Runners knee?

[cfiler]

I've been training with the military recently, and my knees have been pretty sore.

I used to do all my cardio on a eleptical machine, but they have me running on a oval track, and running up and down stairs, under ropes, and jumping hurdles now.

Since I've been training with them, I have alot of pain coming from my knees. The outter tendons feel sore, and there is alittle pressue just below the knee when I go up or down stairs. The right knee is alittle more sore than the left, but both are uncomfortable.

I'm thinking it may be runners knee, but not sure.

Are there any good stretches or suppliments that I should be taking? I've tried icing my knees after the training, and it works better than nothing. If I have a hot bath, or use a heating pad, the discomfort goes away, but the tendons feel more tight than without heat. Possible swelling?

I bought a bottle of glucosamine, but it tasted so bad that I couldn't keep it down. I'll have to look into pills instead of the oral oil. (Tastes like phosphate soda)

How about a set of knee braces, shoe inserts, tensor bandage for the training?

Anything negative about starting a cycle while trainging like this?

[magic32]

Glucosamine's properties are amplified by Chondroitin and synergistically effected by MGM. Though this blend will help with inflammation, it only truly works when your problem is very specific. Namely, a loss of cartlidge which is the cushion found in joints between major bones.

However, based on your description, it sounds to me like the problem is simply that you're not wearing the appropriate shoes. This can manifest itself in a variety of ways and typically progresses upward...ankles, knees, hips, back. Forget inserts and supports, and invest in a high numbered New Balance running shoe. The number determines the quality, for example if you bought a TL452 it would be grossly inferior to a RCI1048. The serious outdoor runner (grass, concrete & asphalt) should stay above 850.

There are virtually no drawbacks to cycling during this type of regimen unless you're unable to offset the caloric demands of your workout. Such an aerobic program would be ideal in moderation.

M.

[cfiler]

Hmm... it definately could be my shoes. I just wear a regular pair of sneakers when I'm there. I have two pairs of runners that I can alternate, but they are not specific running shoes, just addidas and nike.

My ankles, back and hips are totally fine, but my knees do have a fair amount of pressure. The military trainer thinks it is just extreamly tight tendons, but I'm having a hard time beliving that.

I was doing cardio for 35-45 minutes daily on an eliptical before starting this military training, and did not have any problems. I would throw in some treadmill running occationally aswell.

The last day I trained with the military was thursday, and I can walk perfectly fine, and do a quick warm up run, but when going up or down stairs I notice some pressure on my knees still.

I'm training in about an hour, so I'll post back up after it's done.

[mavsluva]

Also, if you're experiencing pain in the outside of your knee, you could very well have a runners injury called ITB Syndrome (stands for iliotibial band). The IT band is a long piece of tissue that attaches at the outer pelvis and runs down the side of you leg where it then terminates on the outside of your knee. This piece of tissue is responsible for leg stability and if it becomes agitated, it will cause extreme pain in either your hip or the outside of your knee (or both). A lot of times this is cause by your pelvis being out of line. A physical therapist or a chiropractor can realign your pelvis that often rectifies this problem fairly quickly. There are a few stretches that you can perform to help this problem from reoccuring. I'd explain them to you, but it would be hard to do w/o a picture illustration.

[cfiler]

Well, I just came back from training. (Still sweating ) My knees are kinda tender, and I'm just about to start icing them.

I did try some different stretches before and after and that might have helped alittle.

I think the shoes may be causing the discomfort. I'll try my other pair next day, and see if they are any better.

[mavsluva]

Do you have high arches or low arches? Wide or narrow feet?

[Doc.Sust]

Glucosamine's properties are amplified by Chondroitin and synergistically effected by MGM. Though this blend will help with inflammation, it only truly works when your problem is very specific. Namely, a loss of cartlidge which is the cushion found in joints between major bones.

However, based on your description, it sounds to me like the problem is simply that you're not wearing the appropriate shoes. This can manifest itself in a variety of ways and typically progresses upward...ankles, knees, hips, back. Forget inserts and supports, and invest in a high numbered New Balance running shoe. The number determines the quality, for example if you bought a TL452 it would be grossly inferior to a RCI1048. The serious outdoor runner (grass, concrete & asphalt) should stay above 850.

There are virtually no drawbacks to cycling during this type of regimen unless you're unable to offset the caloric demands of your workout. Such an aerobic program would be ideal in moderation.

M.

i think you meant MSM.....LOL, but hell great post again magic!

[magic32]

i think you meant MSM.....LOL, but hell great post again magic!

So true Doc, my mistake.
I've seen a lot of movies lately, so possibly my subconscious was thinking Metro Goldwyn Mayer...a.k.a. MGM Studios.

Thanks for the save.

M.

[cfiler]

Ok, so I am taking some joint support (Chondroitin, Glucosamine, and MSM) and I had a set of insoles made for my feet this weekend. I guess my arch is alittle higher than normal because the arch is raised alittle.

I'm going to try this today, and see if it makes a difference.

[magic32]

Ok, so I am taking some joint support (Chondroitin, Glucosamine, and MSM) and I had a set of insoles made for my feet this weekend. I guess my arch is alittle higher than normal because the arch is raised alittle.

I'm going to try this today, and see if it makes a difference.

Sounds like a good plan. Just make sure you’re shoes are relatively new, the sole is not the only integral part. The structural integrity of the shoe is also pertinent.

M.

[cfiler]

Sounds like a good plan. Just make sure you’re shoes are relatively new, the sole is not the only integral part. The structural integrity of the shoe is also pertinent.

M.

My shoes are about 3 months old, so they are relatively new.

The insoles seem to be making a huge difference imo. My knees feel fine today.

Have another training session tonight, so I'll see if it continues to work well.

[JJP480]

Have been really hard on my knees for many years now and I can tell you plain truth IT'S ALL ABOUT THE SHOE !!
Change mine up every 4 months .

[cfiler]

The insoles are miracles. I only need them when training.

With the joint support suppliments, my knees feel WAY more lubricated and free.

My knees are 800% better. Still alittle sore, but after icing them, the next day they feel fine for normal activity.