Ukraine Jintropin

**testluva** · 01-05-2015, 09:55 AM

Hey guys, I just received a solicitation email from our old scam friends at Jintropin online. These are the one that sent out originals at the beginning and then when you placed a large order they sent fakes. Be Careful everyone. Marcus posted pics of the fake stuff that was sent.

**lovbyts** · 01-05-2015, 11:26 AM

Ive gotten them in the past also. They are now added to my spam filter.

**marcus300** · 01-05-2015, 12:11 PM

They have never stopped supplying, the crafty fukers

**Buster Brown** · 01-05-2015, 06:00 PM

Thanks for the warning.....I remember how that turned into a mess. Still look at the old legit box and shed a tear.

**ScotchGuard02** · 01-05-2015, 07:01 PM

The scam must work so they keep sending it out. That really chaps my hide.

**testluva** · 01-05-2015, 10:30 PM

Yes that's correct. They even had the security seals wrapping the box. Label where all cheap copies, no literature in box, vials upside down and very little vacuum pressure in vials. If you compared the fakes side by side with the real Ukraine Jins you can tell them apart. If you have no experience with the real stuff you would easily be scanned. Also took them two months to mail out. Again everyone be careful with Jintropin Online selling EU fakes

**Richard 1972** · 02-05-2015, 04:17 AM

i got the real jins

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**thisAngelBites** · 02-05-2015, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by Richard 1972

i got the real jins

My crap jins look exactly like that.

**thisAngelBites** · 02-05-2015, 12:49 PM

I also got several emails pushing to sell more - I guess things are slowing down, sales-wise.

**marcus300** · 02-05-2015, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by thisAngelBites

My crap jins look exactly like that.

I don't think he fully understands what really goes on, we all have been there thinking OUR source is the best

**testluva** · 02-06-2015, 02:56 AM

Originally Posted by Richard 1972

i got the real jins<img src="http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=155201"/>

upload a photo with the box open. Did it include a paper insert in blue letter? Which direction are the vials facing? Take a close up photo of the vial label. Also check the vacuum pressure. It should vacuum pull a 3cc string from top to bottom hard.

**Just_Dude** · 02-08-2015, 12:50 PM

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testluva, do not create stories about EU fakes... GenSci control the production, no one has access to the codes, the pack itself is quite a genuine one. And, of course, the most important thing is the quality when you use the product.

**marcus300** · 02-08-2015, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by Just_Dude

testluva, do not create stories about EU fakes... GenSci control the production, no one has access to the codes, the pack itself is quite a genuine one. And, of course, the most important thing is the quality when you use the product.

GenSci produce fakes its well known and they produce them directly to Russia/Ukraine, we have threads all about it.

**Just_Dude** · 02-09-2015, 05:10 AM

Why GenSci might produce fakes? In Ukraine now can happen anything(even used to happen everything, such people live there), but there's no more Jins in Ukraine any more. I do not know anybody who has seen fresh Ukranian Jins. The only available at the present moment is Russian ones and as they are imported officially there's no fakes.

Concerning the other topic. Quite difficult to say anything, though many things depend on people and shit can happen, though it's not a reason to accuse GenSci in producing fakes and to call source you used a scam.

**marcus300** · 02-09-2015, 05:37 AM

Originally Posted by Just_Dude

Why GenSci might produce fakes? In Ukraine now can happen anything(even used to happen everything, such people live there), but there's no more Jins in Ukraine any more. I do not know anybody who has seen fresh Ukranian Jins. The only available at the present moment is Russian ones and as they are imported officially there's no fakes.

Concerning the other topic. Quite difficult to say anything, though many things depend on people and shit can happen, though it's not a reason to accuse GenSci in producing fakes and to call source you used a scam.

GenSci produce fakes and other growth releasing peps in their hgh to Russia, Ukraine and the underground market. They do it to increase their profit just like Ankbio did you need to understand the full picture and if you read this thread in detail and the Chinese concerns threads and this one Ukrainian/Russian Jintropin things will come clearer for you. I am not saying all jins are fakes but anything from Russia/Ukriane is suspect but if your happy with your product fine stick with it but have you ever ran real pharm grade for any length of time? if so you will know what hgh does and how it feels. Even the Pharmacy's were selling fakes Angel went over and bought directly out of the pharm with a prescription so trust me when we say be very careful.

**Rick Kane** · 02-10-2015, 06:56 AM

Originally Posted by Just_Dude

Why GenSci might produce fakes? In Ukraine now can happen anything(even used to happen everything, such people live there), but there's no more Jins in Ukraine any more. I do not know anybody who has seen fresh Ukranian Jins. The only available at the present moment is Russian ones and as they are imported officially there's no fakes.

Concerning the other topic. Quite difficult to say anything, though many things depend on people and shit can happen, though it's not a reason to accuse GenSci in producing fakes and to call source you used a scam.

A couple of points that I'm sure mods have already pick up on...

First off, you sound like you have a dog in the fight. If members here feel like gensci or europharm sold fakes and buyers felt like they were scammed, why do you care?

Secondly, you signed up on another board and posted the same message. If you're so confident in your product why do you feel the need to prove it to everybody. If you believe it's real that's all that counts right?

Back in the day this would've been a list me thread. Just saying.

**thisAngelBites** · 02-12-2015, 05:24 AM

NOW I get an email from the europharm/jintropin people telling me that the stuff is 10% off. I expect the stuff's on offer because it isn't moving.

**Rick Kane** · 02-12-2015, 07:18 AM

^^^
The advertising pics above must not be generating any interest.

**Just_Dude** · 02-26-2015, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by marcus300

GenSci produce fakes and other growth releasing peps in their hgh to Russia, Ukraine and the underground market. They do it to increase their profit just like Ankbio did you need to understand the full picture and if you read this thread in detail and the Chinese concerns threads and this one things will come clearer for you. I am not saying all jins are fakes but anything from Russia/Ukriane is suspect but if your happy with your product fine stick with it but have you ever ran real pharm grade for any length of time? if so you will know what hgh does and how it feels. Even the Pharmacy's were selling fakes Angel went over and bought directly out of the pharm with a prescription so trust me when we say be very careful.

GenSci and Ankebio are not underground laboratories, they are licensed factories controlled by the government. Both products are impossible to copy as they have a several level of anti-counterfeiting system.

All this story about fake Jintropin looks foggy. You're buying for a couple of year from the source and then one day you realized that it's a fake.

I tried this source by the end of 2012 and keep on doing it and absolutely satisfied. Never taken part in such discussions, but this time my still small voice told me to write my opinion.

**marcus300** · 02-26-2015, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by Just_Dude

GenSci and Ankebio are not underground laboratories, they are licensed factories controlled by the government. Both products are impossible to copy as they have a several level of anti-counterfeiting system.

All this story about fake Jintropin looks foggy. You're buying for a couple of year from the source and then one day you realized that it's a fake.

I tried this source by the end of 2012 and keep on doing it and absolutely satisfied. Never taken part in such discussions, but this time my still small voice told me to write my opinion.

That's my whole point yes they are pharm grade in China and they actually sell fakes to the underground market via various methods. Read the Chinese concerns thread and all will become clear. Two of us from here were paid direct from these so called legit labs to keep our mouths shuts how they were doing it, but we didnt. At one stage I was buying 10k ius per month and ive been dealing with china for over 20yrs and if you read more and take the time and really see whats been written about generics and the two labs in question you will realise what they are capable of doing. But if your happy carrying with the products fair enough best of luck.

**thisAngelBites** · 02-26-2015, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by Just_Dude

All this story about fake Jintropin looks foggy.

All this defence of Jintropin sounds foggy. Everybody knows there are tons of fakes around, and who even knows if there is any real stuff anywhere anymore - they certainly weren't sending it to established customers who had purchased from them previously. Maybe they save them for new customers, who they hope to convince, and then they can start selling them rubbish. At any rate, the word is getting out, and it seems to be affecting their sales -as it should. Serves them right for scamming people.

And Rick Kane had inquired about why you seem to come here, post a handful of threads all in support of Jintropin, and also to another board and post the same jintropin stuff. Why the crusade across a couple of boards all aimed at trying to get people to believe that they should give some more money to the europharm/jintropin people. We all wonder why you're doing this. And we are not as dumb as you think.

**Just_Dude** · 02-27-2015, 02:04 AM

Originally Posted by thisAngelBites

All this defence of Jintropin sounds foggy. Everybody knows there are tons of fakes around, and who even knows if there is any real stuff anywhere anymore - they certainly weren't sending it to established customers who had purchased from them previously. Maybe they save them for new customers, who they hope to convince, and then they can start selling them rubbish. At any rate, the word is getting out, and it seems to be affecting their sales -as it should. Serves them right for scamming people.

Just imagine how it can be organized what you're writing about... it can't be real. If you weren't satisfied with something, of course, there should be some reasons for it, discuss it with the source directly. But such theories can't be true. Those who can make that kind of imports will not fall down to misplacing the product

**thisAngelBites** · 02-27-2015, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by Just_Dude

Just imagine how it can be organized what you're writing about... it can't be real. If you weren't satisfied with something, of course, there should be some reasons for it, discuss it with the source directly. But such theories can't be true. Those who can make that kind of imports will not fall down to misplacing the product

Sorry, but in your haste to increase jintropin sales, I think you missed all the posts where people explained their experiences with the bogus product. Now you comes here and say it can't be real? It IS real, and furthermore, you know it is real. Your job is to go on all the boards and to write some contorted sentences to try and influence people, hoping you will snare some people desperate enough to buy it just because some "dude" posted a bunch of threads and that is what people WANT to believe. But our view is an empirical one versus your theoretical one (and that is being generous, because we can all see you are just a shill). And c'mon, we all know English is not your native language, and yet you are running around joining english boards talking about nothing besides jintropin and how happy you are and how we must be wrong? You're making accounts and not asking any questions, but for some reason feel it is important to give your view? Please; we were not born yesterday. And we know the sales are dropping as we are all getting the increasingly desperate sounding emails offering discounts.

To all the newcomers who have found this thread - please take the time to read through this thread to find out the experiences on people on this forum with this rubbish jintropin. The word has gotten out that this stuff is not what it claims to be, and so now they are getting people to come and post positive experiences on forums to try and snag a new group of people who are dying to try GH and just ripe to be scammed. Do some reading before you waste your money on this stuff:

Ukrainian/Russian Jintropin

And here, about Chinese GH in general: Chinese HGH concerns

The newest thing is to claim that somehow things went bad in Ukraine, but it was nothing to do with the manufacturer or distributor, but NOW you trust Russia and you will be fine. What's that expression? Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice....

**Just_Dude** · 02-27-2015, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by thisAngelBites

Please; we were not born yesterday. And we know the sales are dropping as we are all getting the increasingly desperate sounding emails offering discounts.

I think you a little bit exaggerate saying "the increasingly desperate sounding emails offering discounts"

The newest thing is to claim that somehow things went bad in Ukraine, but it was nothing to do with the manufacturer or distributor, but NOW you trust Russia and you will be fine.

You got the idea, though it's a little bit more complicated story. Generally speaking, you do not want to buy, somebody else wants to buy, but all this isn't related with the product - it was good and it's good. Those who are interested will make lab tests and see what it's.

**thisAngelBites** · 02-27-2015, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by Just_Dude

I think you a little bit exaggerate saying "the increasingly desperate sounding emails offering discounts"

How do you know what I got in my email?

**MIKE_XXL** · 02-27-2015, 10:59 AM

All i know is my great grandma lives in Ukraine and she can still get real Jins...or is it Jeans...either way she scoots over on her walker to the local pharmacy we pay 10.00 bribe and we are good to go...LMAO!

I am 1/4 Ukrainian thou for real...probably about the same percentage as the hGH in the kits...25%.... :-)

**Just_Dude** · 02-27-2015, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by thisAngelBites

How do you know what I got in my email?

It looks like everybody got the same offers.

**thisAngelBites** · 02-27-2015, 11:11 AM

I'm fascinated with how you can infer so positively that everyone was sent the same stuff. Maybe you've got a little insider information. <wink wink>

**MIKE_XXL** · 02-27-2015, 12:03 PM

All that insider info with 11 posts on the board and all of them on Jins from Ukraine...LMAO!

Originally Posted by thisAngelBites

I'm fascinated with how you can infer so positively that everyone was sent the same stuff. Maybe you've got a little insider information. <wink wink>

**thisAngelBites** · 02-27-2015, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by MIKE_XXL

All that insider info with 11 posts on the board and all of them on Jins from Ukraine...LMAO!

It's a remarkable coincidence, isn't it?

**Just_Dude** · 02-27-2015, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by thisAngelBites

It's a remarkable coincidence, isn't it?

I love you, fellas

**aboy92** · 03-01-2015, 04:54 PM

I'm new to this whole hgh thing and started looking into it and of course i came across jintropin being a good quality product for a decent price. Being a college student(4th year engineering major) and tight on money i looked heavily into gensci, different boards, reviews ect. prob over 30 hours. I also emailed Europharm where they redirected me to another source, saying that they deal with individual orders. I was a little skeptical being passed around too many hands and being sent from EU. I like many of you noticed some "dude" posting on many boards reporting these new jintropin to be the new holy grail. Funny thing is the same photo that some "dude" posted is the same exact one i received in an email from the source Europharm sent me to. I even went out of my way to see if gensci would sell to individuals directly in foreign countries where hgh is legal for recreational since i travel to see family often, and yet gensci only some what responded to 2 of my emails. So even the actual company producing the products seem's sketchy.

Few things i noticed, the e-mail from the company that Europharm refered me to is the same from this this site 'jintropin-online'

Best of Luck to everyone trying to get it. Its a seems like a scam to me.

**Buster Brown** · 03-03-2015, 09:14 AM

It is a scam.....you are wise to stay clear.

**Sgt. Hartman** · 03-03-2015, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by marcus300

That's my whole point yes they are pharm grade in China and they actually sell fakes to the underground market via various methods. Read the Chinese concerns thread and all will become clear. Two of us from here were paid direct from these so called legit labs to keep our mouths shuts how they were doing it, but we didnt. At one stage I was buying 10k ius per month and ive been dealing with china for over 20yrs and if you read more and take the time and really see whats been written about generics and the two labs in question you will realise what they are capable of doing. But if your happy carrying with the products fair enough best of luck.

Apart from the fakes they were selling how many people paid and just didn't get their order filled at all? I know he still owes me a couple kits......

**thisAngelBites** · 03-12-2015, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by Sgt. Hartman

Apart from the fakes they were selling how many people paid and just didn't get their order filled at all? I know he still owes me a couple kits......

Do they have the temerity to still email you with offers of discounts?

**Sgt. Hartman** · 03-12-2015, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by thisAngelBites

Do they have the temerity to still email you with offers of discounts?

I just had to look up temerity to see what it means but yes they do.

It was when they were shipping without tracking numbers my pack supposedly got seized. Of course I never got seizure letter and soon after is when they had supply problems and started shipping fakes.

**marcus300** · 03-12-2015, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by Sgt. Hartman

I just had to look up temerity to see what it means but yes they do.

It was when they were shipping without tracking numbers my pack supposedly got seized. Of course I never got seizure letter and soon after is when they had supply problems and started shipping fakes.

That old chest nut. We don't send by tracking its helps to keep it under the radar

**Sgt. Hartman** · 03-12-2015, 02:20 PM

Lol no tracking number = your pack didn't ship

**thisAngelBites** · 03-12-2015, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by Sgt. Hartman

I just had to look up temerity to see what it means but yes they do.

Love that!

But can you imagine writing to someone you ripped off to see if they want to send you some more money?? It beggars belief.

A couple of negative comments about Jins? That means a new shill will be in here in the next 48 hours to talk about how fantastic and real the Jins in Russia are.

**lovbyts** · 03-12-2015, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by thisAngelBites

Love that!

But can you imagine writing to someone you ripped off to see if they want to send you some more money?? It beggars belief.

A couple of negative comments about Jins? That means a new shill will be in here in the next 48 hours to talk about how fantastic and real the Jins in Russia are.

Yeah I can imagine because I have gotten those emails before.

Hey I just sent you refined flour instead of raws but if you send me more money I will send you twice as much. LoL

Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me. No I didn't go for it.