First Insulin cycle

**nafnlaus** · 08-25-2013, 03:07 PM

looking for some opinions/advice

I will be using Novorapid pens, rapid acting.
(http://www.diabetes-support.org.uk/i.../novorapid.jpg)

Starting out subq and then probably moving to IM. Using around 6 units max per injection, doing post workout shots for 3-4 weeks. My friend has though recommended small pre-workout shots while consuming a lot of sugar, for better performance during exercises, any thoughts/experience with this?

So 3x per week up to 6 ius, starting out low and charting the peak and onset while fasting on a non workout day to check my regular response. I will start out with about 15g carbs/iu, munching on glucose tabs every five minutes or so. I will be using a gainer/whey protein, creatine, glutamine and glucosamine but wondering about doses since the insulin will grant more absorption, i was thinking of doing close to double regular doses during the window on injection days. any thoughs on the supplimentation during window?

workouts on injection days will incorporate volume/hypertrophy sets/reps of squats mostly, pulls maybe presses also. training mostly consists of Weightlifting, clean&jerk and snatch complexes with low intensity.

average calories will hopefully be above 3500 with normal food, throwing in some shakes for maybe around 2000 more with good fats and fibers (i skip the peanutbutter in the shakes during insulin window).

please comment

**coupleCC's** · 08-25-2013, 07:32 PM

Insulin PWO too me was pretty disappointing.. maybe 2-3 pounds over several months.

insulin is much better stacked with HGH&AAS. I wouldnt waste my time with it again unless running 50-60 ius of slin and 30-40ius of HGH this time.

**nafnlaus** · 08-26-2013, 07:30 AM

Originally Posted by coupleCC's

Insulin PWO too me was pretty disappointing.. maybe 2-3 pounds over several months.

insulin is much better stacked with HGH&AAS. I wouldnt waste my time with it again unless running 50-60 ius of slin and 30-40ius of HGH this time.

i asked for comments, not trolling

**Capebuffalo** · 08-26-2013, 11:07 AM

Here's a similar thread we have been using. Take a look.

Insulin first timer

**Granovich** · 08-26-2013, 12:39 PM

30-40 iu HGH and 60 iu slin
what the F-U-C-K are you talking about!!!
Maan these guys need to shut up before someone lsn to this and he dies!!!!
Seriously man who the hells runs that much!!!
U must be a retard

**coupleCC's** · 08-26-2013, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by Granovich

30-40 iu HGH and 60 iu slin
what the F-U-C-K are you talking about!!!
Maan these guys need to shut up before someone lsn to this and he dies!!!!
Seriously man who the hells runs that much!!!
U must be a retard

I just told him not too waste his time....

but easy big guy, you must be the insulin champs, by your pick you must have many insulin cycles under your belt.... ffff****in amateur

**nafnlaus** · 08-27-2013, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

Here's a similar thread we have been using. Take a look.

Insulin first timer

thanks, i had alredy looked at it. im not sure if i can get my hands on karbolyn but qnt carbo power should be similar? QNT Carbo Power complex and simple carbs, no fat.

im also wondering how much more creatine and suppliments you are using while in the active window?

**Granovich** · 08-28-2013, 01:35 AM

Originally Posted by coupleCC's

I just told him not too waste his time....

but easy big guy, you must be the insulin champs, by your pick you must have many insulin cycles under your belt.... ffff****in amateur

Im actually knowledgsble with it and running humalog R
Problem ?

**JWP806** · 08-28-2013, 06:42 AM

Originally Posted by granovich

30-40 iu hgh and 60 iu slin
what the f-u-c-k are you talking about!!!
Maan these guys need to shut up before someone lsn to this and he dies!!!!
Seriously man who the hells runs that much!!!
U must be a retard

x2...

**coupleCC's** · 08-28-2013, 10:36 AM

pretty educated eh.. xplains why you both look like shit...

stop weighing in on shit you don't know anything about.. insulin shouldn't be used by someone who is looking to "get gains"

this idea of using insulin is for guys who are either top level competitive athletes or looking to break thru into the elite group of guys.. ****ing punks like you give insulin AAS& bodybuilding a bad name.

but plz, both of you amateur gym rat punks, tell me how its done....

**Back In Black** · 08-28-2013, 10:46 AM

We have a strict no flaming policy here gents.

By all means make you comments but name calling? No thanks.

**nafnlaus** · 08-29-2013, 06:33 PM

what do you think of this as a post workout combo? (i will also add creatine, glutamine and glucosamine)
http://qntuk.com/supp_facts/protein_shake.jpg im not sure what sort of carbohydrates those are, but it would probably suffice for about 5-7iu injection
http://qntuk.com/supp_facts/carbo.jpg the carbohydrates are a combination of slow&fast, maltodextrin and glucose.

**Granovich** · 08-29-2013, 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by coupleCC's

pretty educated eh.. xplains why you both look like shit...

stop weighing in on shit you don't know anything about.. insulin shouldn't be used by someone who is looking to "get gains"

this idea of using insulin is for guys who are either top level competitive athletes or looking to break thru into the elite group of guys.. ****ing punks like you give insulin AAS& bodybuilding a bad name.

but plz, both of you amateur gym rat punks, tell me how its done....

you need to go back to the hospital you ran away from