Hgh timing

**Alpha-Male** · 05-08-2019, 07:26 PM

Read several threads and other articles, age 43, done it before but for the life of me can’t remember the timing. I know 3-5am or first thing in the morning, but then they always say either early/late afternoon, those phrases can vary from person to person...best ACTUAL time frame for your second dose? Yes I know it varies but the article here gave a 3-5am, so just looking for another specific time range. Appreciate the feedback as always.

**Alpha-Male** · 05-08-2019, 07:44 PM

Also, been so long I can’t remember, but I have some 100u syringes coming, but currently only have the 1cc with .1 marks and not the 10. Are they the same, both equal and IU (with the 1cc bac water mix)?

**HoldMyBeer** · 05-09-2019, 05:38 AM

I do first thing in the morning on an empty stomach, and don't eat for at least 45 minutes after taking it. I've heard of people waking up an hour before their alarm, take it, then go back to sleep for an hour
1cc = 1ml = 100iu
.1cc = .1ml = 10iu

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**Alpha-Male** · 05-09-2019, 03:24 PM

Well based on Red Baron’s article, using 1cc of bac water to reconstitute, and using a 100U pin, every 10 mark (up to 100) equals 1 IU...all I have now are some leftover pins with .1 marks (up to 1)...so with these, and again reconstituting with 1cc of bac water in a 10IU vial of growth, does .1 equal 1 IU or would I need to withdraw all the way to the 1 mark (the entire syringe) to get 1 IU? Sorry, I suck at conversion ratios, well, and apparently math these days smh. Thanks for the help bud.

**HoldMyBeer** · 05-09-2019, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by Alpha-Male

Well based on Red Baron’s article, using 1cc of bac water to reconstitute, and using a 100U pin, every 10 mark (up to 100) equals 1 IU...all I have now are some leftover pins with .1 marks (up to 1)...so with these, and again reconstituting with 1cc of bac water in a 10IU vial of growth, does .1 equal 1 IU or would I need to withdraw all the way to the 1 mark (the entire syringe) to get 1 IU? Sorry, I suck at conversion ratios, well, and apparently math these days smh. Thanks for the help bud.

No need to apologise, different people have different strengths.
Say you have a vial with 10 units HGH
You inject 100iu (1cc) bac water
You now have 1 unit of HGH per 10iu drawn in the syringe
So yes, 0.1cc = 10iu = 1 unit hgh

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**Alpha-Male** · 05-09-2019, 07:38 PM

So basically, with these 1cc insulin pins with the .1 marks, I need to fill the whole thing up to get 1 IU of the vial, assuming I put in 1cc of bac water...same as hitting the 10 mark on a 100U syringe would equal the same...I’m gathering �� again, thanks for the help. Again, it’s a 10IU vial of Jin. I ordered some 100U pins with the 10 marks to make it easier to follow Red Baron’s instructions, but it’s just been so long since I’ve dealt with this stuff, and seriously googled the hell outta this lol

**Ashop** · 05-11-2019, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by HoldMyBeer

I do first thing in the morning on an empty stomach, and don't eat for at least 45 minutes after taking it. I've heard of people waking up an hour before their alarm, take it, then go back to sleep for an hour
1cc = 1ml = 100iu
.1cc = .1ml = 10iu

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Some of the top level guys I work with do the same. They get up at 3am, take their HGH and then back to bed for a few more hours.

**Octaneforce** · 05-12-2019, 06:43 AM

Ive heard of using hgh right before bedtime to “combine” with your natural hgh pulses during sleep. However Broscience has always told me to take it upon waking up in the morning.

**kaptainkeezy04** · 05-13-2019, 09:13 PM

Are you doing hgh by itself or are you combining insulin ?

If not using with insulin, I wouldn't inject anywhere near carb consumption as it basically prevents your body from producing insulin for several hours. I would probably take half of your daily dose just before bed, keep a syringe with the other half of your daily dose on your night stand (reconstituted gh will be just fine at room temp for at least 24 hours) and inject it 4 hours after the bed time dose and then go back to sleep.

**Alpha-Male** · 05-13-2019, 11:50 PM

Well, according to Baron’s article, he says optimal is between 3-5am, then “late afternoon”, I’ve also ready “early afternoon”, it’s just that those phrases can mean diff times to some than others...suppose I could take the time to put more research into, but when a pro BB says, I usually try to listen...what is “late or early afternoon”? 10, 11am? Noon to 2-3pm? I suppose it doesn’t necessarily have to be an exact science, but he mentioned right before bed for those over 50...I don’t mind setting my alarm for 3-5am, getting up and injecting then getting back to bed, my hours are pretty flexible, it’s the second shot I’m concerned with...merely for precision I suppose...and no, no insulin , just super supps.

**Alpha-Male** · 05-13-2019, 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by Octaneforce

Ive heard of using hgh right before bedtime to “combine” with your natural hgh pulses during sleep. However Broscience has always told me to take it upon waking up in the morning.

So if you’re splitting doses, are they suggesting right before bed then first thing upon waking??

**Windex** · 05-14-2019, 05:03 AM

I'm not a fan of the 3-5am approach. So much recovery and health benefits occur when you sleep, disrupting that cycle doesn't feel worth it.

I do it first thing in the morning with no food pre or post injection. I only inject once per day. Seems to be a lot of conflicting information on the dangerous effects on multiple injections during the day. I prefer to air on the causation.

**Alpha-Male** · 05-17-2019, 08:15 PM

Well, I’m far from an expert on this stuff, which is why I prefer to defer to the experts here, but from what I gather, multiple injections have to do with the way your natty GH “pulsates” throughout the day? My sleep patterns have been so off lately I’ve really just been doing when I wake up, which is around 5, but I usually go back to sleep til like 1-2pm smh, and then I’ll take another...I know sometimes this stuff is splitting hairs, but just looking for optimal, which may only be feasibly ascertained by some wicked nonstop bloodwork lol

**Windex** · 05-18-2019, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by Alpha-Male

Well, I’m far from an expert on this stuff, which is why I prefer to defer to the experts here, but from what I gather, multiple injections have to do with the way your natty GH “pulsates” throughout the day? My sleep patterns have been so off lately I’ve really just been doing when I wake up, which is around 5, but I usually go back to sleep til like 1-2pm smh, and then I’ll take another...I know sometimes this stuff is splitting hairs, but just looking for optimal, which may only be feasibly ascertained by some wicked nonstop bloodwork lol

According to Dorian and John Meadows their philosophy is the negative effects of GH like insulin intolerance (that leads to diabetes), as well as the "gut" problems stem from multiple injections per day.

Obviously there's 101 other factors and a lot of bro science at play, in addition to a lot of information still unknown.

If someone isn't pairing the GH with slin I don't believe it be safe/effective to do multiple times per day.

**kaptainkeezy04** · 05-20-2019, 12:11 AM

Originally Posted by Alpha-Male

Well, I’m far from an expert on this stuff, which is why I prefer to defer to the experts here, but from what I gather, multiple injections have to do with the way your natty GH “pulsates” throughout the day? My sleep patterns have been so off lately I’ve really just been doing when I wake up, which is around 5, but I usually go back to sleep til like 1-2pm smh, and then I’ll take another...I know sometimes this stuff is splitting hairs, but just looking for optimal, which may only be feasibly ascertained by some wicked nonstop bloodwork lol

I wouldn’t worry about your natural gh pulses if you’re injecting. The amount you’re injecting is going to make your natural gh pulse so irrelevant. Just inject before bed and inject in the middle of the night. If you’re using insulin which I highly recommend on gh, then that is a different story.