need input from pharm hgh + insulin users

[kaptainkeezy04]

I have gained fat from insulin use before, and lost a substantial amount of fat with HGH regardless of how "bulky" my diet was.

Can someone please comment on their experience with both HGH and insulin at the same time?

My goal is to bulk while losing body fat, and I know the only way to do that is with HGH.

I am currently on serostim 4 iu a day, and humalog 8-10iu after each workout, and I eat extremely clean while the humalog is active. Dextrose and whey after the injection, and then whole wheat pasta and egg whites an hour later.

The rest of the diet looks like a typical bulk diet.

[diabeticknowledge]

seems to be working out great for every professional athlete out there...

regarding your carbs after insulin injections. how many g/iu do you take?
If you are ingesting the carbs right after injection then the g/iu accuracy is actually unknown. Your body will have covered some carbs before humalog is onset and peaking. Result: you cover the insulin too well - you will gain fat or on the other hand, miscalulations, you do not have the "10g/iu" since your body has been handling the carbs before the injected insulin hits you - death...
charting the effect of insulin will make you capable of adding carbs more accurately - better gains.
still do this with caution and not alone. timing is dependant on many things, so the timing should only be a guideline. if you chart a peak in 35mins sub q, 25 mins intramuscular/venous then you should be drinking your carbs maybe 10 mins before the estimated peak

i would also recommend using maltodextrin