Pharma vs. generic gh.. guys who have used both is the difference that big?

**tbjake34** · 08-22-2019, 06:34 PM

I’m thinking about switching the pharm grade gh.. it’s expensive obviously, but is it worth the price? Is the difference that big that it’s woeth the extra cash? Or would it be better to just use more generic? I’ve been on 5 iu of Jin tropin and I’ll be honest I don’t notice a lot from it. I’ve also been on gh for the past 6-8 months straight at 6-5iu a day of generic. I can get humatrope, has anyone used humatrope how is it compare to a generic? Or would just upping my dose to 10iu generic be just as affective as using 3-4iu pharm, that’s all I can afford.

**Windex** · 08-22-2019, 06:41 PM

It really depends on your budget. Pharma HGh is also just as faked as generic. If you don't know what to look for you will get burned just the same.

Really the best thing to do is

1) IGF-1 levels as baseline with no GH
2) Buy 1 HGH vial/kit (generic or Pharma)
3) Retest IGF-1 at 14 and 30 days
4) If you pass 3 then load up on GH from
the SAME batch. So buying say 6 or 12 months at once ".

Alternative is to buy off an AIDs/HIV patient or someone with MWD.

Can also go to an anti aging clinic to get it right off pharmacy shelf.

Bottom line is you need to run bloodwork if your HGH is not coming from your local pharmacy.

Look for labs that offer credits for getting BW tested with their products.

**tbjake34** · 08-22-2019, 07:10 PM

So ur saying there is good generics out there worth using just have to find them?

**tbjake34** · 08-22-2019, 07:12 PM

The main reason I ask if the difference is that big is cuz I recently saw a video with a ifbb pro who always used generics In the past. 12-15iu a day he said. And he just now got pharma for the first time and said at 6 iu of the pharma it was like a night and day difference in the gains and response he had to it. Basically said it was the best he’s ever felt in his life and made gains like never before. Got me wondering if it’s that good it may be worth the price.

**Windex** · 08-24-2019, 05:32 AM

Originally Posted by tbjake34

The main reason I ask if the difference is that big is cuz I recently saw a video with a ifbb pro who always used generics In the past. 12-15iu a day he said. And he just now got pharma for the first time and said at 6 iu of the pharma it was like a night and day difference in the gains and response he had to it. Basically said it was the best he’s ever felt in his life and made gains like never before. Got me wondering if it’s that good it may be worth the price.

Seth feroce?

Like I said there are good genetics that are accurately dosed and there are fake pharma.

The reason HGH is spoken as an "advanced" compound is the majority of everyday AAS users don't have the rolodex to source out real HGH.

There's also a cost vs benefit component for the average gym person that has no intention of standing on stage. For the price of 6IU pHarma GH you could blast and cruise for 5ish years for the same investment.

I'd be hard pressed to see someone have more gains on 1 year of GH vs 5 years of blasting n cruising.

If money is no obstacle then by all means add icing on the cake

**almostgone** · 08-24-2019, 06:18 AM

Originally Posted by tbjake34

I’m thinking about switching the pharm grade gh.. it’s expensive obviously, but is it worth the price? Is the difference that big that it’s woeth the extra cash? Or would it be better to just use more generic? I’ve been on 5 iu of Jin tropin and I’ll be honest I don’t notice a lot from it. I’ve also been on gh for the past 6-8 months straight at 6-5iu a day of generic. I can get humatrope, has anyone used humatrope how is it compare to a generic? Or would just upping my dose to 10iu generic be just as affective as using 3-4iu pharm, that’s all I can afford.

If you can source legit Humatrope, Serostim, Saizen, Omnitrope, Norditropin, etc. you really can't go wrong. With that being said, there are also some legit generics out there.

Just make sure to do your legwork and don't jump at the first available option.

**tbjake34** · 08-26-2019, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by Windex

Seth feroce?

Like I said there are good genetics that are accurately dosed and there are fake pharma.

The reason HGH is spoken as an "advanced" compound is the majority of everyday AAS users don't have the rolodex to source out real HGH.

There's also a cost vs benefit component for the average gym person that has no intention of standing on stage. For the price of 6IU pHarma GH you could blast and cruise for 5ish years for the same investment.

I'd be hard pressed to see someone have more gains on 1 year of GH vs 5 years of blasting n cruising.

If money is no obstacle then by all means add icing on the cake

Yea it was feroce.

**tbjake34** · 08-26-2019, 02:52 PM

I’m so confused about gh dudes I mean some guys say it’s practically worthless and some say it’s a game changer! Luke Sandoe said it’s wprthless and feroce said it’s amazing so wtf? I honestly don’t notice a lot from it but I did notice it when I got up into the 8-10iu range.

**HoldMyBeer** · 08-26-2019, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by tbjake34

I’m so confused about gh dudes I mean some guys say it’s practically worthless and some say it’s a game changer! Luke Sandoe said it’s wprthless and feroce said it’s amazing so wtf? I honestly don’t notice a lot from it but I did notice it when I got up into the 8-10iu range.

In general when I hear two extremes like that, I just assume the truth is somewhere in the middle

**i_SLAM_cougars** · 08-26-2019, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by tbjake34

I’m so confused about gh dudes I mean some guys say it’s practically worthless and some say it’s a game changer! Luke Sandoe said it’s wprthless and feroce said it’s amazing so wtf? I honestly don’t notice a lot from it but I did notice it when I got up into the 8-10iu range.

I think that’s because 8-10ius + is where you need it for real muscle growth. Below that it’s better for keeping you lean, and aiding in recovery.

**almostgone** · 08-26-2019, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by tbjake34

I’m so confused about gh dudes I mean some guys say it’s practically worthless and some say it’s a game changer! Luke Sandoe said it’s wprthless and feroce said it’s amazing so wtf? I honestly don’t notice a lot from it but I did notice it when I got up into the 8-10iu range.

Also, you have to factor in the length of the GH usage. They may not have run it for the same amount of time.

**tbjake34** · 08-28-2019, 02:06 PM

I think it’s a combo of all the above. 8-10iu for a long period of time is what it takes to get huge from gh...

**kaptainkeezy04** · 09-01-2019, 05:38 PM

I would never inject generic's, because of the fact that it could be great one batch and crap the next batch.

A long time ago, I started with Chinese HGH and felt nothing, but was also told to expect nothing so I wasn't upset. Then one day after a couple weeks of the Chinese stuff I got some Pfizer Genotropin from a doctor. I injected 4 IU's before a workout and it was NUTS! Rest between sets went down significantly, and pumps were awesome! Eventually after only a few months, I had abs and veins in my torso with no diet change. Some of my example meals were an 8 oz. filet with a loaded baked potato and a loaded baked sweet potato. And I was usually ending the day with 2 chicken pita's from Jack in the Box lol, and still I was leaner than I had been in years!

Since I can no longer get my stuff from the doctor, I now get Serostim off the black market because the barcode can be verified using Serono's phone app.

The reason I could see some people seeing less results than others from HGH is because perhaps their liver is not as efficient at converting hgh to igf-1. For instance, two people injecting the same amount of HGH could produce drastically different amounts of igf-1 (another reason to take liver detoxifying pills year round).

The reason HGH does take so long to see results is because it creates new muscle tissue from stem cells by telling the stem cells to turn into muscle fibers. The problem is that these very tiny muscle cells are microscopic at first so you don't see the results for a long time until those new muscle cells have a chance to grow and mature.

I hope this helps!

BG · 09-02-2019, 06:41 AM

There is nothing like pharma GH, if your buying generic your wasting your money. Stop giving your money away, save and buy 3-400iu's of pharma gh and see for yourself.

**xxblazenlowxx** · 09-04-2019, 05:33 PM

Pharma or generic if it raises you igf its working, no?

**kaptainkeezy04** · 09-05-2019, 01:20 AM

Originally Posted by xxblazenlowxx

Pharma or generic if it raises you igf its working, no?

No. Human growth hormone is responsible for a lot more than just raising your igf levels.

and this "generic" stuff could just be igf...mixed with god knows what else.