AAS and herniated disc...

**GoldieTheMack** · 12-01-2006, 08:13 AM

Has anyone experienced this, or know someone who has?
Allow me to preface this by saying I'm not blaming aas for the injury or even my endeavor to lift more while on them. I recently hurt my back while making only modest additions to my regular workout amounts. For example the problem (a herniated disc in lumbar region which is impinging on my sciatic nerve) occurred on during the seated row (hammer strength machine), on the second set and 13th rep, not trying to lift the entire gym. Granted my form was less than stellar because of a little cheating at the end, but trust me it was not gross negligence.

The prognosis is this:
1) meds for pain
2) phys therapy for pain, or
3) open back surgery for remedy

I was in denial when the neurosurgeon told me this, and wanted to get both a second opinion and some independent research on the topic. The second opinion is in the works and my research verifies his prognosis. So surgery looks imminent, and is a short rather simple procedure (as surgeries go), but I wanted to know of AR experiences in this area. Thanks guys.
Gold

**AnabolicBoy1981** · 12-01-2006, 09:06 AM

sorry no. but i think i have one of those as well. i reckon one day it will be a huge problem for me.

i remember seeing on tv that they have a good ne procedure for that.

please report your findings and what rout you are going.

best of luck.

**stupidhippo** · 12-01-2006, 09:11 AM

surgery sound a lil drastic... I have big problems with my back and Ive seen meny specialists. also know pretty much about hte subject.. would be helpful to know more about your situation... also how old are u?

**GoldieTheMack** · 12-01-2006, 09:19 AM

Thanks to both of you. Do you still lift vigorously? And do you experience reinjuries at all?

Hippo,

I'm 37, otherwise extremely healthy in every facet, only been hospitalized once with a HS knee injury that did not require surgery.
Gold

**magic32** · 12-01-2006, 09:36 AM

Really sorry to hear that man.

No offense, but if those are the only options provided by your surgeon, you should seek additional counsel. He sounds like a ‘shoot first ask questions later’ kind of a guy, or else he’s allowed his certification and subscriptions to association journals expire.

Maybe I can shed some light on your situation. Firstly, surgery is not required, many people with this condition (and this is very important “who are getting progressively better with time”) never require surgery:
http://www.healthwise.org/kbase/topi...16/surgtrt.htm

Secondly, there are FDA approved non-surgical approaches generally called “Spinal Decompression Treatment” available:
http://www.americanspinal.com/

Thirdly, Sports Medicine centers use scoping as a viable alternative. Arthroscopy is a minimally-invasive surgery and can avoid dissection of the muscle and removal of the bone permitting patients to return to work or resume normal daily activities much sooner than patients who have had "open" back surgery.
http://www.bonati.com/

OPEN BACK SURGERY IS THE LAST AND FINAL OPTION!

M.

**GoldieTheMack** · 12-01-2006, 09:40 AM

Thanks Magic!

Something about going straight to surgery didn't sit well with me. You're a great guy. Keep up the good work.

THANK YOU.
Gold

***Doc.Sust*** · 12-01-2006, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by magic32

Really sorry to hear that man.

No offense, but if those are the only options provided by your surgeon, you should seek additional counsel. He sounds like a ‘shoot first ask questions later’ kind of a guy, or else he’s allowed his certification and subscriptions to association journals expire.

Maybe I can shed some light on your situation. Firstly, surgery is not required, many people with this condition (and this is very important “who are getting progressively better with time”) never require surgery:
http://www.healthwise.org/kbase/topi...16/surgtrt.htm

Secondly, there are FDA approved non-surgical approaches generally called “Spinal Decompression Treatment” available:
http://www.americanspinal.com/

Thirdly, Sports Medicine centers use scoping as a viable alternative. Arthroscopy is a minimally-invasive surgery and can avoid dissection of the muscle and removal of the bone permitting patients to return to work or resume normal daily activities much sooner than patients who have had "open" back surgery.
http://www.bonati.com/

OPEN BACK SURGERY IS THE LAST AND FINAL OPTION!

M.

exactly. alot os disc problems can be allevaited with spinal manipulations or chiro treatment