Lab

[Alpha-Male]

Anyone have any current info on a lab that I can send a vial of my growth too to check if it’s viable or not? Willing to sacrifice one. Getting all the signs/symptoms, but still hear they can be faked so, even hearing having bloodwork done can be bogus so I don’t know, I ain’t rich for this pharma grade stuff so, there’s gotta be a lab that can check this crap no? I don’t care, I’ll send a vial from each kit 😶

[Windex]

Run IGF-1 bloodwork. Don't waste time sending it to a lab. Bloodwork less expensive and more reliable.

[Alpha-Male]

Found some old ads that said that isn’t reliable, but I’ll try instead. What levels should I be at if I’m only taking 4IU a day 5on/2off (if it’s real)?

[Windex]

Found some old ads that said that isn’t reliable, but I’ll try instead. What levels should I be at if I’m only taking 4IU a day 5on/2off (if it’s real)?

You compare it to your pre-HGH levels.

If you didn't run IGF-1 before starting HGH then you dropped the soap and don't have any good options to test validity.

Not sure where you read it isn't reliable but it's false. IGF-1 is the only way to validate authenticity on any generic GH.

Bloodwork doesn't really work as a cookie cutter math formula. It's not like 3 IU = between A and B levels and 4 IU is between Y and Z. Too many variables - this is why you do pre bloodwork.

Side effects mean nothing unless you wake up diabetic.

[956Vette]

Anyone have any current info on a lab that I can send a vial of my growth too to check if it’s viable or not? Willing to sacrifice one. Getting all the signs/symptoms, but still hear they can be faked so, even hearing having bloodwork done can be bogus so I don’t know, I ain’t rich for this pharma grade stuff so, there’s gotta be a lab that can check this crap no? I don’t care, I’ll send a vial from each kit 

This has long been the polypeptide drug enthusiast pipe dream

[Alpha-Male]

You compare it to your pre-HGH levels.

If you didn't run IGF-1 before starting HGH then you dropped the soap and don't have any good options to test validity.

Not sure where you read it isn't reliable but it's false. IGF-1 is the only way to validate authenticity on any generic GH.

Bloodwork doesn't really work as a cookie cutter math formula. It's not like 3 IU = between A and B levels and 4 IU is between Y and Z. Too many variables - this is why you do pre bloodwork.

Side effects mean nothing unless you wake up diabetic.

On here. That’s the problem with the threads that say “must read” at top, they’re all like 13 years old, and there seem to be 10-20 diff opinions on this stuff, including timing and should it be before or after a meal, and none of the old ones mention dropping the soap without IGF-1, so again, where can j find the MOST CURRENT views, news, opinions, facts, etc on using growth?!?if I need the peptide I can get, just never read that until just now, I’m your post.

[956Vette]

On here. That’s the problem with the threads that say “must read” at top, they’re all like 13 years old, and there seem to be 10-20 diff opinions on this stuff, including timing and should it be before or after a meal, and none of the old ones mention dropping the soap without IGF-1, so again, where can j find the MOST CURRENT views, news, opinions, facts, etc on using growth?!?if I need the peptide I can get, just never read that until just now, I’m your post.

Trend is overall bearish on HGH.

[Windex]

On here. That’s the problem with the threads that say “must read” at top, they’re all like 13 years old, and there seem to be 10-20 diff opinions on this stuff, including timing and should it be before or after a meal, and none of the old ones mention dropping the soap without IGF-1, so again, where can j find the MOST CURRENT views, news, opinions, facts, etc on using growth?!?if I need the peptide I can get, just never read that until just now, I’m your post.

HGH is not a black and white compound. The way you use it depends on goals, other compounds being used (examples = Insulin or Metformin or MK677), the dose, diet, among many other variables. There is more than one way to use the compound which is why there are many opinions.

That is information you should've researched before using the compound.

Sending GH away to be tested is a waste. You can use statistical data to approximate what your levels "should" be and then run IGF1 bloodwork and look at the results. If it's fake then toss in garbage and do more homework before buying again.

HGH is the most faked compound which is why it's not recommended for beginners. It always requires a lot more understanding and knowledge versus plain jane Testosterone . That's why people become diabetic using HGh because they don't understand how the drug works and they copy paste what they read and don't stop to learn.

[Alpha-Male]

HGH is not a black and white compound. The way you use it depends on goals, other compounds being used (examples = Insulin or Metformin or MK677), the dose, diet, among many other variables. There is more than one way to use the compound which is why there are many opinions.

That is information you should've researched before using the compound.

Sending GH away to be tested is a waste. You can use statistical data to approximate what your levels "should" be and then run IGF1 bloodwork and look at the results. If it's fake then toss in garbage and do more homework before buying again.

HGH is the most faked compound which is why it's not recommended for beginners. It always requires a lot more understanding and knowledge versus plain jane Testosterone. That's why people become diabetic using HGh because they don't understand how the drug works and they copy paste what they read and don't stop to learn.

Guess I’m still not being clear...I TOOK my time reading this forum up and down, and that’s the problem, you have stickies from 13 friggin years ago, and guys with 10 different ways to use/take it. I always do my research, maybe this just isn’t the site for it. I’ve asked all the right questions, PM’d several mods and pros and all that, so I guess I’ll just have to take it a male clinic and chat with a real doc. It’s almost like BBers don’t want to “give away their secrets”, which is ridiculous because I’m not a competitor, obviously. Maybe update your stickies, or revise them, or if any of the pros on here see my questions and maybe wanna go outta their way to take 5 minutes and help...wouldn’t that be nice lol.

[Alpha-Male]

HGH is not a black and white compound. The way you use it depends on goals, other compounds being used (examples = Insulin or Metformin or MK677), the dose, diet, among many other variables. There is more than one way to use the compound which is why there are many opinions.

That is information you should've researched before using the compound.

Sending GH away to be tested is a waste. You can use statistical data to approximate what your levels "should" be and then run IGF1 bloodwork and look at the results. If it's fake then toss in garbage and do more homework before buying again.

HGH is the most faked compound which is why it's not recommended for beginners. It always requires a lot more understanding and knowledge versus plain jane Testosterone. That's why people become diabetic using HGh because they don't understand how the drug works and they copy paste what they read and don't stop to learn.

To be clear, I’m 43, 6’1” 250, around aas nearly 20 years, new to growth, and I’m only looking to take on a moderate HRT level, anti-aging etc, but you can go back and read some of my more recent posts regarding high, and see that within just those responses, I’ve received multiple different responses. So again, maybe a clinic is my best bet. Appreciate the insight ����

[i_SLAM_cougars]

Dave Palumbo still sells the GH test kits I believe. Won’t tell you if it’s watered down, but it will tell you if it’s real or not. Considering it’s not terribly expensive to make, if it has real GH in it, you’re probably going to be good to go.

[Alpha-Male]

Dave Palumbo still sells the GH test kits I believe. Won’t tell you if it’s watered down, but it will tell you if it’s real or not. Considering it’s not terribly expensive to make, if it has real GH in it, you’re probably going to be good to go.

Wouldn’t happen to know how to get in touch with him directly for one of those would ya?

[HoldMyBeer]

Guess I’m still not being clear...I TOOK my time reading this forum up and down, and that’s the problem, you have stickies from 13 friggin years ago, and guys with 10 different ways to use/take it. I always do my research, maybe this just isn’t the site for it. I’ve asked all the right questions, PM’d several mods and pros and all that, so I guess I’ll just have to take it a male clinic and chat with a real doc. It’s almost like BBers don’t want to “give away their secrets”, which is ridiculous because I’m not a competitor, obviously. Maybe update your stickies, or revise them, or if any of the pros on here see my questions and maybe wanna go outta their way to take 5 minutes and help...wouldn’t that be nice lol.

Probably because protocol changes according to your goals.
Usually used first thing in the morning
But sometimes pwo
Sometimes EOD is best
Most of the times ED is
A lot of people do 5/2, but that's mostly to save money
Sometimes it's recommended to supplement with t4, but that depends on the amount you use and how long you've been using it
Slin is synergistic with it, but once again depends on the amount you use and the timing and your goals
People here are just trying to help (for the most part), there's no secret they're trying to keep. The problem is, you really need to know the mechanism of how it works to figure out the best protocol for you, which varies greatly
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As far as testing, I usually just inject 10iu and get igf and HGH levels tested about 2 hours later. You can only tell if it's real this way, not the purity. In general, I've heard add 1-2 iu above what you want to take of pharma extra for generics. But that's just broscience

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[Windex]

I don't find the Test kits useful. You could have a vial that's suppose to have say 15IU of GH and it might only have 1.5IU which then would test positive on the kit. So the user thinks well my Gh is real but I have no idea the potency. Little does the person know it they are injecting less than what their body naturally makes.

I don't know the minimum potency for the GH kit to test positive but the numbers are just a general example.

[almostgone]

To be clear, I’m 43, 6’1” 250, around aas nearly 20 years, new to growth, and I’m only looking to take on a moderate HRT level, anti-aging etc, but you can go back and read some of my more recent posts regarding high, and see that within just those responses, I’ve received multiple different responses. So again, maybe a clinic is my best bet. Appreciate the insight ����

There are 2 tests that are frequently used, Serum GH which most often is used to detect a deficiency, and IGF-1 testing which is useful if you have a baseline value.

Your IGF-1 range is dependent upon your age and your test will provide the reference range.

Also, with serum GH, there is typically more than 1 blood draw since endogenous GH is released in pulses.

Personally, I would drop the GH for a week and go get an IGF-1 test to give you a baseline. IGF-1 levels will return fairly rapidly after you drop the GH injections. Then after restarting the GH injections, go pull your IGF-1 panel again and see how your GH has affected your IGF-1 values.

For instance, my IGF-1 value is typically just over the top of the range (around 218 or so) for my age ( I'm almost 55) without GH injections.
When using GH, ~1.8 iu puts me in the mid- 400s. That is using pharma GH ( Serostim, Omnitrope, Norditropin, Humatrope, etc.).

I would definitely avoid the online test kits as they aren't really useful; they would only indicate the presence of GH not the purity.

To help you get a better idea of the difference between serum GH and IGF-1 tests take a peek at the links below.

https://labtestsonline.org/tests/growth-hormone

https://labtestsonline.org/tests/ins...factor-1-igf-1