hgh and insuline work well together?

**leanmachine6** · 01-17-2016, 09:52 AM

so ive just started some GH, first time only running a low dose but plan to do so for minimum of 6 months looking to go for a year, started at 1.25IUs yesterday and will up it to 2.25IUS end of the week and eventually go onto 3.5 IUs a day for a long period. will be using anabolics in about 2 months but currently finishing up PCT from last cycle. my freind recons insulin and GH work well together ? i have navorapid which i was going to star pinning post workouts will it make much difference in my results from say pinning 8IU's navorapid post training days ? my GH is pharma grade hence the low dosage and atm im training 1 day on 1 day off as the last 3 months i have been training 5-6 times a week so reducing my training days slightly.

**MIKE_XXL** · 01-17-2016, 11:33 AM

What time do you take you GH? And yes insulin complements the results as GH lowers insulin sensitivity, also addition of T4 is a great way to make your GH more efficient.

**NACH3** · 01-17-2016, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by mike_xxl

what time do you take you gh? And yes insulin complements the results as gh lowers insulin sensitivity, also addition of t4 is a great way to make your gh more efficient.

BOOM!

**Cold Blooded** · 01-17-2016, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by MIKE_XXL

What time do you take you GH? And yes insulin complements the results as GH lowers insulin sensitivity, also addition of T4 is a great way to make your GH more efficient.

So you need to take Igf too because HGH depletes your insulin levels? I knew T4 aided the GH but didn't know insulin levels were affected...

**SlimmerMe** · 01-17-2016, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by leanmachine6

...my freind recons insulin ....

Just make sure you read a lot about insulin . Educate yourself. Read a lot in this forum.

SM

**Mp859** · 01-17-2016, 03:36 PM

You don't need slin unless you compete at a high level IMO .

Pics?

**Cold Blooded** · 01-17-2016, 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by Mp859

You don't need slin unless you compete at a high level IMO .

Pics?

So GH doesn't fcuk up your normal insulin levels then?
What does the geezer mean by insulin sensitivity? I'm what sense? I'm confused man

**leanmachine6** · 01-18-2016, 01:27 PM

i take my GH first thing. would say using navorapid only postworkouts help in results ? say at 8 IU's just post workout ? currently on a 1 day on 1 day off split.

**Cold Blooded** · 01-19-2016, 08:29 PM

Anyone?
So do we lose insulin with HGH use? And you don't lose testosterone do you? Surely...

**Mp859** · 01-20-2016, 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by Cold Blooded

Anyone? So do we lose insulin with HGH use? And you don't lose testosterone do you? Surely...

do we lose insulin ? I don't understand the question man

**tarmyg** · 01-20-2016, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by MIKE_XXL

also addition of T4 is a great way to make your GH more efficient.

How? What Dosage?

**MIKE_XXL** · 01-20-2016, 02:35 PM

Are you calling me a geezer? If yuo are my help ends here...

Insulin sensitivity is how well your insulin receptors respond to insulin and how efficiently they metabolize and uptake the glucose...hGH negatively effects that thous your body requires extra insulin to process glucose efficiently...

Two ways to deal with this, skip carbs in post hGH injection or include insulin post shot, one more thing to add to it is that insulins presence is necessary for hGH to stimulate IGF production in the liver...

If you are this unsure on how to incorporate these items together the best way, perhaps getting some professional help may be required, insulin is extremely dangerous and its use should not be taken lightly, its not gear where errors are easily forgettable. Mess up with insulin and you can be in coma, not cool place to spend a weekend...or lifetime...

Originally Posted by Cold Blooded

So GH doesn't fcuk up your normal insulin levels then?
What does the geezer mean by insulin sensitivity? I'm what sense? I'm confused man

**MIKE_XXL** · 01-20-2016, 02:38 PM

I like 100-150mcg per day...

In a nut shell, hGH lowers T3s effectiveness but increases T4 conversion to T3, so instead of adding T3 to the equation, more natural route of action is to introduce additional T4 to take advantage of the improved conversion rate. Proper thyroid balance is necessary for optimum anabolic effect of hGH...

Originally Posted by tarmyg

How? What Dosage?

**Cold Blooded** · 01-20-2016, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by MIKE_XXL

Are you calling me a geezer? If yuo are my help ends here...

Insulin sensitivity is how well your insulin receptors respond to insulin and how efficiently they metabolize and uptake the glucose...hGH negatively effects that thous your body requires extra insulin to process glucose efficiently...

Two ways to deal with this, skip carbs in post hGH injection or include insulin post shot, one more thing to add to it is that insulins presence is necessary for hGH to stimulate IGF production in the liver...

If you are this unsure on how to incorporate these items together the best way, perhaps getting some professional help may be required, insulin is extremely dangerous and its use should not be taken lightly, its not gear where errors are easily forgettable. Mess up with insulin and you can be in coma, not cool place to spend a weekend...or lifetime...

Alright thanks for that info geez.... Sorry, bud lol
Appreciated

**MIKE_XXL** · 01-20-2016, 08:34 PM

GH morning, skip carbs first meal, insulin post work out is ok, 8iu is a good dose, do not increase it until you get used to the slin feeling. Also keep glucose tablets or simple cars with you just in-case you go hypo.

Originally Posted by leanmachine6

i take my GH first thing. would say using navorapid only postworkouts help in results ? say at 8 IU's just post workout ? currently on a 1 day on 1 day off split.

**Mp859** · 01-21-2016, 12:51 AM

Originally Posted by MIKE_XXL

Are you calling me a geezer? If yuo are my help ends here... Insulin sensitivity is how well your insulin receptors respond to insulin and how efficiently they metabolize and uptake the glucose...hGH negatively effects that thous your body requires extra insulin to process glucose efficiently... Two ways to deal with this, skip carbs in post hGH injection or include insulin post shot, one more thing to add to it is that insulins presence is necessary for hGH to stimulate IGF production in the liver... If you are this unsure on how to incorporate these items together the best way, perhaps getting some professional help may be required, insulin is extremely dangerous and its use should not be taken lightly, its not gear where errors are easily forgettable. Mess up with insulin and you can be in coma, not cool place to spend a weekend...or lifetime...

damn mike. He said geezer though lol. I thought maybe I read that wrong or something.

I really like how you work gh and slin together. My favorite and ONLY way.

**Mp859** · 01-21-2016, 12:54 AM

Sent you a pm brotha

**MIKE_XXL** · 01-21-2016, 07:15 AM

answered...

**Cold Blooded** · 01-22-2016, 11:45 PM

I can't remember which thread it was in but someone said something like your test levels deplete when taking GH, is this true? I did ask there but no response...

**Mp859** · 01-23-2016, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by Cold Blooded

I can't remember which thread it was in but someone said something like your test levels deplete when taking GH, is this true? I did ask there but no response...

no this is not true