoulder could have been out of position. My favorite massage therapist makes sure my shoulders are aligned. Most massage therapist will not or don't know how. My favorite massage therapist is worth every penny!

not at all GGR, every bit of information I get will be helpful for my TB journey. glad it worked for you, I have no doubts TB will help me however I am hoping that the TB I got is real stuff, if not then the seller will get a bad rap! will see.

[bass]

nothing to report but wanted to note an observations. I been noticing allot of popping on my right shoulder, before I couldn't make my shoulder pop even when I tried, but now its popping and when it dose I get some kind of a relief! not sure what this means, but though to make a note of it in case any of you have experienced this.

[GirlyGymRat]

Joints loosening??

[bass]

Joints loosening??

yea that's what I am thinking!

[bass]

took my second 5mgs shot today, I meant to do 2.5mgs but somehow I drew the whole vial and injected. Damn! anyway, nothing new to report.

[GirlyGymRat]

took my second 5mgs shot today, I meant to do 2.5mgs but somehow I drew the whole vial and injected. Damn! anyway, nothing new to report.

It won't hurt u!

[SlinKing]

I went to the mailbox this evening and my package was there. Damn fast service. There are 15 vials of 2mgs each. My goal was to inject 5mgs tonight but accidentally did 6mgs. Injection went fine. Hoping that the pain will go away in both of my forearms and right shoulder.

lawl GWP is always awesome. Caught their 45% off sale last december and GHRP-2 was 5 bucks for 5mgs. holy shit i was a kid in a candy shop

[Brazensol]

I'm getting ready to run a tb-500 cycle while we are in the process of moving since I will be completely out of the weight room and can give it a real chance to heal. I have ran a prior cycle (2 actually) and it absolutely helped. Without it I would not have been able to stay in the gym. I am hoping that by staying away completely from the weights I can heal my forearm tendonosis for once and for all.

I know what you mean about the shoulder popping too. When mine is at it's worst, something gives, there's a pop (and a very sharp but very brief pain), and then relief! It will last anywhere from a couple of hours to a couple of days and then the cycle starts all over again... Usually the pop occurs at night in bed when I'm changing positions trying to get comfortable. I've tried to move my shoulders in all sorts of different ways to duplicate whatever causes it to pop but so far I can figure out the "secret" and just have to wait for it to do it on it's own.

I have noticed the price for tb-500 has gone up considerably since the last time I used it. Some places are charging a ridiculous amount for it.

Good luck. If it's legit stuff you should get some relief. Maybe a lot of relief!

[Times Roman]

yes, the demand for TB is going up, and being the capitalistic market society we are, the prices are going up just as fast.

btw, my shoulders have not hurt for a long time. I'm benching in the 300lb range, and before, my shoulders were always sore. now, it doesn't occur to me that I'm benching the weight and the risk of injury. So the shoulders DID heal, and more or less permanent, (until the next injury).

My tendonitis hasn't bothered me in a long time either. in the past, reverse curls and way too heavy one arm concentration curls were the enemy. Now I'm reverse curling again, and although I'm no where near the dumbell weight I was at before (one arm curls at 80lbs - now taking it easy at 55lbs), there hasn't been any hint of pain either. So I'd slowly like to work my way up to a goal of 100lb one arm curls. But at my age, TB or no, I need to take things real slooooooooow

just a quick update

---Roman