Pre-Cycle Advice

[juicedaddy]

I am about 5'9" and weigh in at about 180. I am looking to put on about 20-25 solid pounds. This will be my second cycle the first cycle I did was Deca/Sus/EQ/Winny and I gained about 15-20. I retained about 90% of the gains. I heard Fina is a great way to put on solid gains, I was going to use Deca again but heard not to use it with Fina. I will post updates as I start my cycle.

This is the cycle I plan to start in a week:
Week1- 75mg Fina EOD/200EQ/250Sus/20mg Dbol/Day/25mg Proviron/day
Week2- 75mg Fina EOD/200EQ/250Sus/25mg Dbol/Day/25mg Proviron/day
Week3- 75mg Fina EOD/200EQ/500Sus/25mg Dbol/Day/25mg Proviron/day
Week4- 75mg Fina EOD/200EQ/500Sus/25mg Dbol/Day/25mg Proviron/day
Week5- 75mg Fina EOD/200EQ/500Sus/25mg Dbol/Day/25mg Proviron/day
Week6- 75mg Fina EOD/200EQ/500Sus/20mg Dbol/Day/25mg Proviron/day
Week7- 75mg Fina EOD/200EQ/500Sus/25mg Proviron/day
Week8- 75mg Fina EOD/200EQ/500Sus/25mg Proviron/day
Week9- 200EQ/250Sus/25mg Proviron/day
Week10- 200EQ/250Sus
Week11- Clomid/HCG
Week12- Clomid/HCG

I plan on increasing my calorie intake by about 2000 calories per day and taking in about 300 grams of protein a day. Does anyone have any suggestions?

[pimpjuice]

Looks nice Juicedaddy, but the fina... isnt 75 mg too low?

How are you planning to run your PCT?

Good luck bro!

[juicedaddy]

the old usual dose was 30mg eod and as high as 60 mg eod for better strength gain, I think 75 should be enough eod. How much do you think I should take? Thanks for the feedback

[SaTyR]

I would do 75 / day or 150 EOD

[billy_ba]

I would totally change it around. Keep the fina ED also. I liked running it at the end of my cycle to rip me up. With eq, you need to up it to 400mg and at least run it for over 12 wks because it takes 8 to kick in. Also, keep the sus at 500mg wk, don't taper because it will make your blood levels inconsistant which will cause more sides. Run the dbol 1-4 at 25mg ed and dont taper that either. I did this same cycle but without dbol and with test e instead of sus. I only ran it 10 wks which wasnt enough to get the full eq effect. saw sick gains from fina and the arimidex really kept the bloat down. kept a lot of the gains with a good pct.

wk1-4 dbol 25mg ed
wk1-12 sus 500mg, inject every 3 days
wk1-12 EQ 400mg wk
wk6-12 Fina 75mg ED
nolva 20mg ed
ldex .25mg ed
Standard PCT
for meals go 3000 cal with mostly proteins and good carbs. I ate carbs only around work out times and tons of tuna.

hope this helps.

[pimpjuice]

I agree with everyone else here. You should double the amount of fina, instead of 75 EOD make it 75 ED.
Also check out the Post Cycle Therapy (PCT) that billy ba posted, if you dont have the Nolva use Clomid (you need Clomid to bring your test levels back to normal) since the HCG is only going to bring your balls to normal size.
Id start running clomid from week 9 and on week 11 back it up with the HCG.

Keep us posted how it turns out.
Peace

[juicedaddy]

Thanks for the feedback, I will up the fina to 75ed. Is it ok to shoot in the shoulders that frequently? Whats the max I should shoot in a shoulder, I have only gone as high as 1cc? Has anyone used QV75 I think its fairly new. I have had good experiences with their EQ and Deca, they seem to be clean and never short. I am going to up the eq to 400 and run it for 12 weeks, I was thinking about adding winny in at the end to cut up. I'll keep everyone posted on the results.

[billy_ba]

for injections, you have to change up your sites since you'll be injecting ed, I would go, left glute,left tri, left shoulder, right shoulder, right tri right glute...then repeat the rotation. This way you dont hit the same spot more than once a week. if you need help injecting, check spotinjections.com

[juicedaddy]

Thanks for the info, should i use a 1/2" or 1" 25 guage in the tri?

[billy_ba]

I use 1" but dont go all the way, only about 3/4 deep.

[juicedaddy]

I'm starting week 3 of my cycle, which I modified based on bill ba's recomendations. I have gained about 5-6lbs over the two weeks. Probably from the d's, strength has gone up considerably. I am at the weight I ended my last cycle at over the summer, since I lost about 6-7 lbs on my time off. Hopefully the sus will start to really kick in over the next couple of weeks. Thanks for all the advice I will post an update in a couple of weeks.