Too Much for 1st Cycle??

[jamie9547]

23 yrs old, 5' 9 165lbs, been training for about 2 yrs now, lookin to put on mass and good strength gains. This is what I've thought of and researched for some time.

wks 1-10 Test Cyp 300 or 400mgs still deciding on that. Suggest?
wks 6-10 Fina 75mg/ml eod
wks 1-13 Arimidex .25mg eod
wk 11 Clomid 100mg ed
wks 12-13 Clomid 50mg ed

Is that too much clomid?? Should I run it wks 12-13 50mg eod?? Also was wondering if I should get some dbol for the beginning for like a kick start? Think thats too much

[NoLimits]

Is this your first cycle?

[jamie9547]

Yes this would be my first cycle.

[xxxl83]

you're starting your clomid too early,
Also I wouldn't recomend fina for a first cycle go with some EQ.
Adding d-bols too kick start wouldn't be a bad idea.

Search for a thread called "creating the perfect cycle for a newbie" read it there's alot of good info for you in there.


xxxl83

[NoLimits]

Most guys here will tell you not to run Fina for a first cycle. That's a lot of injections for a first time user. Try this... Go with the Test at 400/week, try to get some Deca, run it at the same. If you want, you can throw some dbol in at the beginning for the first four weeks. Then use the clomid at the end at 300/1st day, 100/day for 10 days, then 50/day for ten days. This sould give you the mass and strength gains you are looking for.

[trimunex]

I agree with xxx183, wait a little longer to start the Clomid.
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[Tapout]

agree with xxxl183 and no limits
test 400mg per week for 10 weeks
equipoise(or deca but less sides with eq and do the same thing)400mg per week for 10 weeks
dbol 25-35mgs per day first 4-5 weeks of cycle
arimidex as stated
clomid 3 weeks after last eq or deca injection at 300mg day 1 then i usually do 100mgs days 2-7 then 50mgs days 8-14
fina is great for strength but has lots of sides simular to deca but also causes bad acne-- i would not do it for a first cycle
the cycle outlined would work great with minimal sides

[goldstone_77]

Here is a good first cycle that will leave you happy!
Split up d-bal 3 times a day breakfast, lunch, and dinner. At least 2 times a day. Start clomid the day after your last winstrol tab. I would suggest arimidex .25mg a day, and run it through clomid.
wks---d-bal---testcyp.---winstrol---clomid
-1-----30mg---400mg--------------------
-2-----30mg---400mg--------------------
-3-----30mg---400mg--------------------
-4-----30mg---400mg--------------------
-5-----30mg---400mg--------------------
-6-----30mg---400mg--------------------
-7-------------400mg-----50mg/ed-------
-8-------------400mg-----50mg/ed-------
-9-------------400mg-----50mg/ed-------
-10------------400mg-----50mg/ed-------
-11-----------------------50mg/ed-------
-12-----------------------50mg/ed-------
-13---------------------------------50mg/ed
-14---------------------------------50mg/ed
-15---------------------------------50mg/ed

[Tapout]

goldstones cycle looks good but clomid should be run 300mg day 1 then 100mgs days 2-7 then 50mgs days 8-14