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    An idiot with peptides... body weight reconstitution and .5ml syringe

    Ok, so i know that the dosage is pretty much up to me, and i know that the less water the better, and i know it kinda depends on my tools available. I'm looking for recommended reconstitutions and protocols. i can do research, but i feel this experience needs to be more personalized because i want to be sure that this doesn't get goofed up by me. this crap wasn't cheap. i also have specific goals. maybe too specific for a vanilla protocol i found on some random web page.

    Here is what i have.

    .5ml Slin pins (for recon i have 1ml syringes, so i can tweak the recon to a simple 1 tick, but how and how much mcg...??? hmmm)
    BAC water

    BPC 157 @ 5mg / vial

    GHRP-2 @ 5mg / vial

    CJC with DAC @ 2mg / vial


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    current BF is 11%. I'm 35 :/

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    i'm just F'ing this all up. [post edited]
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    garbage post deleted. sorry
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    not sure how much mcg i should be taking per injection for all (3) peptides and how many times a day.

    trying to use the body weight method of calculating ones dose...

    http://www.world-of-peptides.com/pep...econstitution/

    i only want to use the big ticks on my .5ml syringe. i have 1ml syringes for recon.

    pay no attention to the attachment. it's garbage too.
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    ok, this is cake and i'm just super dumb. i should have read the directions!!!

    Formula: Amount of total peptide in mcg/ Amount Desired per Unit in mcg= amount of water needed in units
    COUNT YOUR DESIRED TICKS AND DIVIDE YOUR MCG DESIRED PER DOSE BY IT BEFORE YOU DO THE ABOVE FORMULA
    CJC 1295 w DAC mcg vial desired mcg per tick in .5ml syringe desired tick draw added h2o in units of syringe used mls
    600mcg per week 2,000 20 30 100 of those units 1 ml
    GHRP-2 mcg vial desired mcg per tick in .5ml syringe desired tick draw added h2o in units of syringe used mls
    80 mcg 3X per day 5,000 20 4 250 of those units 1.5 ml
    BPC 157 mcg vial desired mcg per tick in .5ml syringe desired tick draw added h2o in units of syringe used mls
    250 MCG 5,000 50 5 100 of those units 1 ml


    done. now on to scheduling with my medisafe app, my phone and waiting for my blood sugar to drop below 80. didn't realize how late it was
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    Do the GHRP-2 with the CJC. Always when blood sugar is low, get a test kit till you are good at predicting. I don't eat any high glycemic carbs at dinner (3 hours before bed) and I always include fiber which slows down the release of sugar. Standard protocal is at bedtime.
    The amount to mix, and the amount to inject is dependent on the dose. My GHRH/GHRP (combo) is prescribed so I never researched the best ratio. However, standard is 200 mcg - 300 mcg. You can go higher but there isn't much reason to do so.
    If I remember right, your the guy with the medical background (or in school)? So, mixing shouldn't be a problem but, just use the search feature if your a little unclear or anxiety is driving you to clarify it.
    I know nothing about BPC-157 yet.
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    lol, thank you.

    You're funny Quester, but I'm a dummy! lol I am going to school though, but only because the stuff is interesting and not because i have a talent for it. -i like the idea of working in a lab and wearing the white coat. we'll see anyways about that. i'm a junior right now and have experience doing other stuff unrelated. i'm probably going to loose about 20 more lbs come this summer when i'll drop off the face of the earth for about 3 years. wish me luck

    I have myself doing the following, but i think i'll up the CJC dosage.

    600mcg / CJC 1295 w/ DAC every week, but i'll bump to 600mcg twice a week [dropped to once a week because i wanted to stretch my money]

    BPC 157 - 250mcg once a day [found this recommendation]

    ghrp2 / 3 times a day at 80mcg [world of peptides recommended i use an mcg/kg of body weight]


    my right forearms ulna kinda hurts when i curl. kinda happened tonight. thinking about resting it a few days. i'm not really sore or anything, but my muscles are tight tight tight.

    -i think i like TB500 better. hasn't been very long though. we'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    red the ben greenfield one when i was doing my dosage estimates. just read it again. i'l like to read the TB 500 version. hold on. being pulled off to bed. i need sleep guys.

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    I'm not convinced that TB500 (Thymosin Beta-4) has much application to bodybuilding or muscle and muscle related injuries. Its main function is angiogenisis (creation of new blood vessels) and the therapeutic applications are angiogenisis in the heart and skin.
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics...hymosin-beta-4
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    I used TB500 a few years ago and percived no effect other than a suspicion that it contributed to my rosacea.
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    My opinion is that the CJC and GHRP are going to do much more for recuperation from injuries related to working out.
    Take the CJC and the GHRP together, they are synergistic. One acts as the gatekey to the GH pulse and the other acts to increase the pulse.

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    I didn't mean to leave out BPC-157, everything I've read sounds promising and the people who support, KELKEL, have my respect. I'm getting some BPC-157, myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quester View Post
    I didn't mean to leave out BPC-157, everything I've read sounds promising and the people who support, KELKEL, have my respect. I'm getting some BPC-157, myself.
    The combo of BPC and TB no doubt made a big difference in healing up from a recent particial shoulder tendon tear.
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    oh yea? !

    what was your BPC dosage? i want to go high end if possible. i believe 500 mcg is upper end.

    the TB helped a lot but this BPC isn't cutting it @250mcg

    my shoulder was feeling bitchy today. kinda sucked away my strength, but i still got a good work out in. i need to get in a rest day after tomorrows session. think i may have kinda made a friend too. TB 500 was amazing for my shoulder last time i used it. incredible. hey quester, women love a vascular man. i feel like i could stand to increase the size of the veins. feel like i need them a little bigger in order to transport more nutrients faster.

    im probably going to go upper end on my cjc as well 1,000mcg, but that'll crunch the pockets more. maybe i'll stick with 600mcg per

    i feel like i didn't get the math right using my .5ml slin pins. maybe i'm just tripping. i followed the instructions to the T.

    hey guys i have another question. if i'm on a calorie surplus, do i account for that in a workout, or add the workout cals + 500 cal surplus plus TDEE? i'm starting to feel like i'm over doing it. i was at 20% surplus and on workout days it's more like 40% i'm not really comfortable with that. fat wise.
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    Not sure I understand the question but this is probably an adequate answer. Get your TDEE, add the modifier to account for your level of increased expenditure (i.e. 1.0 for no exercise or 1.2? for minimal, 1.4? for moderate, etc). Add your surplus (or subtract if loss is the goal).

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    250 x 2 with BPC for about 4 weeks or so. Now down to 250.
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    so i dose BPC at 500mcg. yes that's what i've been doing. how do you like BPC 157, Kel? My joints started to hurt, so i dropped the DBOL .

    some guys complain of joint pain on DBOL. i think it's from them over doing it in the gym. it's got to be related to the fact that i just kept working out 5 days hard. currently looking for some kind of workaround to keep my joints from hurting. probably more time off (1,) and more regimented training routine (2.)

    also did some ab extensions... those really get the abs sore, but god damn does my lower back hate me now. looking for a workaround for that as well. i hope i didn't fuck anything up. my lower back feels fucked up. anything i can do to help those disks?

    going to take my blood sugar now to see how coffee effects it.
    also going to look into whether or not i should have chosen CJC with DAC. i heard that pulsing is better than a bleed.

    thanks for your help.

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    blood sugar is (90) on the left hand and (81) on the right. However, i was using (2) different devices. i should use only 1 device, but it's ok to test the right hand and the left hand... that leads me to worry about how accurate the device i'm using is, but we'll see what the readings are when i start using (1) machine on both hands.

    picked up some baby asprin and donated blood before that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Too-$mall View Post
    lol, thank you.

    You're funny Quester, but I'm a dummy! lol I am going to school though, but only because the stuff is interesting and not because i have a talent for it. -i like the idea of working in a lab and wearing the white coat. we'll see anyways about that. i'm a junior right now and have experience doing other stuff unrelated. i'm probably going to loose about 20 more lbs come this summer when i'll drop off the face of the earth for about 3 years. wish me luck

    I have myself doing the following, but i think i'll up the CJC dosage.

    600mcg / CJC 1295 w/ DAC every week, but i'll bump to 600mcg twice a week [dropped to once a week because i wanted to stretch my money]

    BPC 157 - 250mcg once a day [found this recommendation]

    ghrp2 / 3 times a day at 80mcg [world of peptides recommended i use an mcg/kg of body weight]


    my right forearms ulna kinda hurts when i curl. kinda happened tonight. thinking about resting it a few days. i'm not really sore or anything, but my muscles are tight tight tight.

    -i think i like TB500 better. hasn't been very long though. we'll see.
    You’ve used tb 500 before? What was your experience with it?

    Also what’s your goals for using these peptides?

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    a lot better than bpc 157. i'll tell ya that. maaan. getting BPC 157 was a mistake unless it's better used in combo with TB 500. not sure.

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