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    FVCK, depression setting in from injury

    My knee is out due to what the P.T. says is damage or inflamation of the cartilage on the back of my patella. My legs were gettin crazy strong and now I havnt hit legs for 6 weeks. Im beginning to get depressed about it. Im still workin my upper body, but this is the first time I have ever had an injury that affected me for more than a week or two. Its really beginning to affect my mentality. I havnt seen ANY improvement either which really concerns me. I have been taking aleve all day and it is even beginning to lose its affects. I just started going to the P.T., but I am skeptical of how much good he can really do, in spite of the fact that I almost went to P.T. school before I decided on a career change. FUK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

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    I have been out for 8 years now with back pain, i have seen all the so called specialist can you imagine how many times i tried to kill myself.

    I lost almost all my 30 years i am 36 now and will be 37 soon.

    I finally found a real medical doctor that knows where he is going i am far from being pain free but improved a lot, dont give up.

    With injury you must be patient, search and you will find the person that can help you get better. It does suck but at some point we all have to modify the way we train.

    I will never squat nor deadlift again not because i wont be able to because theses exercises are way to dangerous.

    Just because of a stupid mistake i made doing them i am fukked.

    There are a lot of knee specilist that can surely help you out, seek a different advise, second opinion, i have seen so many PT some where assholes others where a bit better.

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    HMMMM, a knee specialist... Thats a good idea. Thanks bro. Hey good luck with your back too. I have only been out for 6 weeks. I couldnt imagine what you are going through.

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    If you have a ligament issue with your knee then prolotherapy is the way to go, works great

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    KWOZZA PM'd me this so I just wanted to post it for everyone to read. This guy seems to know his shiit. Thanks KWOZZA

    I have a strong feeling that the pain felt in your knee is being referred from a trigger point in your quad.

    The muscle in question is called the rectus femoris. Locating it is quite easy. Lie on the couch with your legs straight and raise the affected leg off of the couch. The muscle you feel contracting in your quad is the rectus femoris. The location of the trigger point is generally in the top half of the muscle, but I wouldn't be surprised to find multiple TP's right down the length of the muscle.

    Very slowly (I mean, VERY slowly) apply pressure to the top of this muscle and work your way down to your knee. Every inch or so, contract the muscle again just to make sure you are still on it. You could press on a spot that is 1/4 of an inch away from the TP yet still feel no pain so make sure you completely cover the whole muscle.

    When you find spot of tenderness, press firmly on it and it should radiate pain down to your knee. Apply a 30 second massage up to 5 times a day to the trigger points and you should feel immediate improvement.

    It's hard to make a diagnosis based on what you tell me on the internet, but should this be your problem, you will be doing legs again next week. Just make sure you do a proper warm up and thoroughly stretch the area prior to working out.

    Keep me updated.
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    Dobie,

    Did the PT mention the word chondromalacia at all by chance???

    Or did he say anything about having a positive Clarke's Test???
    Last edited by MuscleScience; 12-20-2008 at 10:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    Dobie,

    Did the PT mention the word chondromalacia at all by chance???

    Or did he say anything about having a positive Clarke's Test???
    No, he didnt mention either one. Why do you ask? should I ask him about it?
    He put his thumb right above my knee cap and pressed down in my patellar tendon then had me flex my quads (I was layin on my back) with my legs straight out. It caused alot of pain under my kneecap when I flexed my quad. He said this was a sign I had damage under the patella. He seemed to think it would heal up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dobie-BOY View Post
    No, he didnt mention either one. Why do you ask? should I ask him about it?
    He put his thumb right above my knee cap and pressed down in my patellar tendon then had me flex my quads (I was layin on my back) with my legs straight out. It caused alot of pain under my kneecap when I flexed my quad. He said this was a sign I had damage under the patella. He seemed to think it would heal up.

    That is a positive Clarke Test. That indicates that you have chondromalacia patellae. It can be easily managed with rest and ice in most cases. Basically chondromalacia is an overuse injury in young people. You can do a quick websearch and find a ton of info on the subject.



    On a side note I actually had it in both knees when I was playing ball in college. I had to reduce my activity and ice it daily and it cleared up in about a month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    That is a positive Clarke Test. That indicates that you have chondromalacia patellae. It can be easily managed with rest and ice in most cases. Basically chondromalacia is an overuse injury in young people. You can do a quick websearch and find a ton of info on the subject.



    On a side note I actually had it in both knees when I was playing ball in college. I had to reduce my activity and ice it daily and it cleared up in about a month.
    Ya, its getting better now. I have been doing no weight, high rep, shallow squats and leg press. I really happy that it is getting better. Thanks for your input. I have been iceing it occassionally, but it gets REAL stiff for a while after I do that so I havnt been doing it as much as I probably should. Im gonna look it up right now. Do you think it will be a problem that is likely to re-occure more frequently now that I have had a problem with it?

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