I Want to build mass and still be cut

[Duriel2526]

I did a cycle of TURANABOL only about 4 months ago. I packed on about 8lbs. I have always been cut and a former track and field athlete. I want to build mass and still be cut. I am 5ft 9, 192lbs, 29yrs old. Max on bench press 365lbs. What should I use to build mass and still be cut and what anti-estrogen to use. Don't want to use nothing that will mess me up

[The_Canibal]

use an AI like letro..it will keep waterbloat to a minimum....
your cycle must have test(i prefer TE)...and maybe a kickstarter like d-bol....

good luck

[brjrj0000]

if your worried about bloat and stayin lean i would say no to dbol but test e would be a good choice. Maybe with some EQ. I plan on usin masteron on my next cycle actually i hear good things

[Duriel2526]

I hate needles but I want to get big and I would go through with it. So D-bol and Test E what would the cycles be and with the anti-estrogen?

[The_Canibal]

being your first serious cycle ..i wouldn't use anything else....the key is in your diet ..keeep it clean...eq ia a good compound ..but itz way too early to incorporate in your cycles....

good luck

[The_Canibal]

if your worried about bloat and stayin lean i would say no to dbol but test e would be a good choice. Maybe with some EQ. I plan on usin masteron on my next cycle actually i hear good things

itz all in the diet ..if your diet is in check and maybe some cardio...you cand use any compounds to bulk or cut...letro will reduce estrogen by almost 90% ...thatz practically no estrogen ..so no sides related to them...like bloating...

good luck

[Growingpains]

looking good man! Work on that chest.

NO DBOL!

Winny, Test E, EQ, Anavar - All good!

[The_Canibal]

looking good man! Work on that chest.

NO DBOL!

Winny, Test E, EQ, Anavar - All good!

you all got something against d-bol???well i still like it....best kicksterter i guess besides prop

[Duriel2526]

I want to go with Test E, D-bol, letro, milk thistle and cranberry juice. What would the cycles be . I am 5ft 9, 192lbs

[king6]

What's so bad about dbol? Once you stop taking it the bloat goes away. And the test will lean you out.

[king6]

I'm gonna say

week 1-12 test e 500mg/week
week 1-4 dbol 30mg/ed
letro .25-.5mg/day or aromasin .5mg/day (letro might be overkill)

You could probably up the dbol to 40mg/day because your 192, but being this is your first cycle 30mg might do. Bump for opinions.

[The_Canibal]

I'm gonna say

week 1-12 test e 500mg/week
week 1-4 dbol 30mg/ed
letro .25-.5mg/day or aromasin .5mg/day (letro might be overkill)

You could probably up the dbol to 40mg/day because your 192, but being this is your first cycle 30mg might do. Bump for opinions.

thatz ok...i would add HCG at a low dose(500UI) at 3-4 day interval throughout the cycle(if so you should use nolva..to help maintain the leydig cells sensibility)

[Duriel2526]

Thanks guys

[kaylana]

since you are already lean tren will make you hard.with winny or EQ no dbol maybe some test prop

[briancb1]

Whats wrong with a little bloat?

[PROTEINSHAKE]

1-12 test E 500mg week
1-6or 8 TBOL 50mg ED.(not DBOL) why bloat if you dont have to? a-dex .25mg EOD

then proper pct.

[Hellmaskbanned]

I would go with ,

Test E or C weeks 1-10 500mgs
Winstrol weeks 1-6 50mgs/day ORAL, because you don't like injections.
Bloat should be minimum.
Good lean gains.

[BITTAPART2]

you have some real potential bro, delts look shredded up, work that chest heavy and I would go w/ hellmasks reccomendation w/ the winny. it has a high affinity for binding to the androgen receptors that will help burning fat and keeping you hard. good luck